AMD reports Threadripper 2990 is upto 50% faster than the Intel 7980

[leadeater]

5 minutes ago, pas008 said:

see post above

The HEDT CPU is going to be getting around the 5000 points mark like that 8180 OC, that's a 33% OC on water. Stock might not even be quite that good but still close, the arch and process just can't do much more than that at such high core counts without severe thermal and power limitations.

 

Also all these Xeons are soldered and as such total best case thermal wise, I don't doubt the rumors that Intel will be soldering these upcoming ones as I just don't see it being possible to not and have competitive clocks.

[Taf the Ghost]

Unboxing Videos have started showing up.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Quadriplegic]

 

 

[pas008]

4 minutes ago, leadeater said:

The HEDT CPU is going to be getting around the 5000 points mark like that 8180 OC, that's a 33% OC on water. Stock might not even be quite that good but still close, the arch and process just can't do much more than that at such high core counts without severe thermal and power limitations.

 

Also all these Xeons are soldered and as such total best case thermal wise, I don't doubt the rumors that Intel will be soldering these upcoming ones as I just don't see it being possible to not and have competitive clocks.

no going to argue with you but we both know server grade vs enthusiast grade never matches up completely in performance/heat/etc because things are tweaked

[mynameisjuan]

1 minute ago, Taf the Ghost said:

Unboxing Videos have started showing up.

 

Honestly what is the point of having a CPU unboxing video? 

[MMKing]

10 minutes ago, pas008 said:

ok but that is on the server

threadripper is on enthusiast which have higher clocks than epyc

we do not know what the enthusiast 28 core is going to clock at or scores

 

that comparison would be like comparing 7980 vs epyc in single threaded

You're not addressing the real point here. As i stated later on in the post you quoted earlier.

 

''Even if it does not retain the performance throne, the price is insane and i don't think AMD is selling it at low margins.''

 

The performance of the 2990WX is not that important, it doesn't have to beat Intel's flagship CPU. The point is that Intel is being forced to take their golden goose behind the barn and slaughter it. With a 32 core CPU at less than 2000 dollars, Intel can't keep selling 28 core CPUs at 10 000 dollars. Who knows what is next for AMDs Epyc lineup?

[Taf the Ghost]

1 minute ago, mynameisjuan said:

Honestly what is the point of having a CPU unboxing video? 

Have you seen the box?

[GoldenLag]

1 minute ago, mynameisjuan said:

Honestly what is the point of having a CPU unboxing video? 

Have you seen the box?

 

If it was a classic blue or red box i would agree...

 

But just look at it

[GoldenLag]

1 minute ago, Taf the Ghost said:

Have you seen the box?

 

Just now, GoldenLag said:

Have you seen the box?

Beat me to it, dammit

[mynameisjuan]

2 minutes ago, Taf the Ghost said:

Have you seen the box?

 

2 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

Have you seen the box?

 

If it was a classic blue or red box i would agree...

 

But just look at it

Dont get me wrong the box is legit. But give me some damn benchmarks!!!!! lol

[leadeater]

12 minutes ago, pas008 said:

no going to argue with you but we both know server grade vs enthusiast grade never matches up completely in performance/heat/etc because things are tweaked

Yep which is exactly why that 8180 OC is really good to look at, 33% OC is extremely good especially for BLK only OC. It's not like it's a AIO or anything either to get that.

 

 

Very sexy .

 

The only actual tweaks that matter is the clocks, disabling ECC does nothing heat/power/performance wise. Actual higher stock multiplier/clocks and unlock multiplier is obviously better than BLK OC but if you're hitting thermal or power limits it makes no difference between the two, it's just way harder to get stable clocks using BLK because it throws off ram and PCIe clocks as well.

 

Edit:

Plus I keep forgetting there is an LTT CES video covering one of these 28 core samples on custom loop water with the unlocked multiplier and a CB run shown.

6109 on water OC, so 5000 stock does seem reasonable to me.

[MMKing]

1 minute ago, mynameisjuan said:

 

Dont get me wrong the box is legit. But give me some damn benchmarks!!!!! lol

NDA

[Quadriplegic]

1 minute ago, mynameisjuan said:

 

Dont get me wrong the box is legit. But give me some damn benchmarks!!!!! lol

Not allowed to do until official launch I'm afraid

[mynameisjuan]

1 minute ago, MMKing said:

NDA

 

Just now, Quadriplegic said:

Not allowed to do until official launch I'm afraid

I know that, but dont tease with an unboxing.

[Taf the Ghost]

4 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

 

Beat me to it, dammit

I got a good laugh out of it.

[Taf the Ghost]

It's still sort of nuts that less than a year ago, 10 cores was the top in the Desktop space, and, as of this month, 12c is the bottom of AMD's SKU stack for HEDT. LOL.

[bcredeur97]

isn't intel doing a 28 core Sylake X chip later this year to compete?

[Taf the Ghost]

1 minute ago, bcredeur97 said:

isn't intel doing a 28 core Sylake X chip later this year to compete?

Yes. The Intel Furnace Series will be a hot commodity. 

[The Benjamins]

20 minutes ago, mynameisjuan said:

 

I know that, but dont tease with an unboxing.

would you rather have a announcement/reveal video without a unboxing?

[leadeater]

9 minutes ago, The Benjamins said:

would you rather have a announcement/reveal video without a unboxing?

Yep, see Gamer Nexus video .

[The Benjamins]

21 minutes ago, leadeater said:

Yep, see Gamer Nexus video .

They are not bound by a NDA, and also release more information then allowed.

The info was nice but other videos where more interesting to watch, GN was nice to listen to.

[Master Disaster]

So does anyone have any idea when NDA lifts?

 

Would be nice to find out if AMD (or maybe even WCCF are lying) though for whatever reason I actually believe these numbers are not a million miles away.

[leadeater]

9 minutes ago, The Benjamins said:

They are not bound by a NDA, and also release more information then allowed.

The info was nice but other videos where more interesting to watch, GN was nice to listen to.

I still preferred the GN video to the unboxings, 1 picture of the box is all and need (and have already). I'd rather just hear some details about the product even without benchmarks than watch a bunch of fumbling with knives and boxes.

[leadeater]

8 minutes ago, Master Disaster said:

So does anyone have any idea when NDA lifts?

 

Would be nice to find out if AMD (or maybe even WCCF are lying) though for whatever reason I actually believe these numbers are not a million miles away.

13th, the day you can buy them/launch day.

Preorder don't count

[GDRRiley]

7 hours ago, NelizMastr said:

It's a very small segment with low yields, 

nope, with how AMD makes chips try 70-80% of chips being able to be used as threadripper.