[Update] Apple's iMac Pro will be available for orders on December 14, 2017

[SpaceGhostC2C]

Just now, hey_yo_ said:

Maybe I picked something wrong. Maybe something incompatible with NVME SSD or the Vega 56?

Yeah, I edited above: it's the RAM, the list is back if you drop that kit.

[captain_to_fire]

3 minutes ago, SpaceGhostC2C said:

Yeah, I edited above: it's the RAM, the list is back if you drop that kit.

Well to match the specs of the base model iMac Pro, the RAM must be 32GB ECC memory for the PC build and the storage must be 1TB Samsung 960 Pro

Edited December 12, 2017 by hey_yo_

[SpaceGhostC2C]

Just now, hey_yo_ said:

Well to match the specs of the base model iMac Pro, the RAM must be 32GB ECC memory for the PC build

Apparently, that Xeon takes unbuffered ECC only, but won't do Registered ECC server RAM (same as AM3+ or AM4, perhaps not surprising in 1151).

[SpaceGhostC2C]

2 minutes ago, hey_yo_ said:

Well to match the specs of the base model iMac Pro

Wait, isn't the lowest in the article an 8-coore Xeon? And given they go up to 18, these iMacs must be on 2066, not 1151.

[captain_to_fire]

 

Just now, SpaceGhostC2C said:

Wait, isn't the lowest in the article an 8-coore Xeon? And given they go up to 18, these iMacs must be on 2066, not 1151.

I can't seem to find one one PCPP 

[mrchow19910319]

14 minutes ago, hey_yo_ said:

With the exception of the lack of user accessibility, I think it's safe to say that the iMac Pro's price is justified when you start building a PC with similar specs.

not to mention that you have to spend the time tinkering it. but with the imac pro you just open the box and start working. (omg i am one step closer to become a fanboy am i?)   

[captain_to_fire]

2 minutes ago, mrchow19910319 said:

not to mention that you have to spend the time tinkering it. but with the imac pro you just open the box and start working. (omg i am one step closer to become a fanboy am i?)   

I didn’t realize that the Vega 56 and 64 are expensive af until I made the OP. 

[Stefan1024]

Is it powerful? Yes

Is it too expensive? Yes, a bit.

Will people buy it anyway? Yes.

Do the users need this much performance? I assume less than 50% do.

 

I'm just wondering how loud it would be, considering the power consuption of a 18 core i9 and the vega 64. or will it just thermal throttle because they don't allow a loud PC?

[Ashaira]

"but for people invested in Apple's ecosystem"

 

That was their first mistake.

[mrchow19910319]

3 minutes ago, Stefan1024 said:

I'm just wondering how loud it would be, considering the power consuption of a 18 core i9 and the vega 64. or will it just thermal throttle because they don't allow a loud PC?

out of curiosity, if it does thermal throttle under windows 10, will it under macOS?

what I mean is that is this a universal thing or under certain OS it will not throttle no matter how hard you try, like it is a fixable issue on the software level. 

 

if you install some of the linux distro on it, will it throttle? 

[captain_to_fire]

1 minute ago, mrchow19910319 said:

out of curiosity, if it does thermal throttle under windows 10, will it under macOS?

what I mean is that is this a universal thing or under certain OS it will not throttle no matter how hard you try, like it is a fixable issue on the software level. 

 

if you install some of the linux distro on it, will it throttle? 

This is why I wonder why whenever Linus reviews a Mac, he performs synthetic benchmarks on a Windows 10 Bootcamp partition when most synthetic benchmarks with the exception of AIDA64 are available on the Mac. 

[Coaxialgamer]

It's been a while since one could legit say apple has one of the fastest computers available

[Stefan1024]

4 minutes ago, mrchow19910319 said:

out of curiosity, if it does thermal throttle under windows 10, will it under macOS?

what I mean is that is this a universal thing or under certain OS it will not throttle no matter how hard you try, like it is a fixable issue on the software level. 

 

if you install some of the linux distro on it, will it throttle? 

Actually, thermal throtteling is a sign the the OS is doing a good job in keeping the cores fed with data to process.

Add a nop() after every instruction and it will never throttle, but the performance is bad.

[mrchow19910319]

2 minutes ago, hey_yo_ said:

This is why I wonder why whenever Linus reviews a Mac, he performs synthetic benchmarks on a Windows 10 Bootcamp partition when most synthetic benchmarks with the exception of AIDA64 are available on the Mac. 

he gotta "apply" to his audience isnt he....

he knows most of the die hard fans are gamers.... 

i am not very found of his "PC USERS PERSPECTIVE" name tag right there... 

 

also is it just me or someone else also felt that luke is more anti apple than linus... 

nvm dont turn this into one of those infamous debate... i take back what i said

 

[mrchow19910319]

3 minutes ago, Stefan1024 said:

Actually, thermal throtteling is a sign the the OS is doing a good job in keeping the cores fed with data to process.

Add a nop() after every instruction and it will never throttle, but the performance is bad.

i see... so the gamer's stand "It will thermal throttle anyway" doesn't really make any sense... 

[captain_to_fire]

2 minutes ago, mrchow19910319 said:

am not very found of his "PC USERS PERSPECTIVE" name tag right there... 

Whenever Linus reviews a Mac, I sometimes take it with a grain of salt. Remember when Luke made a video about the MacBook Pro’s 16GB RAM limitation and he doesn’t seem to know that ULV Skylake only supports a maximum of 16GB LPDDR3 RAM on a single channel? 

[mrchow19910319]

14 minutes ago, hey_yo_ said:

Whenever Linus reviews a Mac, I sometimes take it with a grain of salt. Remember when Luke made a video about the MacBook Pro’s 16GB RAM limitation and he doesn’t seem to know that ULV Skylake only supports a maximum of 16GB LPDDR3 RAM on a single channel? 

that's why i said he is still the more anti apple one. 

[Drak3]

1 hour ago, hey_yo_ said:

This is why I wonder why whenever Linus reviews a Mac, he performs synthetic benchmarks on a Windows 10 Bootcamp partition when most synthetic benchmarks with the exception of AIDA64 are available on the Mac. 

It might be because it's easier for a PC user to figure out how to get HW info in Windows than OSX.

[Commodus]

This is definitely a niche machine, since you have to both need workstation-grade hardware and remain content with an all-in-one, but... if I could justify the money, I'd love it.  There's something alluring to a Xeon workstation so compact the entire thing sits inside a 5K display.

 

Of course, I'll probably change my tune the moment the redesigned Mac Pro shows up, because that'd probably be a better investment, but still...

[Drak3]

8 hours ago, D13H4RD2L1V3 said:

Not gonna lie, I do actually want one.

 

But I don’t work in the creative industry, so I don’t see why I would justify owning one

Windows in bootcamp, one hell on an all in one that can game.

[GDRRiley]

5 hours ago, Stefan1024 said:

Actually, thermal throtteling is a sign the the OS is doing a good job in keeping the cores fed with data to process.

Add a nop() after every instruction and it will never throttle, but the performance is bad.

BS its the result of having an inadequacy cooling solution something that apple forgets about because it puts design first 

[Drak3]

6 hours ago, Stefan1024 said:

Actually, thermal throtteling is a sign the the OS is doing a good job in keeping the cores fed with data to process.

Add a nop() after every instruction and it will never throttle, but the performance is bad.

No, it's not. It's a sign that the cooling system is inadequate, as one can thermal throttle a modern processor without running anything more than a UEFI or just the OS, no overclocking, just because whatever cooler needs to get the hell out of the kitchen.

[Stefan1024]

6 hours ago, GDRRiley said:

BS its the result of having an inadequacy cooling solution something that apple forgets about because it puts design first 

 

6 hours ago, Drak3 said:

No, it's not. It's a sign that the cooling system is inadequate, as one can thermal throttle a modern processor without running anything more than a UEFI or just the OS, no overclocking, just because whatever cooler needs to get the hell out of the kitchen.

Of course it all comes down to cooling. But he was asking me about the effect of different OS on thermal throtteling.

[GDRRiley]

Just now, Stefan1024 said:

 

Of course it all comes down to cooling. But he was asking me about the effect of different OS on thermal throtteling.

no os has no real effect. 

[captain_to_fire]

21 hours ago, GDRRiley said:

no os has no real effect. 

Unless the OS has bugs then the OS might sometimes affect benchmarks or even real life usage