My pet peeve with Linus

[Rocketdog2112]

My pet peeve with Linus?.... assembling a motherboard on surfaces such as the empty box the MB came which allows the motherboard to flex downward. Watching him shove in ram in as the MB bows like boomerang makes my skin crawl. Broken or cracked solder joints anyone? Stressed tracer paths? Come on Linus, pay attention to the details!

 

https://j.gifs.com/p83DAm.mp4

 

[Tristerin]

I remember the first time I gingerly, with great care put my first PC together.  And CRINGED while I watched my brother teach me as he handled my new components!  

 

Fast forward to today - its going to be okay @Rocketdog2112 Linus only breaks things upon dropping them.  And I have quite the number of builds under my belt and do the moonwalk in wool socks on carpet (nekkid, picture it) while handling components.  They are not as...made of glass as you believe

[kelvinhall05]

nobody tell him about the pcb in a model f

[Morrie Sells Wigs]

Well, when you can afford to replace any item or just ask the company for another one you aren't going to be as careful as someone who has saved for months and can't afford a replacement. 

 

 

[Fasauceome]

motherboards are designed to flex. have you seen the deviation caused by good CPU cooler mounting?

[Mateyyy]

10 minutes ago, Rocketdog2112 said:

assembling a motherboard on surfaces such as the empty box the MB came which allows the motherboard to flex downward

From my experience, it flexes just as much as it would when installed in a bog standard case which has got a slim sheet of steel behind the board itself.

I've always done it the same way on the motherboard's box and have had zero issues. PCBs are made out of fibreglass and copper, they're not that fragile and are designed to withstand a certain amount of flexing without any problems.

[Grabhanem]

8 minutes ago, Tristerin said:

They are not as...made of glass as you believe

ok who's going to tell him...

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FR-4

[Tristerin]

1 minute ago, Grabhanem said:

ok who's going to tell him...

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FR-4

I chose the incorrect description for fragility, shame that

[Bad5ector]

Lol, that is the defacto way to install a cpu / ram / hsf for as long as I can remember. You kids today and your GN mod mats. sheesh.

[LogicalDrm]

... You see the box flex, not mobo. You can test this yourself. Box is cardboard, and thinner than PCB.

[Rocketdog2112]

3 hours ago, LogicalDrm said:

... You see the box flex, not mobo. You can test this yourself. Box is cardboard, and thinner than PCB.

There is obvious flex occuring in the MB, and I've seen worse on his other videos. But why take the chance?

[Lord Vile]

1 minute ago, Rocketdog2112 said:

There is obvious flex occuring in the MB, and I've seen worse on his other videos. But why take the chance?

It's a motherboard not a 2000 year old vase. a bit of flexing is fine.

[LogicalDrm]

1 hour ago, Rocketdog2112 said:

There is obvious flex occuring in the MB, and I've seen worse on his other videos. But why take the chance?

Not obvious from that clip. I see box flexing only. Mobos aren't so weak that pressing RAM down would cause such flex.

[BlueChinchillaEatingDorito]

I guess we should go further and say why isn't he wearing gloves? The oils from your figures being transferred to the PCB, oh the humanity. And what's even worse? He's not even wearing an anti static wrist strap. 

[dizmo]

He's built many, many many times more computers than probably anyone on this forum.

So. I'm pretty sure he knows what he's doing, and I'm pretty sure it's not a problem

It's not made of thin glass.

[divito]

Given the material, most PC parts have flex tolerances. It's when you keep exerting force on parts while installing where issues occur.

And if you truly think about it, installing it on a hard service gives less forgiveness should you apply too much and end up snapping something. The box is a good buffer to ensure you're not doing it too hard. If you deform the box quite a bit, that's a good indication there's too much pressure, and it will deform far before you snap something, which is better.

 

But to add, when I first built a PC, I was so afraid to push down on the CPU cooler when installing and thought it was abnormal to apply as much pressure as I did. Same with countless other components. That's just the nature of seating though and how the connections work.

[SpookyCitrus]

I've built anywhere between 150 and 200 Desktop PCs, gaming, office, workstation, server racks you name it. I work for a PC and Mac sales and service center and have been building and repairing computers for the last 8 years as both a hobby and professionally. I and everyone I know also install everything on the motherboard box, and have never had a single problem. They are not as fragile as you seem to think they are, they have flex tolerances and putting medium to firm pressure on the the board to install the ram isn't going to cause enough flex to damage or stress any of the components, motherboard boxes are firm enough not to worry about it. In order for any damage to occur to the board you'd have to really bend and flex the board much worse than you get when installing other components on top of the box. It may be your lack of experience or your perceived notion of the tolerances of the parts that cause you to cringe when you see it but any experienced builder knows that it's not a even a slight issue to do it that way.