Purchases that don't become obsolete

[YellowJersey]

I can definitely sympathise. I value longevity, particularly since a lot of my needs don't require much raw power.

 

 My philosophy is:  It's not obsolete if it still does everything you need/want it to do.

 My current project is trying to get my Lenovo T500, which I bought in 2009 and pretty much maxed out the specs on, to the 10 year mark. The old girl stopped being able to run Windows 7 back in 2015, but Linux Mint has given her a new lease on life. I think she'll make it to 10 years, though one of the hinges recently broke and the screen is currently being held together by a clamp. But, I just use it for surfing the internets (about 90% of what I need a computer for) and it does that job just fine. I'm curious to see how long it'll take before she conks out. When it does, I'll probably just buy a refurb T4xx.

 By contrast, my "new" computer is 6 years old; a T530 that I also maxed out. Still works great and does everything I need it to do (photo editing, mostly).

 

[mr moose]

7 hours ago, Kamjam21xx said:

My yamaha ns10m speakers are about 40-45 years old now i think. A lot of the biggest music studios in the world still use them. 

 

Google "yamaha ns10m" in pictures, then.

 

Google "music studio" and search for those white cones. 

They'd have to be the most loved and hated of monitors.  

[hardtofindinthefuture]

A LED/RGB thing

[Kamjam21xx]

16 minutes ago, mr moose said:

They'd have to be the most loved and hated of monitors.  

The new hs-8 and other sizes from yamaha are throwbacks to the origionak ns10m. 

 

Most notably the color scheme.

[mr moose]

Just now, Kamjam21xx said:

The new hs-8 and other sizes from yamaha are throwbacks to the origionak ns10m. 

 

Most notably the color scheme.

I remember when home studios where just becoming a thing on forums, there were heated debates about the NS10's. some where saying they were the crappiest thing to ever carry the yamaha name and others were saying they were truly representative of the average stereo which is why they were popular in professional studios.   Either argument to me is funny.  As far as I am concerned every monitor is different and there is no "best" just different .

[Kamjam21xx]

5 minutes ago, mr moose said:

I remember when home studios where just becoming a thing on forums, there were heated debates about the NS10's. some where saying they were the crappiest thing to ever carry the yamaha name and others were saying they were truly representative of the average stereo which is why they were popular in professional studios.   Either argument to me is funny.  As far as I am concerned every monitor is different and there is no "best" just different .

Aside from all that. They have a nice flat frequency response, and they are insanely clear. 

 

Theyre just great speakers if not great monitors.

[vanished]

I'd generalize it to things that don't wear out easily or get improved on much or at all over time.  Say for example, a hammer.

[Kamjam21xx]

2 minutes ago, Ryan_Vickers said:

I'd generalize it to things that don't wear out easily or get improved on much or at all over time.  Say for example, a hammer.

Yeah a 20 year old eastwing hammer is basically identical to a new one.

[79wjd]

An old ten year old Samsung 8000 series TV -- it doesn't have much in the way of smart capabilities, but the picture is still quite good -- I don't notice any difference unless I'm comparing it side-by-side with newer TVs.

 

I'm also using my brother's 20~ year old Onkyo AVR, and my dad's (probably) 30-40 year old Rogers Studio 1's.

[Crunchy Dragon]

9 hours ago, minervx said:

The sad part about tech is that in a few years, a lot of the stuff we buy will be outdated.  Out of curiosity, I looked around my home and thought about what I had purchased 5-10 years ago that is still good as ever right now, and I've come up with some of these: bedding, furniture and clothes (assuming ones of good quality were bought).  Also, anything audio related does not become obsolete.  While audio gear does have some improvements over the years, there's a lot of gear from 10 or even 20 years ago that are still great and suitable for professional and ethusiast application today.

Usually appliances don't go obsolete if you just keep up on maintenance.

[RyomaSJibenG]

[Kamjam21xx]

4 hours ago, mr moose said:

I remember when home studios where just becoming a thing on forums, there were heated debates about the NS10's. some where saying they were the crappiest thing to ever carry the yamaha name and others were saying they were truly representative of the average stereo which is why they were popular in professional studios.   Either argument to me is funny.  As far as I am concerned every monitor is different and there is no "best" just different .

Ya know, was just looking up new speakers to buy and thought about this. 

 

On the ns10ms a set of drums sounds like an actual set of drums in the room with you, and i was in a studio doing a film contest once and played some of the voice over. Everyone thought it was actually somebody talking. 

 

Ns10m's are definitely unique in the popular group of speakers. Due to their age I do have to flip them once and a while to avoid risking the cone sagging to the point of coil rub though.

 

 

[EPENEX]

My Casio F-91w, smartwatches on the other hand...

[ElZamo92]

I’d say something like a nice audio system won’t become obsolete in a LONG time. The only way a speaker system becomes unusable if you physically break them which is very unlikely, and there’s people who use the same CD players from the 90s, not because they’re retro, but because they’re still quite relevant. 

[asus killer]

there is also the stuff that gets "better" with time. I had a scientific calculator that i hadn't used for years and was not sold anymore. I looked out of curiosity on ebay and it was valued at twice the price it cost when new. Made a killing. 

[iamdarkyoshi]

For me, its got to be my two IBM Model M's and my vintage JBL speakers.

[vanished]

17 minutes ago, asus killer said:

there is also the stuff that gets "better" with time. I had a scientific calculator that i hadn't used for years and was not sold anymore. I looked out of curiosity on ebay and it was valued at twice the price it cost when new. Made a killing. 

I guess GPUs and RAM are the same if you got in at the right moment

[Sir Asvald]

As Arnold said "I'm old but not Obsolete"

 

I've got so many OLD stuff in my garage.  

[Automobili3XF]

15 hours ago, Cookybiscuit said:

They aren't that expensive, and you can buy clones that are pretty similar to the original by a company called Unicomp. 

They're not clones per say, they use all the same tooling as Lexmark did back in the 90s, and its mostly run by ex-Lexmark employes even.

[Automobili3XF]

+1 for the Model M, never obsolete, if you mod with bolts and nuts instead of the original plastic pegs, 30 years from now it will be as good as it was 30 years ago. 

Here's my baby, 1993 Model M with ABNT layout, my daily driver until one of us dies!

[minervx]

By obsolete, I mean outdated - not dysfunctional.  Yes, a monitor from 2007 is still usable but not optimal for a great setup.  Same could be said of a 1080 Ti and 8700k in a few years.

[Cookybiscuit]

14 hours ago, Chevy_Monsenhor said:

They're not clones per say, they use all the same tooling as Lexmark did back in the 90s, and its mostly run by ex-Lexmark employes even.

I just hope they'll put the Spacesaver back into production, it's only been, what, five years since they said they would? Should be coming any day now.

[applebook]

High end mechanical watches. 

[dizmo]

You say outdated like it's no longer usable, but that's not at all the case. Most of the stuff you buy now will still give very good performance for many years to come. It just won't be the fastest, and that's not at all a problem. How upset would we be if it took years to see small improvements in all aspects of computing?

 

Haha, you'd have to be pretty good at shopping to have clothing that's still in style in 5 to 10 years.

 

Mechanical watches. They last forever.

[Automobili3XF]

7 hours ago, Cookybiscuit said:

I just hope they'll put the Spacesaver back into production, it's only been, what, five years since they said they would? Should be coming any day now.

Funny thing is that they already produce SSK barrel plates for a long time, should you need one for your SSK (if it broke, which is not uncommon) you can just call them and order a new one out of the stock.