Apple announces iPhone Xs, Xs Max, and Xr

[Drak3]

Just now, DrMacintosh said:

The difference is Apple still supports their 5 year old phones.

It's not like phones magically stop working. Or that people are somehow missing out on anything super substancial.

 

And most people don't care either, they either hold onto their phones until it stops working regardless of support, or they upgrade every year or two, regardless of support. That argument only really matters to a subset of techies.

[spartaman64]

On 9/14/2018 at 2:00 AM, Vode said:

The user experience is shit IMO, the software overall. Forced Google apps, bloatware, etc. Phone gets laggy over time even without software updates. Especially Samsung ones.

 

I guess it has gotten better with Mid-Range Android phones, I'll give you that. Headphone jack is great too. 

 

For me personally I can't stand Android anymore. It just wastes too much of my time, isn't elegant at all.

opposite experience for me. i almost always have a custom rom and my note 4 seems to be getting faster with each new android version. i had a nightmare experience with my old iphone 5 when i upgraded to ios 7 it lags everywhere: when opening apps, web browsing, etc. and every 2 hours the wifi stops working even though it says im connected and i have to reset network settings and reboot

[DrMacintosh]

2 minutes ago, spartaman64 said:

opposite experience for me. i almost always have a custom rom and my note 4 seems to be getting faster with each new android version. i had a nightmare experience with my old iphone 5 when i upgraded to ios 7 it lags everywhere: when opening apps, web browsing, etc. and every 2 hours the wifi stops working even though it says im connected and i have to reset network settings and reboot

Comparing the user experience of a 32Bit phone from 2012 to a 64Bit phone from 2014. Nice 

[spartaman64]

2 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

Comparing the user experience of a 32Bit phone from 2012 to a 64Bit phone from 2014. Nice 

the note 4 is 32bit

[Drak3]

1 minute ago, DrMacintosh said:

Comparing the user experience of a 32Bit phone from 2012 to a 64Bit phone from 2014. Nice 

US and European versions of the Note 4 were 32bit. Also, don't want people comparing phones two years apart, don't tout that the older phone is supported longer.

[DrMacintosh]

Just now, spartaman64 said:

the note 4 is 32bit

Really? Even though it came out in 2014 and Apple was doing 64Bit in 2013?

 

Kinda sad. 

[Drak3]

1 minute ago, spartaman64 said:

the note 4 is 32bit

Korean version was 64bit, European and US were 32bit.

[Drak3]

Just now, DrMacintosh said:

Really? Even though it came out in 2014 and Apple was doing 64Bit in 2013?

 

Kinda sad. 

Not really. The difference wasn't beneficial then, isn't all that beneficial now.

[DrMacintosh]

2 minutes ago, Drak3 said:

Also, don't want people comparing phones two years apart, don't tout that the older phone is supported longer.

There is a difference in directly comparing two phones from the same time period and directly comparing two phones that are years apart. 

 

Its common sense really.

[DrMacintosh]

1 minute ago, Drak3 said:

Not really. The difference wasn't beneficial then, isn't all that beneficial now.

The difference was paramount to the iPhone 5s which is getting iOS 12 thanks to that 64Bit SoC. The Note 4 has no official support. 

[Drak3]

Just now, DrMacintosh said:

There is a difference in directly comparing two separate phones from the same time period and directly comparing two phones that are years apart. 

Yes. That doesn't make the comparison bad, wrong, or invalid. Especially when you validate it with "our phone is older and will still be supported longer."

1 minute ago, DrMacintosh said:

Its common sense really

No, it's not.

[spartaman64]

2 minutes ago, Drak3 said:

US and European versions of the Note 4 were 32bit. Also, don't want people comparing phones two years apart, don't tout that the older phone is supported longer.

 

 

6 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

Comparing the user experience of a 32Bit phone from 2012 to a 64Bit phone from 2014. Nice 

fine lets compare it to the iphone 6 then. my friend's iphone 6 dies whenever its at 15-30% and when its a hot or cold day he cant use his phone because it says a temperature warning. while im using my phone next to him

[Ya_Mi]

This new processor can process up to 2.1 billions job at a time.

 

Iphone consumer : didn't even know what the fuck does that mean, Here's $1000

[DrMacintosh]

6 minutes ago, spartaman64 said:

my friend's iphone 6 dies whenever its at 15-30%

Time for a new battery for him then. It's really easy to do on your own or costs $30 to replace at Apple. Batteries are consumable items and every cell will need to replaced eventually, including the one in your Note 4 if you haven't replaced it already. 

 

6 minutes ago, spartaman64 said:

and when its a hot or cold day he cant use his phone because it says a temperature warning. while im using my phone next to him

Every phone has an operational temperature range, some manufactures don't care and will let your phones SoC condense water onto the PCB, others won't. Same goes for heat, some won't care that heat literally kills batteries and others will. 

 

[Drak3]

1 minute ago, DrMacintosh said:

It's really easy to do on your own

No, it's not.

[spartaman64]

6 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

Time for a new battery for him then. It's really easy to do on your own or costs $30 to replace at Apple. Batteries are consumable items and every cell will need to replaced eventually, including the one in your Note 4 if you haven't replaced it already. 

 

Every phone has an operational temperature range, some manufactures don't care and will let your phones SoC condense water onto the PCB, others won't. 

 

well did my phone explode? and theres no excuse you can give for the high temperature warning it just has bad cooling. also considering the apple store charged me 70 dollars for them to stick a screw driver into my imac power button and wiggle it around i doubt its a 30 dollar battery replacement 

this is my power button after they "fixed" it. sure you can press it now but you have to use every ounce of strength in your hand 

[DrMacintosh]

Just now, Drak3 said:

No, it's not.

A P2 screw driver, a suction cup, and a magnetic parts tray is all you need to replace an iPhone battery. Anyone with a brain could do it in 15min max. 

[Drak3]

Speaking of Note 4s and Batteries, @spartaman64, you know of any good units I can buy?

Just now, DrMacintosh said:

A P2 screw driver, a suction cup, and a magnetic parts tray is all you need to replace an iPhone battery. Anyone with a brain could do it in 15min max. 

Here's what you need to do a Note 4.

Pull off back cover with fingernail, starting at the notch. Pull out old battery, put in new battery. Replace cover.

 

Anything more than that is not easy.

[DrMacintosh]

6 minutes ago, spartaman64 said:

also considering the apple store charged me 70 dollars for them to stick a screw driver into my imac power button and wiggle it around i doubt its a 30 dollar battery replacement 

$29

[spartaman64]

7 minutes ago, Drak3 said:

Speaking of Note 4s and Batteries, @spartaman64, you know of any good units I can buy?

Here's what you need to do a Note 4.

Pull off back cover with fingernail, starting at the notch. Pull out old battery, put in new battery. Replace cover.

 

Anything more than that is not easy.

are you looking for a regular sized battery? theres samsung oem ones and anker ones. i have a tqthl extended battery which makes the phone thicker but it can last me two days

[spartaman64]

9 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

$29

thats only because of lawsuits. you cant rely on that every generation

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-switch/wp/2017/12/28/french-lawsuit-filed-against-apple-for-slowing-down-iphones-could-come-with-jail-time/?utm_term=.10a69a1985c1

and why the hell is there a risk of a loss of data wtf

[Drak3]

1 minute ago, spartaman64 said:

theres samsung oem ones

No one (that's legitimate) sells those anymore. And reviews of most 3rd party ones on market go one way: phone killed after battery swap.

[spartaman64]

1 minute ago, Drak3 said:

No one (that's legitimate) sells those anymore. And reviews of most 3rd party ones on market go one way: phone killed after battery swap.

yep you have to be careful but i trust the anker brand

[DrMacintosh]

3 minutes ago, spartaman64 said:

thats only because of lawsuits. you cant rely on that every generation

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-switch/wp/2017/12/28/french-lawsuit-filed-against-apple-for-slowing-down-iphones-could-come-with-jail-time/?utm_term=.10a69a1985c1

Apple implemented this battery replacement program for all iPhones newer than the 5s before these lawsuites closed in. It’s been around for a year and a program like this will come around again when iPhone X style iPhones start needing battery replacements. 

[Drak3]

Just now, DrMacintosh said:

Apple implemented this battery replacement program for all iPhones newer than the 5s before these lawsuites closed in

No, they didn't.