Want to cheat at PUBG, buy a Dell

[asus killer]

it's a cultural thing, for Chinese people cheating is really not seen as in the rest of the world. I guess them allowing to have no copyrights laws for years helped create this culture. I went there and there were all this clones of iphones and western cars. This is valid for average joe like the players but also for the companies, in this case Dell China.

I'm sure Dell headquarters would never sign of on this.

[mr moose]

3 minutes ago, Ryan_Vickers said:

Clearly

I still say it was a bad PR move.  They've associated their brand with cheating so now anyone who doesn't want to be seen or thought of like that will avoid them.

Lets see where the market share goes in the next few quarters.

[Trixanity]

In related news: Russian Olympic athletes are the most innovative in the world.

[Java Bean]

Well, PUBG be suing DELL now.

[Sniperfox47]

4 hours ago, mr moose said:

Yes they do, they have fairies on treadmills and unicorn blood lubricating the ram.

 

Your assuming most of the people they sell to know or care to learn about this.    It's all marketing and thus all talk for sales.   Using the "cheats better in pubg" line is the original clickbait tagline to get people interested.

Not to mention that with this being China, the "truth in advertising" laws are much less severe than here in the west.

 

4 hours ago, Ryan_Vickers said:

Clearly

I still say it was a bad PR move.  They've associated their brand with cheating so now anyone who doesn't want to be seen or thought of like that will avoid them.

It was a Chinese press event from the Chinese Dell team. For them it's a super positive PR move. At the end of the day, pretty much every company advocates their products a lot differently in the east, we just don't often hear about it over here.

 

For Dell HQ? Absolutely it's a negative PR event, but it's not something they would have been involved in deciding, and it's not not something they'd care about because normally it wouldn't even reach the west.

 

1 hour ago, Java Bean said:

Well, PUBG be suing DELL now.

Good luck trying to sue Dell China. They're in China. They'll just sue you for not being from China.

[NumLock21]

Joking aside, of all laptop having the same specs. I wonder what dell has under the hood, which lets it handle more plugins.

[Trixanity]

54 minutes ago, NumLock21 said:

Joking aside, of all laptop having the same specs. I wonder what dell has under the hood, which lets it handle more plugins.

I think it's more of a reference to the new models increasing core count as in the new models have more cores and can therefore handle more plugins. I would assume it's not related to the idea of a Dell machine handling more plugins than the competition with similar specs.

[Murasaki]

april fools is over stop it

[Princess Luna]

Well that was unexpected then again it was in China so that's understandable.

[Crunchy Dragon]

Quote

Chinese gamers are the most innovative and dominant in the world

Dominant, sure.

 

Innovative? Not likely, cheating has been around just about as long as games have.

[hardtofindinthefuture]

Not the only thing dell is cheating at....

[NTDaws]

[Matt_Lefebvre]

Does this really surprise anyone though?

 

Meaning, look at how mainland china have constructed the capitalist side of their economy based on what is a basic and blatant disregard for international IP (intellectual property) and patent/copyright laws - and where its actually encouraged to copy or steal rather than innovate - or innovation is based on a bottom up pricing strategy (aka same shit but undercut major brands on price)

 

She spoke to the audience, knew her audience, and the fact is that while the rest of us are disgusted by it - its going to sell laptops.....

[Nineshadow]

"There's no such thing as bad publicity"

At least in this case.

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5 hours ago, NumLock21 said:

Joking aside, of all laptop having the same specs. I wonder what dell has under the hood, which lets it handle more plugins.

Nothing, that's the joke Obviously it would perform the same as any other laptop with the same specs.  They're just saying theirs is better because it's more powerful than laptops with less power.  Not only did they cause this news story but it wasn't even over anything worth it.  All they got out of it was a generic mean-nothing bullet point.

[Drak3]

33 minutes ago, Jack_of_all_Trades said:

And to add something actually sensible , I'd say that the major difference between laptops with literally identical hardware is the cooling solutions the manufacturers have installed. That makes the serious difference in performance.

Bloatware also is a huge differentiator.

[Eaglerino]

lol "innovative and dominant"

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1 hour ago, Jack_of_all_Trades said:

 

True, but you see this whole topic is about dell, we are talking about dell, dell, dell and "the rest", even if it was a controversial marketing decision, I'd say it was fucking brilliant since I saw it on quite a few other tech forums/sites. Free adds for dell.

 

And to add something actually sensible , I'd say that the major difference between laptops with literally identical hardware is the cooling solutions the manufacturers have installed. That makes the serious difference in performance.

33 minutes ago, Drak3 said:

Bloatware also is a huge differentiator.

 

True, but they didn't talk about cooling or bloatware, they just went right for cheating and didn't even base it on anything logical.

[mr moose]

4 hours ago, Matt_Lefebvre said:

Meaning, look at how mainland china have constructed the capitalist side of their economy based on what is a basic and blatant disregard for international IP (intellectual property) and patent/copyright laws - and where its actually encouraged to copy or steal rather than innovate - or innovation is based on a bottom up pricing strategy (aka same shit but undercut major brands on price)

 

 

China is just doing about the only thing a country their size can do to come out of the third world and compete with the worlds largest economies.  I don't like half of what they do, but I certainly don't blame them for doing it when the alternative is to stay suppressed. 

 

 

[mr moose]

9 minutes ago, Ryan_Vickers said:

 

True, but they didn't talk about cooling or bloatware, they just went right for cheating and didn't even base it on anything logical.

Because logical, rational marketing is sterile and does not make their product look better to the average joe,  RGB sells, capacitor or cooling solution does not, especially to a mass market of people who are not tech enthusiasts (they are buying laptops not desktop parts).   Every time I turn the TV on I get bombard with what is effectively lies and exaggerations from people selling stuff, this is no different.  

[TopHatProductions115]

Dell just needs to silence themselves, and hope this blows over unnoticed. Otherwise, their efforts this year will be worthless.

[King_of_Oz]

So they are like:

 

"Our laptops are like the greatest at cheating at PUBG...

 

But d0nt"

[Java Bean]

On 14/04/2018 at 12:01 PM, Sniperfox47 said:

Not to mention that with this being China, the "truth in advertising" laws are much less severe than here in the west.

 

It was a Chinese press event from the Chinese Dell team. For them it's a super positive PR move. At the end of the day, pretty much every company advocates their products a lot differently in the east, we just don't often hear about it over here.

 

For Dell HQ? Absolutely it's a negative PR event, but it's not something they would have been involved in deciding, and it's not not something they'd care about because normally it wouldn't even reach the west.

 

Good luck trying to sue Dell China. They're in China. They'll just sue you for not being from China.

Wait, i'm 11, please explain sueing. WHY, can't PUBG sue Dell China?

[Sniperfox47]

1 hour ago, Java Bean said:

Wait, i'm 11, please explain sueing. WHY, can't PUBG sue Dell China?

They absolutely could try. The issue is that Chinese courts have a history of:

A) not taking Copyright or Patent law seriously

B) Showing intense favoritism towards companies based in China, China oriented, or otherwise pro-China.

 

As an example of this look at the case of Apple suing a company in China for a design-patent infringing copy of their phone, which was near identical to the iPhone, and the the courts threw it out. And then when the company that was copying the iPhone design turned around to sue Apple for infringing on the design of their device which came out after the iPhone, the courts ruled in favor of this Chinese company, despite the lawsuit being absolutely ridiculous.

 

Going after a company in China about anything copyright, trademark, or patent related is a lost cause.

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3 hours ago, Sniperfox47 said:

They absolutely could try. The issue is that Chinese courts have a history of:

A) not taking Copyright or Patent law seriously

B) Showing intense favoritism towards companies based in China, China oriented, or otherwise pro-China.

 

As an example of this look at the case of Apple suing a company in China for a design-patent infringing copy of their phone, which was near identical to the iPhone, and the the courts threw it out. And then when the company that was copying the iPhone design turned around to sue Apple for infringing on the design of their device which came out after the iPhone, the courts ruled in favor of this Chinese company, despite the lawsuit being absolutely ridiculous.

 

Going after a company in China about anything copyright, trademark, or patent related is a lost cause.

That doesn't many any sense... so when Apple sued them, it had to be in a chinese court, but when that company sued apple it was also chinese?  Shouldn't they have gone to an american court?  Just goes to show how completely broken this system is... it needs to be handled on a global level, not a country-by-country basis.