the $100 220w, 4.7ghz 8core CPU... any good?

[iLostMyXbox21]

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/pGrG3C/amd-cpu-fd9590fhhkwof

AMD - FX-9590... with a boost clock of 5ghz and a base clock at 4.7ghz, this looks like a really good budget CPU, since it is only $100 (just a tad bit more expensive than a 2200g) so if i got a powerful cooler or a water cooler, would this be worth it? however, it runs on the AM3 socket. and with a 220 watt power consumption, it will need a hefty power supply. 

 

what do you think? good?

[3 Lions]

Stay away from the FX line. 

[iLostMyXbox21]

Just now, LinusTechTipsFanFromDarlo said:

Stay away from the FX line. 

fx bad?

[3 Lions]

Just now, iLostMyXbox21 said:

fx bad?

Very

[Guest]

its basically a slightly faster fx 8350

if the 8350 can do it now, the 9590 can do it too

its just the FX line is terrible and specifically the 9590 is absolutely shit

 

you need the really high end chipset mobos which are expensive and its performance can be beat by a haswell i5 for significantly cheaper

[iLostMyXbox21]

1 minute ago, LinusTechTipsFanFromDarlo said:

Very

this one isnt FX, it is X4

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/94s8TW/amd-cpu-ad880kxbjcsbx

 

[FloRolf]

For just 50€ more I got myself a used 1700X which blows whistles with the 9590.

[komar]

FX and the ahlon 7** share the same weakness. They have fast cores, but those cores share resources. In other words, in the FX case, you have 4 very fast cores (because they get all the cache) and  4 retarded ones...

 

It was a way for AMD to make cheaper CPUS that didn't work out...

[3 Lions]

Just now, iLostMyXbox21 said:

this one isnt FX, it is X4

 

Still atrocious in every way possible.  

[iLostMyXbox21]

5 minutes ago, LinusTechTipsFanFromDarlo said:

Still atrocious in every way possible.  

so neither of them are good?

[Princess Luna]

FX line up is obsolete, a G4560 outperforms the FX-9590

[Canada EH]

If you want a space heater for a pc, FX 9 series is your goto!

 

You could buy a 4th gen intel pc used, everything including w10, for $150 and its shipped free! Those pc's are a dime a dozen now because everyone wants the newest to show off to their cat and dog and sig other.

[Tristerin]

7 minutes ago, iLostMyXbox21 said:

so neither of them are good?

I game on FX 8350 and Ryzen 7 1700 - the FX 8350 is absolutely viable in todays AAA games. 

 

However you could buy a Refurbished i5 3470 complete tower PC for under $200 with OS, HDD, ODD, etc for under $200 that will be comparable in gaming 100%.  I have this system too, it plays GTA 5, ARK, etc.

[komar]

Just now, iLostMyXbox21 said:

so neither of them are good?

Now, as an long long time owner of an 760k Athlon, let me explain it to you what life with this is.

First, there is almost to difference between Athlon 7** and 8** other than clock speed and sata 3 I think?

Second very deppends what motherboard you put in it. Sometime around 2014 or so I got my 760k with the cheapest MB on the market. It made my life hell. That chip literally melted the poor Gigabyte MB (it wasn't on the CPU supported list but still ran like a champ and overclocked too XD). Last year I bought one of the best ones MBs for FM2 socket. Now the chip is rocksteady at 4.7 GHz on air cooler and you know what? It will still get it ass whooped in cinebench from any modern dual core with threads.

 

 

The real weakness is from the fact that put it simply, Intel has 2 plates from which each core "feeds", while AMD made 2 cores on 1 plate to battle for resources. This makes say core 2 to wait for core 1 to finish and use the shared cache,

 

If you want to look at insane clock speeds, like me, it's very nice platform. With decent cooling I bet my chip can crack 5.5 or even 6 GHz easy. Just the performance isn't there...

 

Furthermore the 8** series inherited the 7** weakness  - no upgrade path, if you get the best from the start.

 

Just, don't deal with this.  Get cheap Ryzen, it will perform way better.

[Jurrunio]

FX9590... More of a collector's item tbh

[Tristerin]

1 minute ago, komar said:

Now, as an long long time owner of an 760k Athlon, let me explain it to you what life with this is.

First, there is almost to difference between Athlon 7** and 8** other than clock speed and sata 3 I think?

Second very deppends what motherboard you put in it. Sometime around 2014 or so I got my 760k with the cheapest MB on the market. It made my life hell. That chip literally melted the poor Gigabyte MB (it wasn't on the CPU supported list but still ran like a champ and overclocked too XD). Last year I bought one of the best ones MBs for FM2 socket. Now the chip is rocksteady at 4.7 GHz on air cooler and you know what? It will still get it ass whooped in cinebench from any modern dual core with threads.

 

 

The real weakness is from the fact that put it simply, Intel has 2 plates from which each core "feeds", while AMD made 2 cores on 1 plate to battle for resources. This makes say core 2 to wait for core 1 to finish and use the shared cache,

 

If you want to look at insane clock speeds, like me, it's very nice platform. With decent cooling I bet my chip can crack 5.5 or even 6 GHz easy. Just the performance isn't there...

 

Furthermore the 8** series inherited the 7** weakness  - no upgrade path, if you get the best from the start.

 

Just, don't deal with this.  Get cheap Ryzen, it will perform way better.

 

If you cant afford a new build, then by a T3500 workstation that needs an OS and HDD for under $220, just make sure its the X5690 processor (6 cores 12 threads) - super cheap, super effective gaming unit once you slap a GPU in it.

 

EDIT - sorry didn't meant to quote you to disagree, more on the line if he cant afford to start from a new platforms cost perspective

[GoldenLag]

Rather Ryzen 2200G than anything fx related. 

[3 Lions]

12 minutes ago, iLostMyXbox21 said:

so neither of them are good?

Correct.

[iLostMyXbox21]

2 minutes ago, Tristerin said:

However you could buy a Refurbished i5 3470 complete tower PC for under $200 with OS, HDD, ODD, etc for under $200 that will be comparable in gaming 100%.  I have this system too, it plays GTA 5, ARK, etc.

what about pubg? 

 

i was about to ask what an ODD what then i remembered lol

1 minute ago, komar said:

Now, as an long long time owner of an 760k Athlon, let me explain it to you what life with this is.

First, there is almost to difference between Athlon 7** and 8** other than clock speed and sata 3 I think?

Second very deppends what motherboard you put in it. Sometime around 2014 or so I got my 760k with the cheapest MB on the market. It made my life hell. That chip literally melted the poor Gigabyte MB (it wasn't on the CPU supported list but still ran like a champ and overclocked too XD). Last year I bought one of the best ones MBs for FM2 socket. Now the chip is rocksteady at 4.7 GHz on air cooler and you know what? It will still get it ass whooped in cinebench from any modern dual core with threads.

 

 

The real weakness is from the fact that put it simply, Intel has 2 plates from which each core "feeds", while AMD made 2 cores on 1 plate to battle for resources. This makes say core 2 to wait for core 1 to finish and use the shared cache,

 

If you want to look at insane clock speeds, like me, it's very nice platform. With decent cooling I bet my chip can crack 5.5 or even 6 GHz easy. Just the performance isn't there...

 

Furthermore the 8** series inherited the 7** weakness  - no upgrade path, if you get the best from the start.

 

Just, don't deal with this.  Get cheap Ryzen, it will perform way better.

oof, that sounds like a no go

[komar]

1 minute ago, iLostMyXbox21 said:

what about pubg? 

 

i was about to ask what an ODD what then i remembered lol

oof, that sounds like a no go

My 760k will play anything you throw at it, but it's not much better than the now very obsolete Q6600. In my case, my GTX 960 (even the 2 GB variant that I have) can't stretch it's legs fully in CPU heavy titles. For example, Assassin's Creed Syndicate is not playable even at lowest settings with the 760, while on my new Ryzen 1500x system with the same 960 in it, I play on middle settings just fine...

[Tristerin]

6 minutes ago, iLostMyXbox21 said:

what about pubg? 

 

i was about to ask what an ODD what then i remembered lol

oof, that sounds like a no go

Eh, depends on what you are doing for them to stutter on 4 out of the 8 "cores" in gaming on todays titles the FX 8350 all 8 "cores" are in use and not sitting around idle, in fact Windows will turn off 2 cores to save power cause it doesn't need it.  I like my FX 8350.  Good little chip, works just fine today (and I game at 1600x900 pref, have an Acer 2k pred my wife uses that I don't like the pixels - so more stress on the CPU)

 

Ive never played PUBG - I don't buy alphas anymore.  Plus that game is terribly optimized so I wouldn't throw anything but the best systems at it.  So imho I couldn't recommend an old i5 to play PUBG, unless you don't care about details etc.  And in that game I would.