Intel's Coffee Lake Is Coming August 21st

[Dackzy]

4 minutes ago, porina said:

Depends on the programs you use.

AutoCAD programs and such, but Eh we are probably still a good month away from the actual launch of the product in stores.

[MyName13]

So are they releasing or unveiling them on august 21.?

[Haaselh0ff]

Just now, MyName13 said:

So are they releasing or unveiling them on august 21.?

I'm betting its just an unveil into a release maybe a month later after gauging interest?

[NoMercy]

How intel getting one extra customer (me):

 

1) 21th august better be a release, not just announce.

2) My country better get it early

3) 8700k cost below usd$350

4) Gaming benchmark higher fps than 7700k, even by 1 is enough xp.

5) Overclockable to 5ghz with AIO.

 

Bad tim is expected, hopefully AIO can handle, else delidding is fine i guess.

 

Otherwise bye intel, and ryzen 7 1700 here i come.

[MyName13]

So how will turbo boost work on hexa cores?If 2.8 ghz is base clock for i5 8400 then how will all cores boost to 3.8 ghz?Why is it boost anyway if all of them can be boosted for 1 ghz?Will these even work on low end motherboard like previous i5s did?

[Haaselh0ff]

Just now, NoMercy said:

How intel getting one extra customer (me):

 

1) 21th august better be a release, not just announce.

2) My country better get it early

3) 8700k cost below usd$350

4) Gaming benchmark higher fps than 7700k, even by 1 is enough xp.

5) Overclockable to 5ghz with AIO.

 

Bad tim is expected, hopefully AIO can handle, else delidding is fibe i guess.

 

Otherwise bye intel, and ryzen 7 here i come.

I'm about the same way, if it's not better than the 7700k than there is literally no point and you might as well go Ryzen. Cost is also a huge factor because if its not competitive than Ryzen is almost the only real choice.

[DocSwag]

42 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

Yeah I know how it must feel paying the double for a marginally superior performance than the 1800x, I'm sorry mate.

Since when is it double?!?

 

Also keep in mind when OCed you'll be looking at around 15-20% higher single thread performance on the 7820x

[NoMercy]

5 minutes ago, Haaselh0ff said:

I'm about the same way, if it's not better than the 7700k than there is literally no point and you might as well go Ryzen. Cost is also a huge factor because if its not competitive than Ryzen is almost the only real choice.

I can accept if it has a little bit higher price. $350 is max limit. Since ryzen just decent on gaming, thats why i favour abit to intel.

 

If i buy ryzen7, probably half of the core will be just sleeping all day long lol

[ARikozuM]

2 minutes ago, DocSwag said:

Also keep in mind when OCed you'll be looking at around 15-20% higher single thread performance on the 7820x

Nothing is single-threaded these days, so there's no consequence for it. /s

[AnonymousGuy]

This is the launch for the "mobile" CFL chips.  The last update I've seen for desktop is the first week of October.

 

Desktop CFL: Oct 1-6

12 core -X is Aug. 28th

14+ core -X is Sept. 25

 

Strap in bois, it's going to be a busy couple months.

[DocSwag]

6 minutes ago, AnonymousGuy said:

This is the launch for the "mobile" CFL chips.  The last update I've seen for desktop is the first week of October.

 

Desktop CFL: Oct 1-6

12 core -X is Aug. 28th

14+ core -X is Sept. 25

 

Strap in bois, it's going to be a busy couple months.

How do you know?

[The Benjamins]

9 minutes ago, AnonymousGuy said:

This is the launch for the "mobile" CFL chips.  The last update I've seen for desktop is the first week of October.

 

Desktop CFL: Oct 1-6

12 core -X is Aug. 28th

14+ core -X is Sept. 25

 

Strap in bois, it's going to be a busy couple months.

This whole year has been riddled with launches thanks to AMD and Intel.

[Phate.exe]

1 hour ago, anthonyjc2010 said:

Anybody else really interested in what this means for Intel's lineup? Will i3s be 4C-4T or 2C-4T? Will the i5 be 6C-6T or 4C-8T (probably 6-6 because if they gave it hyper threading it would cannibalize the i7)? What about Ryzen 5?

 

In my opinion, what has been happening is we are watching Intel running around with it's head cut-off. They are being forced to change tactics from being the undisputed leader in X86, to facing extreme competition from AMD many fronts and Intel can't calm down and figure out what to do. Instead, they rushed X299 (causing many of the problems we have today with that platform), added 14, 16, and 18 core-CPUs that were not being developed for HEDT after ThreadRipper. They are rushing Coffee Lake, Z470 (We will get a new chipset, AMD has X370, by the virtue of the PR ranking scale, higher numbers and letters are needed), and the entire consumer line. Intel appears to just be throwing everything they have at AMD whether or not they should. This can also be seen on the Nvidia side. They released an update to the Titan Xp to increase its compute performance by 3X after RX Vega was announced. Most likely they would have never given us that performance, which I understand, but still can't help but be disturbed by.

 

Back to this release. I understand why Intel is releasing Coffee Lake early, I just don't know if it will be worth it in the long run. But, more competition the better. 

I know that the timescales usually involved are much too long to actually have an "oh crap, we need something like right now!".

 

But at the same time, it's really hard to see it any other way than Intel having to activate LOTS of contingency plans that they otherwise weren't planning to in response to Ryzen actually being pretty great.

[tom_w141]

33 minutes ago, NoMercy said:

1) 21th august better be a release, not just announce.

2) My country better get it early

3) 8700k cost below usd$350

4) Gaming benchmark higher fps than 7700k, even by 1 is enough xp.

5) Overclockable to 5ghz with AIO.

 

1) No.

2) No lol

3) Maybe but unlikely.

4) Yes if oc'd.

5) Not without delid.

[bimmerman]

Huh, this or the 8 core threadripper might get me to upgrade from my X58 6c/12t Xeon. Probably not though.

[Agosto]

200 series chipset and Kaby Lake: shortest-lived platform ever.

[SomeCallMeJo]

So who's going to see the solar eclipse?

I know I am!

[BazNaz]

What about the new Pentiums/i3's? When can we expect these?

[NumLock21]

2 hours ago, Flitter said:

Please be soldered

This is mobile. Intel toothpaste is good enough. No need for solder.

[Taf the Ghost]

1 hour ago, NoMercy said:

How intel getting one extra customer (me):

 

1) 21th august better be a release, not just announce.

2) My country better get it early

3) 8700k cost below usd$350

4) Gaming benchmark higher fps than 7700k, even by 1 is enough xp.

5) Overclockable to 5ghz with AIO.

 

Bad tim is expected, hopefully AIO can handle, else delidding is fine i guess.

 

Otherwise bye intel, and ryzen 7 1700 here i come.

 

1 hour ago, tom_w141 said:

 

1) No.

2) No lol

3) Maybe but unlikely.

4) Yes if oc'd.

5) Not without delid.

#3 might be the list price, but I'd be surprised if it's at the same level at the i7-7800X, which is roughly 390USD. Though the cynic in me thinks 350USD might be the list price because the 7800X has more PCIe lanes, even if it's likely a slower CPU in nearly everything.

 

#4 The 8700k will be a better Gaming CPU in a good number of modern titles because of the things that don't show up easily in testing. That "Ryzen is smoother" is real and it crops up in areas that aren't necessarily easily tested. A lot of games are using more cores, and the 7600k & 7700k are generally pinned at 100% in a lot of situations already. Those 2 extra cores are going to matter.  I've said in a few places that if Intel drops the Ring Bus/Inclusive L3 after Coffee Lake, that the 8700k could be the best gaming CPU for the next several years. That isn't a joke.

 

But, most of the improvement will be in a slightly higher base 1-core Boost. Without that, it'd be slower. Also, expect because it's a new PCH & Chipset, that early reviews might be slower because of microcode updates to come. (I'm not going to give Intel hell for needing microcode updates, there's always issues with every launch.)

 

#5 It actually might, but we'll see how well the IHS/TIM issues allow. With a delid? Sure, it's less heat than a 7900X puts out at 4.5 Ghz and those aren't really cooling limited on a 240 Rad.

[Cookybiscuit]

29 minutes ago, Taf the Ghost said:

I've said in a few places that if Intel drops the Ring Bus/Inclusive L3 after Coffee Lake, that the 8700k could be the best gaming CPU for the next several years. That isn't a joke.

I really hope this doesn't happen, 7800X is a huge piece of crap for gaming.

[Taf the Ghost]

12 minutes ago, Cookybiscuit said:

I really hope this doesn't happen, 7800X is a huge piece of crap for gaming.

Reality is that it's Nvidia's driver team that actually has made the Sandy Bridge uArch so useful for gaming. Which is why I think it's more the inclusive L3 Cache that's really the trick. They store something on the primary worker thread for the game there that let's them scale up their top SKU parts by some means. It crops up in older titles more than the really brand new ones, but it's impressive none the less.

[Nicnac]

4 hours ago, Flitter said:

Please be soldered

Lolno 

[Jito463]

4 hours ago, mynameisjuan said:

That on top of the typical upgrade cycle being 3-4 years when even AMD requires a new board. The intel hate wont stop because AMD has released one good product in 10 years.

The problem is that Intel has essentially killed a product line that's less than a year old.  If AMD did the same thing, I'd be just as upset with them.

3 hours ago, The Benjamins said:

This whole year has been riddled with launches thanks to AMD and Intel.

I know, ain't it grand?  This is a great year for tech enthusiasts!

[ARikozuM]

1 minute ago, Jito463 said:

The problem is that Intel has essentially killed a product line that's less than a year old.  If AMD did the same thing, I'd be just as upset with them.

AMD did as well by not making a new architecture in all these years. I doubt that CFL will overtake KBL/SKL by a huge margin. It also isn't likely that SKL/KBL will drop their performance in a few months or years just because hexa-cores are more common.