Intel launches Greenlow platform: Skylake Xeon E3 1200 v5

[NumLock21]

The Skylake Xeon E3-1200 V5 lineup which has launched today consists of 11 Xeon processors while three more are going to make their way to the market in 2016, featuring faster graphics processors and embedded DRAM.

Back in August, Intel launched the very first processor based on its newest Skylake architecture, specifically the Core i7 6700K and Core i5 6600K, both of these are quad core chips with a unlock multiplier to allow overclocking. Following that, we got the rest of the line up, all the way down to the entry level Pentium. Today we're going to take a look at the server/workstation side of Skylake, or more specifially Intel Xeon E3 1200 v5. Intel Xeon E3 1200 v5 skylake processors built on the current 14nm process will have a maximum of 4 cores with some models supporting Intel Hyper Threading Technology. It will run on the current Intel 1151 socket, with official support of up to 64GB of DDR4 memory at 1866/2133MHz.and DDR3L at 1333/1600MHz @ 1.35v. Frequency ranges from 2GHz all the way up to 3.7GHz and TDP of 25w to 80w. The processors will consist of 3 product categories. First up there is the Xeon E3 1200 v5 (4+GT0): LGA 1151/4 cores/no igpu. Next up there is the Xeon E3 1200 v5 (4+GT2): LGA 1151/4 cores/Intel P530 graphics, and finally Xeon E3 1200 v5 (4+GT4e), BGA/4 cores/Intel Iris Pro with 64MB eDRAM. Unlike its predecessor, Haswell and Broadwell, where users can Install a Xeon into a motherboard running on a consumer based chipset such as the Intel Z97. It's said that these Skylake Xeons are not compatibe with consumer based chipset like the Intel Z170. When it's installed with a non-compatible chipset, then the system will simply not boot. Not sure if that is true or motherboard makers can do a workaround with a bios update. Official chipset support for these Xeon Skylake cpus are Intel C232 and Intel C236, with BGA cpus only supported on Intel C236.

While a lot of users are using Xeon for their builds, it's cheaper with Core i7 features like Hyper Threading. Intel's move for this might be a good thing, because they probably don't want to have it mixed with thier consumer platforms, as it might defeat the purpose of their Xeon parts as well as any special features that might come with it. A recent survey has revealed that motherboards with green pcb, once unpopular, has started to gain popularity among tech enthusiast. My dream machine was to always have a motherboard with a green pcb.

 

http://wccftech.com/intel-skylake-xeon-e31200-v5-greenlow-family-launched-workstation-chips-incompatible-100series-desktop-chipsets/

[Curufinwe_wins]

Well those are worthless. They won't even let you put it on the z170 (or h110/h170) anymore? Fuck you Intel.

[Daegun]

Unlike its predecessor, Haswell and Broadwell, where users can Install a Xeon into a motherboard running on a consumer based chipset such as the Intel Z97. It's said that these Skylake Xeons are not compatibe with consumer based chipset like the Intel Z170. When it's installed with a non-compatible chipset, then the system will simply not boot.

Why Intel?

 

What was the point in doing this?

[Clyne]

Another reason to wait for Zen for that single/multi core performance......

Plus Z chipsets are BS when the max Sata ports are only 6 and give you only 20 PCIE lanes...

[Vanderburg]

Well those are worthless. They won't even let you put it on the z170 (or h110/h170) anymore? Fuck you Intel.

 

Worthless? A large portion of my work's income comes from offering E3-1270 (v1/2/3) servers. They work just fine like this and are worth quite a bit to us.

[Gofspar]

Another reason to wait for Zen for that single/multi core performance......

Plus Z chipsets are BS when the max Sata ports are only 6 and give you only 20 PCIE lanes...

Wait two years, no thanks.

 

By the time Zen is out Intel will have something better, AMD's CPU's are nothing but a fun little platform to get hwbot points on..

[Clyne]

Wait two years, no thanks.

 

By the time Zen is out Intel will have something better, AMD's CPU's are nothing but a fun little platform to get hwbot points on..

Better than spending 400+ on just board features that are only offered on X Chipsets and not Z Chipsets.

Funny how you say that when Cannonlake is delayed...and there's nothing but Kaby Lake in 2016 that would probably be a Skylake Refresh.

[Deletive]

Wait two years, no thanks.

 

By the time Zen is out Intel will have something better, AMD's CPU's are nothing but a fun little platform to get hwbot points on..

Again it doesn't need to be something better, it just needs to something competitive, Intel probably won't have something much better then skylake by late 2016/early 2017, Kaby lake won't improve much on the architecture and while cannonlake is just a normal tick in intel's schedule.

OT: While that sucks and completely ruins the chip for most of us. 

[Guest]

Well those are worthless. They won't even let you put it on the z170 (or h110/h170) anymore? Fuck you Intel.

Jesus why is everyone so narrow minded? They're a great step up from the old V3's. The V4's were never a viable option due to MOQ's and generally a short life cycle. The 64GB RAM upgrade will also be great as I've had a number of customers looking for that.

[Gofspar]

Better than spending 400+ on just board features that are only offered on X Chipsets and not Z Chipsets.

Funny how you say that when Cannonlake is delayed...and there's nothing but Kaby Lake in 2016 that would probably be a Skylake Refresh.

Don't expect much for Zen is all im saying, also I got my board for less than a decent Z97 Board, homie @rtsurfer sold it to me BNIB for $220 + I got a sponsored chip from Silicon Lottery, don't tell me I paid too much for X99 when I paid less than if I was going Skylake..

 

OR If by a miracle it's good in a year or two Intel will catch upto them and beat them for another 5 years, wash and repeat.

We need something revolutionary like the Phenom and Athlon days. 

[Clyne]

Don't expect much for Zen is all im saying, also I got my board for less than a decent Z97 Board, homie @rtsurfer sold it to me BNIB for $220 + I got a sponsored chip from Silicon Lottery, don't tell me I paid too much for X99 when I paid less than if I was going Skylake..

Yeah i know, but i want something that's at least better than my FX. Somewhere around Haswell would be good enough with a cheap motherboard that has more than 6+ Sata ports and 20+ PCIE lanes.

Z97 only allows 6 MAX with 20 PCIE lanes...i need more sata ports but not looking to spend a lot of money just for some extra ports like X99. 

[Gofspar]

Yeah i know, but i want something that's at least better than my FX. Somewhere around Haswell would be good enough with a cheap motherboard that has more than 6+ Sata ports and 20+ PCIE lanes.

Z97 only allows 6 MAX with 20 PCIE lanes...i need more sata ports but not looking to spend a lot of money just for some extra ports like X99. 

Just snipe a used X99 SLI Plus and a used 5930K for like $400 for the pair.

[Curufinwe_wins]

Worthless? A large portion of my work's income comes from offering E3-1270 (v1/2/3) servers. They work just fine like this and are worth quite a bit to us.

echo'ng below

[Curufinwe_wins]

Jesus why is everyone so narrow minded? They're a great step up from the old V3's. The V4's were never a viable option due to MOQ's and generally a short life cycle. The 64GB RAM upgrade will also be great as I've had a number of customers looking for that.

For a system integrator that can pass costs directly off to consumers, sure they have a purpose.

 

For everyone else with half a brain they don't. And this move directly hurts consumers by locking down the platform. Just like Skylake in the "mainstream line" the v5's are an utter waste of money compared to the v3 and if you really are looking at hardware where the v5s improvements is cost justified then you really should be looking at the e5's anyways.

 

But hey most people system integrators sell to have no freaking clue that is the case.

[ZetZet]

Aww. Xeon gaming pc master race is dying.

[Curufinwe_wins]

Aww. Xeon gaming pc master race is dying.

xeons for anything but servers (and even then... e3 servers are less and less competitive now).

[Guest]

xeons for anything but servers (and even then... e3 servers are less and less competitive now).

Not exactly - The T110's, ML10's and similar are still huge product ranges for HP and Dell. I do understand that less and less businesses are going for on premise servers and instead for the cloud however even then, they still sell great.

[Curufinwe_wins]

Not exactly - The T110's, ML10's and similar are still huge product ranges for HP and Dell. I do understand that less and less businesses are going for on premise servers and instead for the cloud however even then, they still sell great.

Sales=/=competitiveness... But I digress, I guess the 1260L looks to be a fairly interesting part.

 

It's just extremely frustrating that the c230 series motherboard requirements completely destroys the cost benefits of most of these xeons for small business/amateur servers (not that they will know that. Yay for ignorance.)

 

Or even the e1230 from it's quite strong general purpose use argument.

[Sidiox]

Welp that lock down is kinda sucky... I don't really get why they would do that. Also I'm still rocking a e3 1220 v2 in my server

[dylan43270]

Just snipe a used X99 SLI Plus and a used 5930K for like $400 for the pair.

If you could find me both for that price I would buy them in a heartbeat. Just saying.

[Curufinwe_wins]

Welp that lock down is kinda sucky... I don't really get why they would do that. Also I'm still rocking a e3 1220 v2 in my server

3 reasons.

1. They can make more money by segregating the market and selling more chipset variants.

2. OEM's can make more money by shoehorning people into better margin products (all server products have MUCH higher profit margins than mainstream).

3. They can prevent significant overclocking through base clock on Z series chipsets by not allowing them to work on Z-series chipsets. Hence keeping their product stack in its "proper" place.

[Gofspar]

If you could find me both for that price I would buy them in a heartbeat. Just saying.

 

great motherboard

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128851 

 

No good deals on a 5930k, but heres a nice deal on a 5820k.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-i7-5820K-3-3GHz-Haswell-E-LGA-2011-v3-Core-140W-Desktop-Processor-/151854255374?hash=item235b380d0e:g:OCgAAOSw9mFWJEBG

[ChrisCross]

4ghz turbo on a xeon is quite impressive. also 64gb ram is probably appreciated by a lot of people.

i cinda dont care about them not beeing consumer grade cause they never were ment to be and their core i counter parts arent really cheaper.

[Curufinwe_wins]

great motherboard

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128851 

 

No good deals on a 5930k, but heres a nice deal on a 5820k.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-i7-5820K-3-3GHz-Haswell-E-LGA-2011-v3-Core-140W-Desktop-Processor-/151854255374?hash=item235b380d0e:g:OCgAAOSw9mFWJEBG

That's an awful deal.

 

Better off buying new at that point.

 

Like so: http://www.microcenter.com/product/437203/core_i7-5820k_33_ghz_lga_2011_v3_tray_processor

[Gofspar]

That's an awful deal.

 

Better off buying new at that point.

 

Like so: http://www.microcenter.com/product/437203/core_i7-5820k_33_ghz_lga_2011_v3_tray_processor

I don't live by a microcenter, cheapest local place is 425 USD.