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Report: Google Assistant is most efficient assistant, Siri is least

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50 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

What else would it be that you dont stmble upom by accident that is also rememberable and linked to google?

It didn't have to be linked to Google. They could have come up with an assistant name. Siri and Alexa work great. So does Cortona, although that has a link to Microsoft via Halo.

 

Four hard syllables isn't an acceptable activation phrase. You want something that rolls off the tongue.

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Apple fans responses to this news are really funny. 

They know that siri is trash but they are clearly trying to find reasons to say it's not lol

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19 hours ago, <Aleks> said:

I call bs on cortana.

yeah agreed, no way cortana works better than my google home 

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And I just want to disable Google assistant on all my devices but can't find a clear way to do so.

 

Ok google, how can I disable you?

 

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yes ok it's disabled but still reacts to "ok google" asking me if i want to activate it... :| tiring

 

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20 hours ago, Dabombinable said:

There is a reason for Siri being the butt of so many jokes across the internet and entertainment.

It doesn't look like I can launch that app.

Grammar and spelling is not indicative of intelligence/knowledge.  Not having the same opinion does not always mean lack of understanding.  

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24 minutes ago, Red Hardware said:

Apple fans responses to this news are really funny. 

They know that siri is trash but they are clearly trying to find reasons to say it's not lol

It's mind numbing isn't it?   If something is shit you call it shit, if something is good you call it good. Why try to defend something being shit just because of who makes it?

Grammar and spelling is not indicative of intelligence/knowledge.  Not having the same opinion does not always mean lack of understanding.  

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49 minutes ago, mr moose said:

It's mind numbing isn't it?   If something is shit you call it shit, if something is good you call it good. Why try to defend something being shit just because of who makes it?

cause you decide to accept a corp as a cult. just look at scientology for reference, they're reaching that lvl of stupid 

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Anti-iOS starter pack:

 

"lol just wait till the fanboyz see this"  "Apple fans responses to this news so funny"

 

"Google comes first in study, btw Siri came last I'd like to point that out"  

 

"[Insert benchmark that isn't GeekBench to compare phones]" 

 

You guys are just as bad as the die-hard Apple fanboys

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2 hours ago, JoostinOnline said:

Four hard syllables isn't an acceptable activation phrase. You want something that rolls off the tongue.

How is "hey Google" 4 syllables?

Hey = one.

Google = two.

1+2=3.

 

Actually, isn't the activation phrase for Cortana "hey Cortana"? That's 4 syllables.

Hey-Cor-ta-na

 

And to activate Siri there's 3 syllables.

Hey-Si-ri

 

I think you can activate Alexa by just saying the name, but that's also three syllables, just like hey Google.

A-lek-sa

 

 

 

 

2 minutes ago, RorzNZ said:

Anti-iOS starter pack:

 

"lol just wait till the fanboyz see this" "haha iPhones are so obsolete my phone has 12GB RAM"

 

"I like to control more on my phone"  "Apple fans responses to this news so funny"

 

"Google comes first in study, btw Siri came last I'd like to point that out"   "can't believe Apple fans are soooo blind! How can they not see the cult they are buying into STUPID"

 

"[Insert benchmark that isn't GeekBench to compare phones]" "iPhones cost so much why do people buy them >:( my $150 Android does the same thing"

 

You guys are just as bad as the die-hard Apple fanboys

Nobody in this thread are saying anything even remotely similar to that.

Stop with the strawman arguments please. You're just looking silly.

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8 minutes ago, LAwLz said:

 

Nobody in this thread are saying anything even remotely similar to that.

Stop with the strawman arguments please. You're just looking silly.

I'll cut it down but paraphrasing what people have said. Sorry but I am just frustrated of seeing this every time there is a Mac thread. 

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6 minutes ago, RorzNZ said:

I'll cut it down but paraphrasing what people have said. Sorry but I am just frustrated of seeing this every time there is a Mac thread. 

After scanning through the thread, these are the two posts.

 

20 hours ago, suicidalfranco said:

"it's not about who's best, it's about the ecosystem"

 

- Apple fanboys coming soon in this thread

 

EDIT: would love to see Mycroft on that chart, just to get an introspect of it's evolution YoY and see how does a open source, community powered idea evolves in time compared to the rest of the industry.

 

Hardly a diehard fanboy comment.

and:

2 hours ago, Red Hardware said:

Apple fans responses to this news are really funny. 

They know that siri is trash but they are clearly trying to find reasons to say it's not lol

 

Which is an actually comentary on actual posts made in the thread by apple supporters.

 

 

And lets not even mention the Cortana results where more contested with a lot more vigor.

 

Things just are the way they are, no need to get worked up over it. Especially not over something as mundane as voice assistant.

 

 

EDIT: and of course there was my post which was a response to the commentary and a question, hardly taking the piss out of fanboys.

 

Grammar and spelling is not indicative of intelligence/knowledge.  Not having the same opinion does not always mean lack of understanding.  

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22 minutes ago, LAwLz said:

How is "hey Google" 4 syllables?

Hey = one.

Google = two.

1+2=3.

I didn't realize they'd changed it. That's much better. It used to be "Okay, Google". Say that clearly and you'll see what I mean about the hard syllables. If you weren't clear on every syllable then it wouldn't register. I even tried to use the "voice training" option to let me slur them together, but it didn't work. A lot of people had trouble with it.

 

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1 minute ago, JoostinOnline said:

I didn't realize they'd changed it. That's much better. It used to be "Okay, Google". If you weren't clear on every syllable then it wouldn't register. I even tried to use the "voice training" option to let me slur them together, but it didn't work. A lot of people had trouble with it.

Oh, shit never mind...

You're right, it is "ok Google" which is 4 syllables.

 

Apparently the "hey Google" phrase is fairly new and doesn't work on all phones yet.

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On some devices, you can also say "Hey Google." Any settings for "Ok Google" also apply to "Hey Google." 

 

The Verge - Google is slowly letting people say 'Hey Google' to activate its Assistant on their phones

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1 minute ago, LAwLz said:

Oh, shit never mind...

You're right, it is "ok Google" which is 4 syllables.

 

Apparently the "hey Google" phrase is fairly new and doesn't work on all phones yet.

 

The Verge - Google is slowly letting people say 'Hey Google' to activate its Assistant on their phones

Do you see what I mean about it being frustrating to say though? The mouth movements and breath exertions necessary make it tough to say quickly and clearly.

 

I still think they should come up with a name for their assistant. I don't use voice assistants outside of Alexa on my Echo (and then for nothing private, just controlling the lights and Spotify), but I notice people seem to like using names for voice assistants. Especially less tech savvy people.

 

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1 hour ago, mr moose said:

It's mind numbing isn't it?   If something is shit you call it shit, if something is good you call it good. Why try to defend something being shit just because of who makes it?

Fanboys are fanboys, you can't convince them. You can't argue with them with facts.For them, facts are things they like and thats it. For a apple fan who bought a home pod, siri is the best assistant but for a normal person, best assistant is one who get things right more often.

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2 hours ago, AntiTrust said:

yeah agreed, no way cortana works better than my google home 

Well, have you tried it?

 

Honestly, i never bothered with Cortana, as i don't see a reason to when i am sitting at the freaking PC myself.

After this report i tried it tho. And it is indeed pretty damn accurate. I can see these numbers holding true.

 

That being said: I still won't use it, as i am sitting at the PC, so why would i.

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1 minute ago, JoostinOnline said:

Do you see what I mean about it being frustrating to say though? The mouth movements and breath exertions necessary make it tough to say quickly and clearly.

 

I still think they should come up with a name for their assistant. I don't use voice assistants outside of Alexa on my Echo (and then for nothing private, just controlling the lights and Spotify), but I notice people seem to like using names for voice assistants. Especially less tech savvy people.

 

I kinda agree with you, okay google is somehow hard to say. Hey google is much better. Also i think they chose okay and hey google because google is known name for almost everyone even for less tech savvy ppl. It's hard to inform normal ppl that this virtual assistant with this name is from google but with okay google, everyone realize that

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1 hour ago, JoostinOnline said:

Do you see what I mean about it being frustrating to say though? The mouth movements and breath exertions necessary make it tough to say quickly and clearly.

 

I still think they should come up with a name for their assistant. I don't use voice assistants outside of Alexa on my Echo (and then for nothing private, just controlling the lights and Spotify), but I notice people seem to like using names for voice assistants. Especially less tech savvy people.

 

They didn't make a name specifically as a way to combat the verbal abuse that had been prevalent in early interactions with Siri and Alexa. It's the same reason why if you comment about Google Assistant in ways directly relating to her in an aggressive, violent, or sexual manner, she dodges, deflects, and refuses to comment.

 

As for the code word, you *don't* want it to roll off the tongue. You *do* want hard sounds that are hard to say. Hard sounds are far easier for audio recognition software to differentiate and drastically decreases the chances of accidental activations or false positives.

 

There's a reason why every voice assistant other than Siri has hard consonant sounds in it's name.

Cor-Ta-Na

a-Le-Xa

Goo-Gle

All three of them have two or three hard consonant sounds specifically for that reason.

 

1 hour ago, LAwLz said:

Oh, shit never mind...

You're right, it is "ok Google" which is 4 syllables.

 

Apparently the "hey Google" phrase is fairly new and doesn't work on all phones yet.

 

The Verge - Google is slowly letting people say 'Hey Google' to activate its Assistant on their phones

To the best of my knowledge, "Hey Google" currently works for every phone if the phone is unlocked and listening as it's built into the Google App. Edit: Assuming you have your Google app and Play Services up to date and aren't using a really old version.

 

It also works with every Google Home.

 

Hey Google may or may not work while your device is locked/asleep, depending on the sensor hub/DSP hardware it has, and whether it has firmware from your OEM for low power detection while your phone is asleep.

 

Edit: Yeah just checked with a number of my devices to make sure I wasn't misremembering. Hey Google works while they're awake, even if they don't claim to support it and haven't retrained your voice model for Hey Google yet.

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2 hours ago, JoostinOnline said:

Do you see what I mean about it being frustrating to say though? The mouth movements and breath exertions necessary make it tough to say quickly and clearly.

 

I still think they should come up with a name for their assistant. I don't use voice assistants outside of Alexa on my Echo (and then for nothing private, just controlling the lights and Spotify), but I notice people seem to like using names for voice assistants. Especially less tech savvy people.

 

Google's entrance into our daily conversations forced a need for an additional trigger. "Hey Google" might suffice as it rolls out further, but "Okay Google" is really not that bad. Anything that limits incidental triggering of the assistant is fine with me.

Really surprised by Cortana, but I can say that most of us probably haven't tested it enough to really be sure, as most people complain about privacy and turn that sort of stuff off.

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They act like people use voice assistants though

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3 hours ago, Rattenmann said:

Well, have you tried it?

 

Honestly, i never bothered with Cortana, as i don't see a reason to when i am sitting at the freaking PC myself.

After this report i tried it tho. And it is indeed pretty damn accurate. I can see these numbers holding true.

 

That being said: I still won't use it, as i am sitting at the PC, so why would i.

yeah I have, it is about the same difference between using bing and google. 

 

o wait that because it uses bing instead of google.... xD

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3 minutes ago, BuckGup said:

They act like people use voice assistants though

I got a google home mini to try it out, thinking it would be a waste of time. Then I keep using it more and more.... Its gotten to the point where I ask it to do simple simple math problems instead of solving myself now (hey google whats 7 * 12) 

 

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10 minutes ago, AntiTrust said:

I got a google home mini to try it out, thinking it would be a waste of time. Then I keep using it more and more.... Its gotten to the point where I ask it to do simple simple math problems instead of solving myself now (hey google whats 7 * 12) 

 

Oh huh that's bad then lol

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2 hours ago, Sniperfox47 said:

They didn't make a name specifically as a way to combat the verbal abuse that had been prevalent in early interactions with Siri and Alexa. It's the same reason why if you comment about Google Assistant in ways directly relating to her in an aggressive, violent, or sexual manner, she dodges, deflects, and refuses to comment.

 

As for the code word, you *don't* want it to roll off the tongue. You *do* want hard sounds that are hard to say. Hard sounds are far easier for audio recognition software to differentiate and drastically decreases the chances of accidental activations or false positives.

 

There's a reason why every voice assistant other than Siri has hard consonant sounds in it's name.

Cor-Ta-Na

a-Le-Xa

Goo-Gle

All three of them have two or three hard consonant sounds specifically for that reason.

 

To the best of my knowledge, "Hey Google" currently works for every phone if the phone is unlocked and listening as it's built into the Google App. Edit: Assuming you have your Google app and Play Services up to date and aren't using a really old version.

 

It also works with every Google Home.

 

Hey Google may or may not work while your device is locked/asleep, depending on the sensor hub/DSP hardware it has, and whether it has firmware from your OEM for low power detection while your phone is asleep.

 

Edit: Yeah just checked with a number of my devices to make sure I wasn't misremembering. Hey Google works while they're awake, even if they don't claim to support it and haven't retrained your voice model for Hey Google yet.

I still hate the Google activation phrase. It's very clunky to have to say 'hey Google' to activate my home mini. Alexa is a lot easier to say.

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How is it bad?

Your brains turns to mush

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