Posted December 4, 2019 I'm doing a project for my college Statistics where I have to gather the statistics on something of my choosing and then interpret those statistics in a series of mathematical calculations. I would appreciate it if you took a second to vote for me and feel free to reply with why you prefer one or the other. I'd be personally interested in hearing everyone's thoughts. Link to comment https://linustechtips.com/topic/1130943-which-cpu-do-you-prefer-for-your-computer/ Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 4, 2019 Right now, for the value proposition I prefer AMD. Sure I might lose a few frames in a couple games but overall at the quality and detail levels I play at it doesn't matter. Current Network Layout: Current Build Log/PC: Storage Server Setup: Prior Build Log/PC: Link to comment https://linustechtips.com/topic/1130943-which-cpu-do-you-prefer-for-your-computer/#findComment-13100878 Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 4, 2019 This won't give good statistics, since it's extremely bad as a consumer to simply pick one brand over another. You pick the right option for your situation. For me that tends to be AMD and I have to admit I may be a fan of them... But it's not always the best option. "We're all in this together, might as well be friends" Tom, Toonami. mini eLiXiVy: my open source 65% mechanical PCB, a build log, PCB anatomy and discussing open source licenses: https://linustechtips.com/topic/1366493-elixivy-a-65-mechanical-keyboard-build-log-pcb-anatomy-and-how-i-open-sourced-this-project/ mini_cardboard: a 4% keyboard build log and how keyboards work: https://linustechtips.com/topic/1328547-mini_cardboard-a-4-keyboard-build-log-and-how-keyboards-work/ Link to comment https://linustechtips.com/topic/1130943-which-cpu-do-you-prefer-for-your-computer/#findComment-13100882 Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 4, 2019 Author 3 minutes ago, minibois said: This won't give good statistics, since it's extremely bad as a consumer to simply pick one brand over another. You pick the right option for your situation. For me that tends to be AMD and I have to admit I may be a fan of them... But it's not always the best option. I do agree with this. For this project specifically, I think it's alright since many have a favored brand based on their specific needs and while they're needs that are subject to change, this data is for the here and now rather than the all time. Link to comment https://linustechtips.com/topic/1130943-which-cpu-do-you-prefer-for-your-computer/#findComment-13100892 Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 4, 2019 Personally I prefer Intel for my builds because it performs better for my individual use-case (although Ryzen is a great value). The Potato Box: AMD 5950X EVGA K|NGP|N 3090 128GB 3600 CL16 RAM The Scrapyard Warrior: AMD 3950x EVGA FTW3 2080Ti 64GB 3200 CL16 RAM Link to comment https://linustechtips.com/topic/1130943-which-cpu-do-you-prefer-for-your-computer/#findComment-13100894 Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 4, 2019 Author Just now, Amaranth said: Personally I prefer Intel for my builds because it performs better for my individual use-case (although Ryzen is a great value). I really like Intel and I recently switched to Ryzen and I have to say I couldn't be happier. AMD has made a lot of progress and even if they're not the best, they're still a great option for many. I only wish there was a wider selection of micro ATX gaming motherboards for B450 Link to comment https://linustechtips.com/topic/1130943-which-cpu-do-you-prefer-for-your-computer/#findComment-13100899 Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 4, 2019 There are couple reason why id choose AMD over Intel. -AMD better value for 8 core processors. My r7 3700x is almost as good as i9 9900k in multitasking and over 150bucks cheaper. Yeah it loses 10frames in games but i do not mind. -Intel has done some bad choices. First the 10th gen extreme processors 6 hours before amd threaripper third gen. Thrid gen threadrippe absolutely crushed them, but this time thay use more power and got more hot. - Third gen ryzen has pci e 4.0 support for future gpu upgrades and better m.2 ssd's. - Thrid gen ryzen has more pci e lanes. But in laptops its a whole different story. AMD processors at leat ryzen processors are not that good in gaming laptops compared to intel. But in laptop wihtout dedicated gpu, amd processors shine, since thay have a "decent" igpu. I Use my knowledge as business owner and self taught technician aswell as an AI to help people. AI might be controversial but it actually works pretty well 90% of the time. Link to comment https://linustechtips.com/topic/1130943-which-cpu-do-you-prefer-for-your-computer/#findComment-13100905 Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 4, 2019 Author 2 minutes ago, SavageNeo said: There are couple reason why id choose AMD over Intel. -AMD better value for 8 core processors. My r7 3700x is almost as good as i9 9900k in multitasking and over 150bucks cheaper. Yeah it loses 10frames in games but i do not mind. -Intel has done some bad choices. First the 10th gen extreme processors 6 hours before amd threaripper third gen. Thrid gen threadrippe absolutely crushed them, but this time thay use more power and got more hot. - Third gen ryzen has pci e 4.0 support for future gpu upgrades and better m.2 ssd's. - Thrid gen ryzen has more pci e lanes. But in laptops its a whole different story. AMD processors at leat ryzen processors are not that good in gaming laptops compared to intel. But in laptop wihtout dedicated gpu, amd processors shine, since thay have a "decent" igpu. Yeah I agree with you. It's crazy to think that the Ryzen 7 (mine is a 2700X) performs significantly better than the Core i7 5960X which used to be I think close to $1k when it was current, and I paid way less. Like obviously the 5960X is outdated now, but back then it was a HUGE deal and now it's fallen way behind. I've never had a Ryzen laptop, but honestly, I think with their new processors being so heat efficient compared to their old ones, it'd be a great option for a laptop. Before if you got an AMD laptop, you could just expect that it'd always be running it's fans on max because of how hot the chip got. Link to comment https://linustechtips.com/topic/1130943-which-cpu-do-you-prefer-for-your-computer/#findComment-13100912 Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 4, 2019 AMD for me: - Better bang for buck performance - Great for content creators and streamers - Very good performance in games (Intel still better for that but only by a few frames) - AMD is better with upgradability. You don't need to upgrade motherboard, just BIO's if you were to get the next model (For now) Link to comment https://linustechtips.com/topic/1130943-which-cpu-do-you-prefer-for-your-computer/#findComment-13100928 Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 4, 2019 18 minutes ago, minibois said: This won't give good statistics, since it's extremely bad as a consumer to simply pick one brand over another. You pick the right option for your situation. For me that tends to be AMD and I have to admit I may be a fan of them... But it's not always the best option. I agree, as personally I don't believe my main system will ever have an amd processor but my secondary (portable) system probably will I'm not really a fan boy, it's more my first build was an Intel and it's kinda a nostalgic thing now that my system is an Intel based system. (First system ended up being a i5 4670, started with a Pentium which I have (the cpu) in my room at the moment) Link to comment https://linustechtips.com/topic/1130943-which-cpu-do-you-prefer-for-your-computer/#findComment-13100930 Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 4, 2019 Technically my motherboard socket dictates the CPU I use. I choose you AMD! *throws pokeball* Workstation Laptop: Dell Precision 7540, Xeon E-2276M, 32gb DDR4, Quadro T2000 GPU, 4k display Wifes Rig: ASRock B550m Riptide, Ryzen 5 5600X, Sapphire Nitro+ RX 6700 XT, 16gb (2x8) 3600mhz V-Color Skywalker RAM, ARESGAME AGS 850w PSU, 1tb WD Black SN750, 500gb Crucial m.2, DIYPC MA01-G case My Rig: ASRock B450m Pro4, Ryzen 5 3600, ARESGAME River 5 CPU cooler, EVGA RTX 2060 KO, 16gb (2x8) 3600mhz TeamGroup T-Force RAM, ARESGAME AGV750w PSU, 1tb WD Black SN750 NVMe Win 10 boot drive, 3tb Hitachi 7200 RPM HDD, Fractal Design Focus G Mini custom painted. NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 video card benchmark result - AMD Ryzen 5 3600,ASRock B450M Pro4 (3dmark.com) Daughter 1 Rig: ASrock B450 Pro4, Ryzen 7 1700 @ 4.2ghz all core 1.4vCore, AMD R9 Fury X w/ Swiftech KOMODO waterblock, Custom Loop 2x240mm + 1x120mm radiators in push/pull 16gb (2x8) Patriot Viper CL14 2666mhz RAM, Corsair HX850 PSU, 250gb Samsun 960 EVO NVMe Win 10 boot drive, 500gb Samsung 840 EVO SSD, 512GB TeamGroup MP30 M.2 SATA III SSD, SuperTalent 512gb SATA III SSD, CoolerMaster HAF XM Case. https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/37004594? Daughter 2 Rig: ASUS B350-PRIME ATX, Ryzen 7 1700, Sapphire Nitro+ R9 Fury Tri-X, 16gb (2x8) 3200mhz V-Color Skywalker, ANTEC Earthwatts 750w PSU, MasterLiquid Lite 120 AIO cooler in Push/Pull config as rear exhaust, 250gb Samsung 850 Evo SSD, Patriot Burst 240gb SSD, Cougar MX330-X Case Link to comment https://linustechtips.com/topic/1130943-which-cpu-do-you-prefer-for-your-computer/#findComment-13100961 Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 4, 2019 Intel because I an not upgrading my motherboard, and I am just used to Intel and how to install them. Link to comment https://linustechtips.com/topic/1130943-which-cpu-do-you-prefer-for-your-computer/#findComment-13100979 Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 4, 2019 AMD, I usually stick to cheaper or used stuff and AMD is a clear value advantage and not removing overclocking capabilities for no reason... why no dark mode? Current: Watercooled Eluktronics THICC-17 (Clevo X170SM-G): - CPU: i9-10900k @ 4.9GHz all core - GPU: RTX 2080 Super (Max P 200W) - RAM: 32GB (4x8GB) @ 3200MTs - Storage: 1TB WD Blue NVMe SSD - Displays: Internal 1080p@300Hz, Asus ROG XG-17 1080p@240Hz (G-Sync), Gigabyte M32U 4k@144Hz (G-Sync), External Laptop panel (LTN173HT02) 1080p@120Hz Asus ROG Flow Z13 (GZ301ZE): - CPU: i9-12900H @ Up to 5.0GHz all core - dGPU: RTX 3050 Ti 4GB - eGPU: Radeon 6850m XT XGm 16GB - RAM: 16GB (8x2GB) @ 5200MTs - Storage: 1TB NVMe SSD, 1TB MicroSD - Display: Internal 1200p@120Hz Minisforum MS-A2: - CPU: Ryzen 9 9955HX - RAM: 63GB (2x32GB) DDR5 @ 5600MTs - Storage: 2x 1TB Various NVMe SSD in RAID 1, 4x 10TB HGST Enterprise HDD in RAID Z1 Link to comment https://linustechtips.com/topic/1130943-which-cpu-do-you-prefer-for-your-computer/#findComment-13101013 Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 4, 2019 35 minutes ago, loganrp said: Yeah I agree with you. It's crazy to think that the Ryzen 7 (mine is a 2700X) performs significantly better than the Core i7 5960X which used to be I think close to $1k when it was current, and I paid way less. Like obviously the 5960X is outdated now, but back then it was a HUGE deal and now it's fallen way behind. I've never had a Ryzen laptop, but honestly, I think with their new processors being so heat efficient compared to their old ones, it'd be a great option for a laptop. Before if you got an AMD laptop, you could just expect that it'd always be running it's fans on max because of how hot the chip got. The 2700X is still slightly behind the i7 5960X unless you start applying a mild+ OC just an FYI - been trying to keep my R7 1700 with an aggressive OC just barely keeping up with the i7 5960X in benchmarks ( @Zando Bob just put a dope 5960X system together and is sharing benches etc) Workstation Laptop: Dell Precision 7540, Xeon E-2276M, 32gb DDR4, Quadro T2000 GPU, 4k display Wifes Rig: ASRock B550m Riptide, Ryzen 5 5600X, Sapphire Nitro+ RX 6700 XT, 16gb (2x8) 3600mhz V-Color Skywalker RAM, ARESGAME AGS 850w PSU, 1tb WD Black SN750, 500gb Crucial m.2, DIYPC MA01-G case My Rig: ASRock B450m Pro4, Ryzen 5 3600, ARESGAME River 5 CPU cooler, EVGA RTX 2060 KO, 16gb (2x8) 3600mhz TeamGroup T-Force RAM, ARESGAME AGV750w PSU, 1tb WD Black SN750 NVMe Win 10 boot drive, 3tb Hitachi 7200 RPM HDD, Fractal Design Focus G Mini custom painted. NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 video card benchmark result - AMD Ryzen 5 3600,ASRock B450M Pro4 (3dmark.com) Daughter 1 Rig: ASrock B450 Pro4, Ryzen 7 1700 @ 4.2ghz all core 1.4vCore, AMD R9 Fury X w/ Swiftech KOMODO waterblock, Custom Loop 2x240mm + 1x120mm radiators in push/pull 16gb (2x8) Patriot Viper CL14 2666mhz RAM, Corsair HX850 PSU, 250gb Samsun 960 EVO NVMe Win 10 boot drive, 500gb Samsung 840 EVO SSD, 512GB TeamGroup MP30 M.2 SATA III SSD, SuperTalent 512gb SATA III SSD, CoolerMaster HAF XM Case. https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/37004594? Daughter 2 Rig: ASUS B350-PRIME ATX, Ryzen 7 1700, Sapphire Nitro+ R9 Fury Tri-X, 16gb (2x8) 3200mhz V-Color Skywalker, ANTEC Earthwatts 750w PSU, MasterLiquid Lite 120 AIO cooler in Push/Pull config as rear exhaust, 250gb Samsung 850 Evo SSD, Patriot Burst 240gb SSD, Cougar MX330-X Case Link to comment https://linustechtips.com/topic/1130943-which-cpu-do-you-prefer-for-your-computer/#findComment-13101014 Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 4, 2019 My heart tells me Intel, but my bank tells me AMD. Intel Core i7 9700F / Cooler Master 212 Evo / GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER / 16 GB G.SKILL RAM @ 2666MHz / GA-B365M-DS3H / EVGA 500w PSU HP Pavilion Gaming 15 / Ryzen 5 4600H / GeForce GTX 1050 / 8 GB @ 3200MHz Link to comment https://linustechtips.com/topic/1130943-which-cpu-do-you-prefer-for-your-computer/#findComment-13101099 Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 4, 2019 Author 3 hours ago, Tristerin said: The 2700X is still slightly behind the i7 5960X unless you start applying a mild+ OC just an FYI - been trying to keep my R7 1700 with an aggressive OC just barely keeping up with the i7 5960X in benchmarks ( @Zando Bob just put a dope 5960X system together and is sharing benches etc) This obviously isn't the most accurate or telling benchmark, but on paper, the single threaded performance is better resulting in a significantly higher multi-threaded performance score. I'm sure this varies depending on the use case and how the application utilizes the aspects of each processor. Link to comment https://linustechtips.com/topic/1130943-which-cpu-do-you-prefer-for-your-computer/#findComment-13101467 Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 4, 2019 I don't recommend one over the other arbitrarily, but rather based on what people prioritize. It seems in general most people wanting to build a PC for playing games fall into the mid-to-low range of parts that they either can afford or are willing to pay for, so historically I'd recommend either a mid-range Intel core i5 CPU or higher end AMD since performance was roughly comparable and price would usually be on point as well. However, given this years leaps by AMD - at the moment I recommend them for most scenarios even where budget isn't a huge factor because there is a point where even if Intel might offer 15% greater performance in one scenario... if the cost is 2x an AMD part, even I have a hard time justifying that. That all being said, my current main rig is Intel based and although I'm sure the 3970x Threadripper could best it in some scenarios... the cost of swapping platforms and cpus for what would ultimately not amount to much difference isn't worth it to me for now. I am wanting to build a new gaming-only rig as soon as parts can be found for non-gouged prices, but that will likely also be Intel since the 9900ks is still a bit ahead of AMD's best offering, and MSRP-wise not even as expensive (assuming either can even be found...). TLDR; while my current use cases favor Intel, I am generally recommending AMD to *most* users. HEDT: i9 10980XE @ 4.9 gHz, 64GB @ 3600mHz CL14 G.Skill Trident-Z DDR4, 2x Nvidia Titan RTX NVLink SLI, Corsair AX1600i, Samsung 960 Pro 2TB OS/apps, Samsung 850 EVO 4TB media, LG 38GL950G-B monitor, Drop CTRL keyboard, Decus Respec mouse Laptop: Razer Blade Pro 2019 9750H model, 32GB @ 3200mHz CL18 G.Skill Ripjaws DDR4, 2x Samsung 960 Pro 1TB RAID0, repasted with Thermal Grizzly KryonautGaming Rig: i9 9900ks @ 5.2ghz, 32GB @ 4000mHz CL17 G.Skill Trident-Z DDR4, EVGA RTX 2080 Ti Kingpin, Corsair HX1200, Samsung 970 EVO Plus 2TB, Asus PG348Q monitor, Corsair K70 LUX RGB keyboard, Corsair Ironclaw mouseHTPC: i7 7700 (delidded + LM), 16GB @ 2666mHz CL15 Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4, MSI Geforce GTX 1070 Gaming X, Corsair SFX 600, Samsung 850 Pro 512gb, Samsung Q55R TV, Filco Majestouch Convertible 2 TKL keyboard, Logitech G403 wireless mouse Link to comment https://linustechtips.com/topic/1130943-which-cpu-do-you-prefer-for-your-computer/#findComment-13101512 Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 4, 2019 I prefer the CPU that meets my requirements or whatever else I want. I have a blog! And a list of guides I've posted Link to comment https://linustechtips.com/topic/1130943-which-cpu-do-you-prefer-for-your-computer/#findComment-13101514 Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 4, 2019 8 minutes ago, loganrp said: This obviously isn't the most accurate or telling benchmark, but on paper, the single threaded performance is better resulting in a significantly higher multi-threaded performance score. I'm sure this varies depending on the use case and how the application utilizes the aspects of each processor. Eh, that's like the pirates code - a very loose set of guidelines. Real benchmark vs benchmark situations (my setup vs his) is what Im talking about Workstation Laptop: Dell Precision 7540, Xeon E-2276M, 32gb DDR4, Quadro T2000 GPU, 4k display Wifes Rig: ASRock B550m Riptide, Ryzen 5 5600X, Sapphire Nitro+ RX 6700 XT, 16gb (2x8) 3600mhz V-Color Skywalker RAM, ARESGAME AGS 850w PSU, 1tb WD Black SN750, 500gb Crucial m.2, DIYPC MA01-G case My Rig: ASRock B450m Pro4, Ryzen 5 3600, ARESGAME River 5 CPU cooler, EVGA RTX 2060 KO, 16gb (2x8) 3600mhz TeamGroup T-Force RAM, ARESGAME AGV750w PSU, 1tb WD Black SN750 NVMe Win 10 boot drive, 3tb Hitachi 7200 RPM HDD, Fractal Design Focus G Mini custom painted. NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 video card benchmark result - AMD Ryzen 5 3600,ASRock B450M Pro4 (3dmark.com) Daughter 1 Rig: ASrock B450 Pro4, Ryzen 7 1700 @ 4.2ghz all core 1.4vCore, AMD R9 Fury X w/ Swiftech KOMODO waterblock, Custom Loop 2x240mm + 1x120mm radiators in push/pull 16gb (2x8) Patriot Viper CL14 2666mhz RAM, Corsair HX850 PSU, 250gb Samsun 960 EVO NVMe Win 10 boot drive, 500gb Samsung 840 EVO SSD, 512GB TeamGroup MP30 M.2 SATA III SSD, SuperTalent 512gb SATA III SSD, CoolerMaster HAF XM Case. https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/37004594? Daughter 2 Rig: ASUS B350-PRIME ATX, Ryzen 7 1700, Sapphire Nitro+ R9 Fury Tri-X, 16gb (2x8) 3200mhz V-Color Skywalker, ANTEC Earthwatts 750w PSU, MasterLiquid Lite 120 AIO cooler in Push/Pull config as rear exhaust, 250gb Samsung 850 Evo SSD, Patriot Burst 240gb SSD, Cougar MX330-X Case Link to comment https://linustechtips.com/topic/1130943-which-cpu-do-you-prefer-for-your-computer/#findComment-13101521 Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 4, 2019 I usually run Intel, since I like HEDT hardware and team blue is consistently more affordable. I run X99 right now, and my 5960X/X99 Classy combo cost less than my 2700X/CH7, performs better, has way more PCIe lanes, etc. If I were to go back to mainstream, it'd likely be on Intel again because 1) the most affordable mATX motherboards to support SLI are Z370/Z390 boards, and 2) I can get an EVGA board and I'm a bit of a fanboy. Gaming PC NAS Laptop Workstation CPU: i5 12600KF 6P+4E Ryzen 7 3700X M4 SoC 4P+6E Xeon X5690 6c12t Cooler: Noctua NH-D15S Wraith Stealth w/NF-A9 Passive Apple CPU Cooler Motherboard: ASRock Z690 ITX/ax ASUS Pro B550M-C/CSM Apple J713AP Mac-F221BEC8 (Mac Pro 5,1) RAM: 2x16GB 3600Mhz DDR4 2x16GB 2400MHz DDR4 24GB Micron LPDDR5 4x8GB 1333MHz ECC DDR3 GPU: Sapphire Pulse Radeon 9060 XT 16GB Radeon WX2100 M4 SoC 10C Radeon RX 5700 Storage: 1TB MP34 + 2TB P41 500GB SSD + 2x4TB IronWolf Pro in ZFS Mirror Apple AP0512Z 1TB Crucial MX500 ODD: LG WH14NS40 None LG GP65NB60 USB DVD Writer Don't know PSU: EVGA 850W GM Silverstone SST-TX300 53.8Wh LiPo Battery Delta DPS-980BB Case: Silverstone Sugo 14 Dell Inspiron 530S Mac16,12 chassis (13" MBA) 2009-2012 Mac Pro "Cheese Grater" OS: Gentoo Linux TrueNAS Scale macOS 26 Tahoe Fedora Linux Display: LG 27UK650-W (4K 60Hz IPS panel) Mouse: EVGA X17 Keyboard: Corsair K55 RGB Mobile/Work Devices: 14" M5P MacBook Pro (work) - iPhone 17 Pro - Apple Watch S11 Other Misc Devices: iPod Video (Gen 5.5E, iFlash Solo w/128GB SD Card, Rockbox), Nintendo Switch Vehicles: 2002 Ford F150, 2003 Harley-Davidson Sportster 1200, 2022 Kawasaki KLR650, 1994 DR350SE Link to comment https://linustechtips.com/topic/1130943-which-cpu-do-you-prefer-for-your-computer/#findComment-13101648 Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 4, 2019 >be me >buy the first 16 core CPU for the mainstream platform. I think we know the answer here. Our Grace. The Feathered One. He shows us the way. His bob is majestic and shows us the path. Follow unto his guidance and His example. He knows the one true path. Our Saviour. Our Grace. Our Father Birb has taught us with His humble heart and gentle wing the way of the bob. Let us show Him our reverence and follow in His example. The True Path of the Feathered One. ~ Dimboble-dubabob III Link to comment https://linustechtips.com/topic/1130943-which-cpu-do-you-prefer-for-your-computer/#findComment-13101664 Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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