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I think this uncut video is very impressive, I am really impressed by it stopping at stop signs and preforming the turns with 0 human input. also the driver/rider looks far more calm and his hands are not near the wheel like the old videos of autopilot.

 

What are your guys thoughts?

https://mashable.com/article/tesla-model-3-drives-itself/

 

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4 minutes ago, The Benjamins said:

 

I think this uncut video is very impressive, I am really impressed by it stopping at stop signs and preforming the turns with 0 human input. also the driver/rider looks far more calm and his hands are not near the wheel like the old videos of autopilot.

 

What are your guys thoughts?

https://mashable.com/article/tesla-model-3-drives-itself/

 

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Impressive? Yes, but until it's shown to handle stop and go traffic, and have it deal with other drivers with road rage or a pedestrian filled city, I'll stick with manual driving.

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Now we just need it to do this on its own :P 

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20 minutes ago, Dissitesuxba11s said:

Impressive? Yes, but until it's shown to handle stop and go traffic, and have it deal with other drivers with road rage or a pedestrian filled city, I'll stick with manual driving.

standard ACC handles stop and go traffic for years, and a car deals with road rage better then a person, it will not tail gate, it will not get mad. this has been done years already.

 

the pedestrian filled city is a area of concern.

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Wonder how well can this handle asian traffic?

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>Going 10mph over the speed limit
Seems a little irresponsible and really stupid to record yourself violating the law, especially in a  demo meant to show how good self driving cars are.

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Is there no acceptable limit of exceeding the speed limit? In Russia you are more or less "allowed" to go 20kph over the speed limit without any legal reprocussions. Althout it would be an aggravating circumstance in case you hit something

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2 hours ago, Dissitesuxba11s said:

Impressive? Yes, but until it's shown to handle stop and go traffic, and have it deal with other drivers with road rage or a pedestrian filled city, I'll stick with manual driving.

My main worry is who's gonna be responsible when people get run over, cars get hit, people drive off cliffs or into water with the autopilot... Will Tesla take the blame, will insurance deal with it, will they blame the owner of Tesla, who? This particularly applies to situations where Tesla might cause the accident with a manual driven car. Who wants to bet the narrative will go along the lines of "machines are never wrong, it must have been a human error in the manually driven car". And how to disprove that unless you have camera in your car.

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1 hour ago, The Benjamins said:

standard ACC handles stop and go traffic for years, and a car deals with road rage better then a person, it will not tail gate, it will not get mad. this has been done years already.

I should have worded it better. What I meant was how it handles other drivers that driver very aggressively like in Asian countries as what @williamcll said. Road rules are more like guidelines there.

 

14 minutes ago, RejZoR said:

My main worry is who's gonna be responsible when people get run over, cars get hit, people drive off cliffs or into water with the autopilot... Will Tesla take the blame, will insurance deal with it, will they blame the owner of Tesla, who? This particularly applies to situations where Tesla might cause the accident with a manual driven car. Who wants to bet the narrative will go along the lines of "machines are never wrong, it must have been a human error in the manually driven car". And how to disprove that unless you have camera in your car.

Definitely a bigger worry especially with that Tesla Network being planned out. 

 

For those who don't know, the Tesla Network is Tesla's take on the ride sharing service where your automated Tesla can be hailed via an app while you are not using it; as long as you consent to the service.

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46 minutes ago, hobobobo said:

Is there no acceptable limit of exceeding the speed limit?

no

 

30 minutes ago, RejZoR said:

My main worry is who's gonna be responsible when people get run over, cars get hit, people drive off cliffs or into water with the autopilot... Will Tesla take the blame, will insurance deal with it, will they blame the owner of Tesla, who?

Its the same as now. The person responsible is who is at fault. if your brand new car's brakes fail causing it to slam into someone, its the car maker's fault.

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I wish it would tell me it's speed compared to the speed limit

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1 hour ago, Dissitesuxba11s said:

I should have worded it better. What I meant was how it handles other drivers that driver very aggressively like in Asian countries as what @williamcll said. Road rules are more like guidelines there.

 

Definitely a bigger worry especially with that Tesla Network being planned out. 

 

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well the first step is to get it working for countries that have set and followed road rules.

 

These are more flaws with the country then self driving cars.

 

 

so for the accident issue at this point I think tesla (or any company) should have waivers when a car is sold with a self driving system stating that the user must maintain responsibility of the vehicle in motion, stating that the user must be able to intervene if the system fails. at this point I don't see anyone going to be able to guarantee the system in all possible conditions.

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It seems like it needs to learn how to change lanes to not got 75 in the slow lane. 

 

I also wonder if it’s smart enough to auto get over or slow down when emergency vehicles are on a shoulder 

 

It’s a state by state thing for speed limit overages. In Georgia going 10 over can only be written up by state troopers.

most places don’t care about 5-10MPH over. 

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2 hours ago, poochyena said:

no

 

Its the same as now. The person responsible is who is at fault. if your brand new car's brakes fail causing it to slam into someone, its the car maker's fault.

One thing is a mechanical failure, how will you prove a glitch in sensors, network connectivity, GPS, whatever? How is person's fault if the person is not even holding the steering wheel or controls the pedals?

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what happens if the lanes aren't marked as clearly and such? Does it just give you an audible warning or something to take control if it needs assistance?

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18 minutes ago, RejZoR said:

how will you prove a glitch in sensors, network connectivity, GPS, whatever?

The video system and the activity log.

19 minutes ago, RejZoR said:

How is person's fault if the person is not even holding the steering wheel or controls the pedals?

Just depends what happened. If you don't maintain your car and treat it carelessly, you could be at fault. Its literally no different than cars without sensors.

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3 hours ago, poochyena said:

>Going 10mph over the speed limit
Seems a little irresponsible and really stupid to record yourself violating the law, especially in a  demo meant to show how good self driving cars are.

its usually safer to keep the same speed as trafic than to stay within the rules, (been on some scary situations because the driver did not want to speed).

27 minutes ago, RejZoR said:

One thing is a mechanical failure, how will you prove a glitch in sensors, network connectivity, GPS, whatever? How is person's fault if the person is not even holding the steering wheel or controls the pedals?

for now the driver will remain responsible, as its like an airplane autopilot, it helps you but you still have to keep an eye on it and override it when needed, though i can see it being a problem latter on when you are on the back seat having "fun" and the car is completely autonomous 

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22 minutes ago, cj09beira said:

keep the same speed as trafic

The car in the video was clearly passing everyone....

 

23 minutes ago, cj09beira said:

(been on some scary situations because the driver did not want to speed)

maybe you should have also went the speed limit too.

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2 minutes ago, poochyena said:

The car in the video was clearly passing everyone....

 

maybe you should have also went the speed limit too.

haven't seen the video, so was responding in general, 

didn't quite get what you meant with the second phrase.

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19 minutes ago, cj09beira said:

didn't quite get what you meant with the second phrase.

ditto

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This is just a package of very good driver assists, it is in no way shape or form 'autopilot'.  

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usually it is never about the expressway or highways that the self driving cars drives on, most people really just care about how it would work in urban areas 

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Not bad, for a road without much traffic and essentially is a just highway.

 

Now I want to see the same in a crowed city, with scumbag pedestrians crossing on red lights, in between two cars in the middle of the road, cyclist not doing their stops/burning red lights, cycling in the middle of the lane as if they were cars when they should be on the sides... other scummy drivers, etc etc etc.

 

I also wonder how it would work in bad weather, like rain or snow.

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