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I HAVE 2 OPTIONS adata AX4U413338G19-DT60 or gskill tridenz neo 3600 cl 16-16-16-36 which would be better in terms of  for futureproofing I mean over clocking 3600 cl 16 or already 4133 MHz cl19 ram.Thanks

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I would go for the Gskill

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5 minutes ago, sarggames said:

I HAVE 2 OPTIONS adata AX4U413338G19-DT60 or gskill tridenz neo 3600 cl 16-16-16-36 which would be better in terms of  for futureproofing I mean over clocking 3600 cl 16 or already 4133 MHz cl19 ram.Thanks

Go with G-Skill

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On paper the 4133MHz 19-19-19 bin of the Adata kit (not to be mixed in with the AX4U413338G19J-DT60) is better than Gskill's 3600MHz 16-16-16. Also Adata doesnt sell any DDR4 kit rated better, so it's more likely that you'll get the best B-die there is from Adata than Gskill (which has a lot of better bins that the better dies will be sorted out for).

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5 hours ago, Constantin said:

I would go for the Gskill

could you explain

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5 hours ago, Spoiled_Kitten said:

Go with G-Skill

explain pls

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1 minute ago, sarggames said:

on paper which is better 4133 cl 19 -19-19 at 1.4 v or 3600 cl 16-16-16 at 1.35 v .I mean if we run both at same volts and speed which will have lower latency.or which would give higher speed at same voltage same latency .PLEASE TRY TO UNDERSTAND MY QUESTION I FAIL TO PUT IT WORDS BETTER.

 

Note this question is different than my last question here I talked about specific  thing

As I have recently heard you can kind of estimate the latency by dividing the frequency by the timing (at least the first number of it). Higher = better.

4133 / 19 = 218

3600 / 16 = 225

 

So 3600Mhz at CL16 would be a tiny bit faster, but it won't be a huge difference.

GamersNexus had 4000Mhz@CL19 and 3600Mhz@CL16 in their test and 3600Mhz@CL16 was a bit faster (Ryzen 3000 test):

https://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/3508-ryzen-3000-memory-benchmark-best-ram-fclk-uclock-mclock

 

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4 minutes ago, sarggames said:

on paper which is better 4133 cl 19 -19-19 at 1.4 v or 3600 cl 16-16-16 at 1.35 v .I mean if we run both at same volts and speed which will have lower latency.or which would give higher speed at same voltage same latency .PLEASE TRY TO UNDERSTAND MY QUESTION I FAIL TO PUT IT WORDS BETTER.

 

Note this question is different than my last question here I talked about specific  thing

3600Mhz at CL16 = 8.88 nanoseconds latency 

4133Mhz at CL19 = 9.19 nanoseconds latency

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1 minute ago, ObsidianAura said:

3600Mhz at CL16 = 8.88 nanoseconds latency 

4133Mhz at CL19 = 9.19 nanoseconds latency

How do you calculate those latencies, out of curiosity?

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3 minutes ago, minibois said:

As I have recently heard you can kind of estimate the latency by dividing the frequency by the timing (at least the first number of it). Higher = better.

4133 / 19 = 218

3600 / 16 = 225

 

So 3600Mhz at CL16 would be a tiny bit faster, but it won't be a huge difference.

GamersNexus had 4000Mhz@CL19 and 3600Mhz@CL16 in their test and 3600Mhz@CL16 was a bit faster (Ryzen 3000 test):

https://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/3508-ryzen-3000-memory-benchmark-best-ram-fclk-uclock-mclock

 

 

3 minutes ago, ObsidianAura said:

3600Mhz at CL16 = 8.88 nanoseconds latency 

4133Mhz at CL19 = 9.19 nanoseconds latency

 

2 minutes ago, aDoomGuy said:

I think that 3600 cl 16 is better too.

 

4 minutes ago, boggy77 said:

3600c16

voltages are different too so that matters or not?

I mean suppose I overclock 3600 cl 16 at 1.4 4133 will I get lower latency

 

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12 minutes ago, minibois said:

As I have recently heard you can kind of estimate the latency by dividing the frequency by the timing (at least the first number of it). Higher = better.

4133 / 19 = 218

3600 / 16 = 225

 

So 3600Mhz at CL16 would be a tiny bit faster, but it won't be a huge difference.

GamersNexus had 4000Mhz@CL19 and 3600Mhz@CL16 in their test and 3600Mhz@CL16 was a bit faster (Ryzen 3000 test):

https://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/3508-ryzen-3000-memory-benchmark-best-ram-fclk-uclock-mclock

 

4133 cl 19 I am talking about not 4000

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3 minutes ago, sarggames said:

4133 cl 19 I am talking about not 4000

I know you're taking about 4133, as you would have been able to see by the second third sentence in my post, referencing the 4133.

It's just that 4000Mhz was the closest speed in that benchmark. But that does at least show the minimal difference between the two (3600@CL16 vs. 4000Mhz@CL19). The difference would even be smaller when you have a higher speed (4133Mhz instead of 4000Mhz).

12 minutes ago, sarggames said:

voltages are different too so that matters or not?

I mean suppose I overclock 3600 cl 16 at 1.4 4133 will I get lower latency

Doesn't matter a ton, but 1.35V is kind of the standard for RAM voltage from what I have seen

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17 minutes ago, minibois said:

How do you calculate those latencies, out of curiosity?

16/(3600/2)=8.88

19/(4133/2)=9.19

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1 minute ago, minibois said:

I know you're taking about 4133, as you would have been able to see by the second third sentence in my post, referencing the 4133.

It's just that 4000Mhz was the closest speed in that benchmark. But that does at least show the minimal difference between the two (3600@CL16 vs. 4000Mhz@CL19). The difference would even be smaller when you have a higher speed (4133Mhz instead of 4000Mhz).

Doesn't matter a ton, but 1.35V is kind of the standard for RAM voltage from what I have seen

so u sure 4133 cl 19 1.4 v is not better than 3600 cl16 1.35v

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3 minutes ago, sarggames said:

so u sure 4133 cl 19 1.4 v is not better than 3600 cl16 1.35v

 

25 minutes ago, minibois said:

As I have recently heard you can kind of estimate the latency by dividing the frequency by the timing (at least the first number of it). Higher = better.

4133 / 19 = 218

3600 / 16 = 225

 

So 3600Mhz at CL16 would be a tiny bit faster, but it won't be a huge difference.

GamersNexus had 4000Mhz@CL19 and 3600Mhz@CL16 in their test and 3600Mhz@CL16 was a bit faster (Ryzen 3000 test):

https://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/3508-ryzen-3000-memory-benchmark-best-ram-fclk-uclock-mclock

 

 

27 minutes ago, boggy77 said:

3600c16

 

25 minutes ago, ObsidianAura said:

3600Mhz at CL16 = 8.88 nanoseconds latency 

4133Mhz at CL19 = 9.19 nanoseconds latency

can increasing voltage increase difference in latencies

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5 minutes ago, sarggames said:

 

 

 

can increasing voltage increase difference in latencies

i think you're stressing too much over very little difference. the difference in real performance between those two kits will be 1% or something like that.

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17 hours ago, sarggames said:

explain pls

Personally i have found them to be the best.

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