Intel may have 6nm GPUs before 7nm CPUs.

[Helpful Tech Witch]

Summary

 According to a rumor by IThome (https://www.ithome.com/0/503/755.), the Intel Xe-HPG GPUs may be made on the TSMC 6nm process, which has 18% more logic density than the TSMC 7nm process. This may boost it a bit to compete with the upcoming AMD RDNA2 and NVIDIA Ampere GPUs, as both AMD and NVIDIA will be using some variation of the TSMC 7nm process.

 

Quotes

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(from google auto translate on ithome.com)

Last month, foreign media reported that TSMC had obtained Intel 6nm chip foundry orders.

Last month, Intel announced that the progress of its 7nm chip process has been delayed

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Having smaller transistors with the 6nm process, means Intel could make more power-efficient graphics cards that can perform better without producing too much heat. The denser the chips, the better performing they could be as well – and it could also mean it’s cheaper for Intel to produce lots of them – and faster as well.

My thoughts

Well, this is.... Ironic. Imagine having mostly/all 14nm CPUs when using 6nm GPUs. Otherwise, if this is true, Intel would have a good market in the lower power consumption GPU market, as this could mean better efficiency. Go Intel?

 

Sources

https://www.ithome.com/0/503/755.htm

https://www.techradar.com/uk/news/intel-xe-hpg-gaming-graphics-card-could-beat-nvidia-and-amds-best-in-one-key-area

[Taf the Ghost]

Intel 7nm is in the same class as TSMC 5nm, but... yay marketing things.

[Mateyyy]

Them being on 6nm TSMC doesn't necessarily mean more power efficiency compared to 7nm TSMC though. I mean, look at Navi (7nm TSMC) and Turing (12nm TSMC).

[Helpful Tech Witch]

Just now, Mateyyy said:

Them being on 6nm TSMC doesn't necessarily mean more power efficiency compared to 7nm TSMC though. I mean, look at Navi (7nm TSMC) and Turing (12nm TSMC).

True.

Wait. When did you change your profile pic back?

[Haro]

I mean 6nm is cool and all but that doesn't mean a whole lot when it comes to efficiency. 

Heck AMD (at least for Polaris and Navi) are on a smaller die size yet aren't really that efficient in comparison to Pascal and Turing..

 

1 minute ago, TheTechWizardThatNeedsHelp said:

. When did you change your profile pic back?

He changed it a couple of days ago iirc..

Edited August 18, 2020 by TofuHaroto

[porina]

TSMC 6nm is supposed to be a refinement of their 7nm process, but of course not the bigger jump to the 5nm node. There may be different optimisation choices but at a high level I think we can assume it is a bit better than TSMC 7nm overall.

[Helpful Tech Witch]

1 minute ago, TofuHaroto said:

I mean 6nm is cool and all but that doesn't mean a whole lot when it comes to efficiency. 

Heck AMD (at least for Polaris and Navi) are on a smaller die size yet aren't really that efficient in comparison to Pascal and Turing..

It was mentioned in the article that it would increase efficiency, and it makes sense.

[Haro]

6 minutes ago, TheTechWizardThatNeedsHelp said:

and it makes sense.

Of course it will. 

We just don't know how it's going to compare to Navi and Turing/ampere when ever that comes out. 

[Helpful Tech Witch]

Just now, TofuHaroto said:

Of course it will. 

We just don't know how it's going to compare to Navi and Turing/ampere when ever that comes out. 

We also don't know if this is real, but we will find out.

[Neftex]

57 minutes ago, Taf the Ghost said:

Intel 7nm is in the same class as TSMC 5nm, but... yay marketing things.

intels 7nm doesnt exist so idk what youre comparing

[RejZoR]

I don't care. Just bring us the Xe! I want good old GPU battles with more than just 2 players. I miss those exciting times, especially since everyone was innovating like crazy and pushing new things that ultimately ended up as tech used by everyone at some point.

[X-System]

30 minutes ago, RejZoR said:

I miss those exciting times, especially since everyone was innovating like crazy and pushing new things that ultimately ended up as tech used by everyone at some point.

Yes, I remember in 90's : nVIDIA vs ATI vs 3Dfx vs Matrox vs S3 vs Rendition vs PowerVR

[RejZoR]

31 minutes ago, X-System said:

Yes, I remember in 90's : nVIDIA vs ATI vs 3Dfx vs Matrox vs S3 vs Rendition vs PowerVR

Even when it was just NVIDIA, ATI and 3dfx most of the time, it was fun times. And more releases of graphic cards and more tests and reviews. Where now we only had 2 launches if lucky. And even those were out of sync which sucks so you have to wait for half a year to see what is like from competition. Where in the past they sort of launched products almost together and everyone made big comparisons. It was proper competition. I miss that.