Ryzen has pins.... PINS!!!

[killcomic]

I was seriously considering upgrading to Ryzen (once the reviews were out, of course) but I've just found out it has pins, you know, like my old Pentium 4... the kind that bends and makes your CPU unusable.

I'm a tad less enthusiastic now.

[mrdoxxy]

holy shit why cant they start using lga??? is it only licensed to intel or what

[Da OG Fish]

Maybe it's copyrighted? I like how Intel puts their pins on the mobo.

[Enderman]

We kinda knew this in 2016...

Where were you?

[normpearii]

Really? You know how easy it is to bend the pins back with a credit card?


You just treat it as carefully as you would placing your Intel CPU into your new motherboard and you have zero problems.

[HKZeroFive]

PGA isn't that big of a deal.

 

1. If the pins are bent, then they're quite easy to bend back.

2. The cost of motherboards should theoretically be less, although I haven't seen any indication of this in the "leaked" prices of AM4 motherboards by ASUS and MSI.

[iamMINT]

4 minutes ago, mrdoxxy said:

holy shit why cant they start using lga??? is it only licensed to intel or what

Harder to break + cheaper

[killcomic]

4 minutes ago, normpearii said:

Really? You know how easy it is to bend the pins back with a credit card?


You just treat it as carefully as you would placing your Intel CPU into your new motherboard and you have zero problems.

You know how easy it is to mess it up real bad? There's a reason why Intel stopped using pins.

[mrdoxxy]

2 minutes ago, JohnBRoark said:

Harder to break + cheaper

exactly so they should start using lga

[killcomic]

5 minutes ago, Enderman said:

We kinda knew this in 2016...

Where were you?

Working and living my life.

[iamMINT]

7 minutes ago, killcomic said:

I was seriously considering upgrading to Ryzen (once the reviews were out, of course) but I've just found out it has pins, you know, like my old Pentium 4... the kind that bends and makes your CPU unusable.

I'm a tad less enthusiastic now.

Don't be. Pins can be repaired much easier and as long as you store them okay, or just put it in the motherboard after taking it out of the packaging then it'll be fine. Even if you bend pins its completely fixable, even on Pentiums.

[zMeul]

5 minutes ago, Da OG Fish said:

Maybe it's copyrighted? I like how Intel puts their pins on the mobo.

no they aren't

AMD's Opterons have LGA sockets

 

[normpearii]

I've dropped a 8120 before and bent every single pin, bent them all back and it still works 4 years later.


You're seriously exaggerating something that is no more different than someone accidentally dropping their new Intel CPU into the socket and bending those tiny pins that bend much easier and having the send the motherboard back.


You take a second and carefully place the CPU in, makes no difference if it's either a LGA or PGA socket.

[Windows7ge]

As far back as my knowledge goes AMD has ALWAYS used pins ON their CPU's...why would Ryzen be any different?

 

Edit: On their consumer lineup chips. Not including server.

[killcomic]

2 minutes ago, JohnBRoark said:

Don't be. Pins can be repaired much easier and as long as you store them okay, or just put it in the motherboard after taking it out of the packaging then it'll be fine. Even if you bend pins its completely fixable, even on Pentiums.

I've fixed pins before but it's hardly a trivial thing. You can easily end up with a dead CPU.

I still have nightmares of a P3 being ripped out of a socket when I removed the HSF.

[killcomic]

2 minutes ago, Windows7ge said:

As far back as my knowledge goes AMD has ALWAYS used pins ON their CPU's...why would Ryzen be any different?

I don't know, hoping they would at last embrace the 21st century.

[cj09beira]

2 minutes ago, killcomic said:

I've fixed pins before but it's hardly a trivial thing. You can easily end up with a dead CPU.

I still have nightmares of a P3 being ripped out of a socket when I removed the HSF.

try repairing a bent pin on a lga socket, spoiler alert is much harder and can easy break the pin

[Windows7ge]

4 minutes ago, killcomic said:

I've fixed pins before but it's hardly a trivial thing. You can easily end up with a dead CPU.

I still have nightmares of a P3 being ripped out of a socket when I removed the HSF.

I ripped a pentium (I know it's intel) chip out of its socket when it welded itself to the CPU cooler. I can still remember the grinding sound it made and my shock as I flipped the cooler over.

[killcomic]

1 minute ago, cj09beira said:

try repairing a bent pin on a lga socket, spoiler alert is much harder and can easy break the pin

But a mobo is a lot cheaper.

[iamMINT]

1 minute ago, killcomic said:

I don't know, hoping they would at last embrace the 21st century.

What do you mean? Intel's been doing the same thing for just as long. Just because intel does it differently doesn't mean they do it better. Like I said I work on computers almost every day and I have to go in and repair way more intel motherboards than I do amd cpu's because of pins.

[iamMINT]

1 minute ago, killcomic said:

But a mobo is a lot cheaper.

No neither motherboards are much cheaper with/without pins.

[normpearii]

Spoiler

All it takes its dropping the CPU a tiny bit above the socket. LGA is no safer than PGA.


Just don't pull a Linus and you'll be fine with either.

[cj09beira]

1 minute ago, killcomic said:

But a mobo is a lot cheaper.

the pins are made of a gold alloy, one of the metals that bend the most before breaking :|

[killcomic]

2 minutes ago, JohnBRoark said:

What do you mean? Intel's been doing the same thing for just as long. Just because intel does it differently doesn't mean they do it better. Like I said I work on computers almost every day and I have to go in and repair way more intel motherboards than I do amd cpu's because of pins.

But really, how many people use AMD these days?

[cj09beira]

theres also this.

If I am going to buy a ryzen cpu, i am not going too fool around with it,