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Why use tape drives?

Car712
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So I have been seeing alot about tape drives lately, especially on here. My question is, why use them? It sounds like an old technology to me, just like a VHS, or Hard Drive, or something? I dont really know anything about them but are they really any better than SSDs or Hard Drives?

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_tape_data_storage

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As of 2009, Medium and large-sized data centers deployed both tape and disk formats.[9]

The costs of disk storage have decreased faster than that of tapes. Until about the end of the twentieth century, prices and capacities allowed backing up a desktop hard drive to tape more cheaply and more compactly than backing up to an additional external or removable drive. Drive prices offer capacities of hundreds to thousands of megabytes on relatively inexpensive machines. Backing up to an external USB drive became cheaper, and the drive more compact, than tape for a non-networked machine used by a business or serious user.[10]

As a basic comparison, mainframe-class tape drives, such as Oracle's Sun StorageTek T10000B, are priced[when?] at approximately US$37,000 each, excluding tape libraries. (IBM's TS1130 is also representative of this storage class.) At any single moment in time each T10000C tape drive can read or write (or both read and write)[citation needed] to one tape cartridge which can contain up to 5TB of uncompressed data. Real-world sequential data transfer speeds are high (sustained 240MB/second for the T10000C and 160MB/second for the TS1130) compared to disk. However, PC-class hard disks are priced below $200 for 3TB.[11] One mainframe-class hard disk still has a much lower price than one mainframe-class tape drive, so the economics might favor disk.

However, the key difference is that tape drives can exchange their magnetic media (the cartridges) frequently, while the magnetic media installed inside each hard disk is fixed and cannot be swapped. (The drives themselves could be moved if installed in swappable caddies at extra cost, with extra cost hot-swappable infrastructure.) Mainframe-class tape drives are almost always installed in robotic tape libraries which are often quite large and can hold thousands of cartridges. The StorageTek SL8500 library is one representative example. The smallest SL8500 library holds up to 1,448 tape cartridges, for 1.4 Petabytes of online uncompressed storage. An equivalent amount of PC-class hard disk storage would be priced at $100,000 or less for the drives. The tape library would likely deliver a higher sustained sequential write speed, the media would be more rugged (for off-site storage), the media would meet or exceed long-term archival storage requirements (for reliable retrieval decades into the future), and the data center power and cooling requirements would be considerably lower.[citation needed] The economics of this comparison are more complicated than a single-spindle versus tape drive comparison.

Whether tape's characteristics versus disk are useful or not will depend on the particular data center and its data storage requirements. What has tended to happen in recent years is that the amount of data has grown exponentially[citation needed], with both disk (especially) and tape participating in the growth. In the early twenty-first century solid state storage encroached on disk's previous near-monopoly in random access non-volatile data storage, while disk pushed into tape's territory to some extent, particularly in situations where sequential data access is only a relatively small part of a particular data center's storage requirements.

 

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Very cheap for very large amounts of storage. You can get 3TB for $20

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They are extremely cheap ( an order of magnitude less $ per GB vs a hard drive ) , and they are extremely compact . Plus , they last long , making them well suited to cold storage/backup use cases , where the low speed of tapes aren't a problem.

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Cheap. LTT is one of those kinds of channels that like to keep literally everything they do so they need A LOT of storage. Especially since they are on RED cameras (even though I didn't think that was a very wise decision) 

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12 hours ago, bobbyd52 said:

So I have been seeing alot about tape drives lately, especially on here. My question is, why use them? It sounds like an old technology to me, just like a VHS, or Hard Drive, or something? I dont really know anything about them but are they really any better than SSDs or Hard Drives?

Because backing up the Petabyte off-site by any other means is either prohibitively expensive or painfully slow. The tapes also last a lot longer than any other physical media ... and probably longer than most cloud based solutions as well.

This way Linus can back up entire LMG in a matter of hours, for a couple (hundred) bucks and keep the tapes in a box in his grandma's atttic, without clogging his upload with terabytes of daily backups.

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13 hours ago, bobbyd52 said:

So I have been seeing alot about tape drives lately, especially on here. My question is, why use them? It sounds like an old technology to me, just like a VHS, or Hard Drive, or something? I dont really know anything about them but are they really any better than SSDs or Hard Drives?

While tape technology is old, it's still widely used in business as a backup media, the main advantage is off-site long term backups (tons of companies offer secure tape storage services).

 

@Enderman linked to the Wikipedia article, it has some good information, here are some other articles that explains why it's still in use today ; 

https://www.overlandstorage.com/blog/?p=323
https://www.computerweekly.com/podcast/Tape-backup-vs-disk-backup

 

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Cheap, high capacity and last really long time which makes them really good for backup archive.

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Pretty much what everyone else has said. Tape is still heavily used in enterprise space for archival of data. I know CERN has something like 60PB of tape storage or something stupid like that. 

 

Cheap and stable long term storage. 

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