I'm from china ! 我是中国大陆人,I have a matter

[bilibili_44155151]

7 hours ago, Wh0_Am_1 said:

Yeah, once again, the CCP doesn't want you to get around their filters, they crush and block VPNs, they want to brainwash you, and they want you to be a robot and build the economy so that they can increase their influence, and control over the world's population, So yes VPNs are a no go, but you might be able to get through with Tor, if you can find, and download it. Tor is a browser maintained by the US Navy to allow for communication with people whom live under the rule of hostile and evil regimes, it encrypts multiple layers, and then masks your IP it is like a more secure version of a VPN, the only issues that you may face slower speeds, due to the many layers of secure encryption, but probably the greatest issue is finding the browser itself and downloading it.

 

（翻译通过谷歌翻译）是的，中共不希望你绕过他们的过滤器，他们粉碎和阻止虚拟专用网，他们想洗脑，他们希望你成为一个机器人，并建立经济，以便 他们可以增加他们的影响力，并控制世界上的人口，所以是VPN是不行的，但是如果你能找到并下载它，你或许能够通过Tor。 Tor是一个由美国海军维护的浏览器，可以与处于敌对和邪恶政权统治下的人进行交流，它可以对多层进行加密，然后掩盖你的IP，就像一个更安全的VPN版本，唯一的问题是 由于多层安全加密，您可能会面临较慢的速度，但最大的问题可能是找到浏览器本身并下载它。
 

欢迎你过来中国，特别是在夜晚或凌晨的时候

[DeLorian]

You could use something like NordVPN or Astrill, they use alternative domains in order to bypass the Great Firewall of China. My friend is in China and Nord works fine for him for example. Try searching for them in your search engines.

[dainomas_theos]

关于国内使用ＶＰＮ的话你可看一下这个连接：

https://www.vpndada.com/best-vpns-for-china-cn/

没记错的话，国内是打的开的。里面有挺详细的介绍与测评，自己看一下吧。

还有，你可以关注这个B站主播

https://space.bilibili.com/108142407/#/video

他是用谷歌的云计算服务翻墙的。而且，他好像在这个视频里教你如何翻墙。

https://www.bilibili.com/video/av19479186

不知，对否。错了别怪我，自己找一下吧。我自己是用油管看的，而且这个视频比较极客请做好心里准备。

 

如果，你用平果手机的话你可以把自己的苹果商店设为国外的商店然后下载这个软件：

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/vpn-proxy-master-wifi-vpn/id1025707485?mt=8

去年在国内用过，不知现在有没有被封。看视频的话偶尔会卡。

安卓的话，本来可以用opera VPN的。不过后来，opera官方把它关了。

所以，兄弟自己看着办吧。

 

For the english speaking folks looking forward to use vpn in china your can take a look in this link.

https://www.vpndada.com/

hope your find it useful, and it should solve most of your problem and queries.

 

[bilibili_up_MCZM]

20 hours ago, dainomas_theos said:

关于国内使用ＶＰＮ的话你可看一下这个连接：

https://www.vpndada.com/best-vpns-for-china-cn/

没记错的话，国内是打的开的。里面有挺详细的介绍与测评，自己看一下吧。

还有，你可以关注这个B站主播

https://space.bilibili.com/108142407/#/video

他是用谷歌的云计算服务翻墙的。而且，他好像在这个视频里教你如何翻墙。

https://www.bilibili.com/video/av19479186

不知，对否。错了别怪我，自己找一下吧。我自己是用油管看的，而且这个视频比较极客请做好心里准备。

 

如果，你用平果手机的话你可以把自己的苹果商店设为国外的商店然后下载这个软件：

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/vpn-proxy-master-wifi-vpn/id1025707485?mt=8

去年在国内用过，不知现在有没有被封。看视频的话偶尔会卡。

安卓的话，本来可以用opera VPN的。不过后来，opera官方把它关了。

所以，兄弟自己看着办吧。

 

For the english speaking folks looking forward to use vpn in china your can take a look in this link.

https://www.vpndada.com/

hope your find it useful, and it should solve most of your problem and queries.

 

B站主播互粉要不要？

[bilibili_up_MCZM]

On 2018/6/8 at 7:30 PM, bilibili_44155151 said:

欢迎你过来中国，特别是在夜晚或凌晨的时候

B站主播互粉一起吧！我B站UID：107916894
https://space.bilibili.com/107916894/

[Syntaxvgm]

On 6/6/2018 at 10:02 PM, Princess Cadence said:

You're in violation of the Community Standards though

 

There's a whole law in China that forbids the access to YouTube...

  Reveal hidden contents

 

I'm pretty sure the rule about 'monitoring software' refers to exactly what it says- stuff installed locally by a school or company, not the great firewall of china lol. they even advertise products to get around this.

[wasab]

On 6/7/2018 at 2:02 AM, LoGiCalDrm said:

 

Political reasons. Pm me if you need more details on why. Short of it is that everything which could be used to criticize government and their actions is banned. Or could be used by opposition to deliver messages which show something else than pre-approved propaganda.

 

 

Hongkong was British outpost until 1997. And it has retained partial independence. I think you can access western services and platforms like YouTube, but content is still partially censored.

Hong Kong SAR doesn't censor anything, not by the SAR government anyway. What happens is that many media and bussinesses self censored because they risked huge backlash from the pro-beijing factions and their sympathizers if they are too overly critical. They will lose all busssiness opportunities and clients on the Chinese mainland too.

[wasab]

On 6/7/2018 at 11:37 PM, Wh0_Am_1 said:

Yeah, once again, the CCP doesn't want you to get around their filters, they crush and block VPNs, they want to brainwash you, and they want you to be a robot and build the economy so that they can increase their influence, and control over the world's population, So yes VPNs are a no go, but you might be able to get through with Tor, if you can find, and download it. Tor is a browser maintained by the US Navy to allow for communication with people whom live under the rule of hostile and evil regimes, it encrypts multiple layers, and then masks your IP it is like a more secure version of a VPN, the only issues that you may face slower speeds, due to the many layers of secure encryption, but probably the greatest issue is finding the browser itself and downloading it.

 

（翻译通过谷歌翻译）是的，中共不希望你绕过他们的过滤器，他们粉碎和阻止虚拟专用网，他们想洗脑，他们希望你成为一个机器人，并建立经济，以便 他们可以增加他们的影响力，并控制世界上的人口，所以是VPN是不行的，但是如果你能找到并下载它，你或许能够通过Tor。 Tor是一个由美国海军维护的浏览器，可以与处于敌对和邪恶政权统治下的人进行交流，它可以对多层进行加密，然后掩盖你的IP，就像一个更安全的VPN版本，唯一的问题是 由于多层安全加密，您可能会面临较慢的速度，但最大的问题可能是找到浏览器本身并下载它。
 

Stop drinking the commiephobic Kool aid. Tor was originally developed by the US navy to encrypt their data from hostile foregin militaries, not to protect anyone's anonymity. In fact, American NSA runs many of Tor's relay servers in order to spy on people, both foregin and domestic. 

 

OP thinks isp blocks VPN which is true. Chinese isp are all state owned. They can block VPNs on whim. Many do not work. Finding a realiable one that works can be a bit frustrating.

[Syntaxvgm]

11 minutes ago, wasab said:

Stop drinking the commiephobic Kool aid. Tor was originally developed by the US navy to encrypt their data from hostile foregin militaries, not to protect anyone's anonymity. In fact, American NSA runs many of Tor's relay servers in order to spy on people, both foregin and domestic. 

 

OP thinks isp blocks VPN which is true. Chinese isp are all state owned. They can block VPNs on whim. Many do not work. Finding a realiable one that works can be a bit frustrating.

on this, I recommend finding a vps provider that's not blocked then running oepnvpn, which will give you a  unique probably not blocked ip

[Peskanova]

Dudes think for a second, dont tell him how to connect to youtube or use something to avoid vpn blockage, what hapen if a kid that doesnt know how to cover his traces gets caught for doing things that you helped and he cant do because he doesnt know how to do it.
China is fucked but dont do those things to a child, he doesnt know the consequences.

Community standards are there for a reason.

[wasab]

28 minutes ago, Peskanova said:

Dudes think for a second, dont tell him how to connect to youtube or use something to avoid vpn blockage, what hapen if a kid that doesnt know how to cover his traces gets caught for doing things that you helped and he cant do because he doesnt know how to do it.
China is fucked but dont do those things to a child, he doesnt know the consequences.

Community standards are there for a reason.

Using VPN in China is mostly safe. In fact, it is a regular offered service in chinese hotels and many Chinese Universities also use them to access foregin academic sites like Google scholar. Just don't use it to publish highly visible and critical contents of the government or sell state secrets. It is common sense. 

[LogicalDrm]

53 minutes ago, wasab said:

Just don't use it to publish highly visible and critical contents of the government or sell state secrets. It is common sense. 

 

Common sense to us living with freedom of expression and (mostly) free press. Maybe not so common knowledge for teens who are taught by communist goverment, fed by press under strict control and such. It might not be as bad as it was 30 years ago, and certainly not North Korea. But we still can't give out help if its going to be potentially harmful to someone.

 

If you have more inside knowledge, if this would be common sense to tech-savy teen in China, then disregard.

[Crazycatman]

1 hour ago, LoGiCalDrm said:

 

Common sense to us living with freedom of expression and (mostly) free press. Maybe not so common knowledge for teens who are taught by communist goverment, fed by press under strict control and such. It might not be as bad as it was 30 years ago, and certainly not North Korea. But we still can't give out help if its going to be potentially harmful to someone.

 

If you have more inside knowledge, if this would be common sense to tech-savy teen in China, then disregard.

I think the best common sense is to not think about this kinda stuff, but if they happen to, always remember there will be a outcome of any thing you do. and the outcome of everything is not always good.

[DildorTheDecent]

>OP is actually a commie infiltrator and plans to destroy the west by first taking over a tech forum all in the service of the CCP.

 

You're not fooling me kid.

 

2smart

 

[I-r0k]

I'm like 95% sure this is illegal in China.....

[wasab]

1 hour ago, I-r0k said:

I'm like 95% sure this is illegal in China.....

Officially yeah but no cops is gonna waste resources hunting down a kid who only watches YouTube video. Like FBI who won't waste resources to bust people who use deep web black market to merely sell Pokemon trading cards, Chinese police won't chase someone down for watching tech videos. They have more dangerous dissidents like Tibetans and xinjiang uygurs to imprision you know.

[AlTech]

On 6/7/2018 at 7:02 AM, LoGiCalDrm said:

Hongkong was British outpost until 1997. And it has retained partial independence. I think you can access western services and platforms like YouTube, but content is still partially censored.

This is pretty much true. YouTube, Google Services, Microsoft Services, Apple services etc work just fine. It also has the regular version of Steam (not the Chinese version). Some services such as YouTube Red/YouTube sponsorships may not be purchasable there but basically most things should work.

 

The only notable internet censorship in Hong Kong other than the usual Copyright stuff is to do with the creation and distribution of pornographic content.

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Pursuant to the Control of Obscene and Indecent Articles Ordinance (Cap 390), it is an offense to publish an obscene article. Publication covers distribution, circulation, selling, hiring, giving, or lending the obscene article. Distribution by e-mail falls within the definition of distribution, as does the placing of an obscene article on a website. Distribution does not require any element of financial gain. The definition includes "anything consisting of or containing material to be read or looked at or both read and looked at, any sound recording, and any film, video-tape, disc, or other record of a picture or pictures". An article will be considered obscene if, by reason by its obscenity, "it is not suitable to be published to any person". Obscenity includes "violence, depravity, and repulsiveness". 

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_censorship_in_Hong_Kong

[Wh0_Am_1]

10 hours ago, wasab said:

Stop drinking the commiephobic Kool aid. Tor was originally developed by the US navy to encrypt their data from hostile foregin militaries, not to protect anyone's anonymity. In fact, American NSA runs many of Tor's relay servers in order to spy on people, both foregin and domestic. 

 

OP thinks isp blocks VPN which is true. Chinese isp are all state owned. They can block VPNs on whim. Many do not work. Finding a realiable one that works can be a bit frustrating.

Yes, but they now have better systems, the only reason they maintain tor (which is now more useful for the general populace than military purposes) now is for things like whistle-blowers and etc.

 

5 hours ago, wasab said:

Officially yeah but no cops is gonna waste resources hunting down a kid who only watches YouTube video. Like FBI who won't waste resources to bust people who use deep web black market to merely sell Pokemon trading cards, Chinese police won't chase someone down for watching tech videos. They have more dangerous dissidents like Tibetans and xinjiang uygurs to imprision you know.

They may not send cops after him, but it may be more difficult for him to get a passport, housing, loans, high speed internet, and the like in the future due to a system called sesame credit. Here is a simplified YouTube video on the matter. 

 

[wasab]

20 minutes ago, Wh0_Am_1 said:

They may not send cops after him, but it may be more difficult for him to get a passport, housing, loans, high speed internet, and the like in the future due to a system called sesame credit. Here is a simplified YouTube video on the matter. 

 

China isn't high tech enough for that. Much of its population do not yet have access to eletricity, running water, or televsion. There is no way to create a digitalized system like that.

 

In the developed high tech eastern costal cities like shenzhe and shanghai, whose human development index rival that of the developed west, such system could be implemented but elsewhere no such thing exists.

[Wh0_Am_1]

33 minutes ago, wasab said:

China isn't high tech enough for that. Much of its population do not yet have access to eletricity, running water, or televsion. There is no way to create a digitalized system like that.

 

In the developed high tech eastern costal cities whose human development index rival that of the developed west, such system could be implemented but elsewhere no such thing exists.

Well actually... nearly 2/3 of China population lives in cities and it is estimated that ~60% of China's population owns a smartphone. And China is a leader in social media, some of their social media platforms are even more popular their Western counterparts, in full reality it will not take very long for them to widely implement the system, and much of the required network based infrastructure is already in place. The CCP could implement this in a matter of years and target the ones that they want/ need to target to stay in power.

[wasab]

5 hours ago, LoGiCalDrm said:

 

Common sense to us living with freedom of expression and (mostly) free press. Maybe not so common knowledge for teens who are taught by communist goverment, fed by press under strict control and such. It might not be as bad as it was 30 years ago, and certainly not North Korea. But we still can't give out help if its going to be potentially harmful to someone.

 

If you have more inside knowledge, if this would be common sense to tech-savy teen in China, then disregard.

Perhaps we shouldn't be ranting about how Chinese government is an evil oppressor and how they are plotting  to take over the world like some posters suggest here if we are so worry about OP's safety.

 

Visiting foregin sites in China is fine. However if one is visiting foregin sites only to talk shit about the government, this is a problem. Doing so will kick any such offending sites outside China's fire wall. 

[dainomas_theos]

15 hours ago, bilibili_up_MCZM said:

B站主播互粉一起吧！我B站UID：107916894
https://space.bilibili.com/107916894/

我不是B站主播╮(╯▽╰)╭。

那老哥的视屏不错，而且刚好他发的视频是关于翻墙的。