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CPU Speed Comparision Needed

Joe Jackman
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Yes, because you have IPC and clockspeed.

To keep it simple IPC is how much work it can do per tick

Clockspeed is how many ticks there are per second.

 

Let's take bulldozer(FX) and zen(ryzen) as an example.

Bulldozer, 5Ghz, no problem, but performance was crap because even tho it had a high frequency, it didn't exactly do much every tick.

Ryzen however has lower clockspeeds than Bulldozer but it does a lot more work per tick, the difference is so big that it can run at a much lower frequency and still perform better because the amount of work it can do per tick is a lot more.

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Yes.

 

Even comparing speed when it's AMD v AMD or Intel v Intel is wrong, due to architectural differences.

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Just now, RKRiley said:

Yes.

 

Even comparing speed when it's AMD v AMD or Intel v Intel is wrong, due to architectural differences.

AMD marketing 5hz ezpz when it runs hot as the sun and sucks compared to a 3.6ghz i5

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Completely different architectures, hell if it was the same brand and different model its still not comparable based on clock speed.

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If comparing GHz was fair, then Bulldozer would be one of the best chips ever made (while it's definitely not).

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16 minutes ago, BuckGup said:

AMD marketing 5hz ezpz when it runs hot as the sun and sucks compared to a 3.6ghz i5

How can someone with so many post be so ignorant? Or are you just trolling? 

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14 minutes ago, Joe Jackman said:

Is it wrong to compare GHz between intel and amd.

Its wrong to compare GHz between Intel and Intel.

 

 

AMD marketing 5hz ezpz when it runs hot as the sun and sucks compared to a 3.6ghz i5

Its not like an i7-4770 goes to 80°C+ within seconds while loading...

So your "runs hot" argument is invalid because Intels run hotter because of bad thermal connection between Die and Heatspreader...

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Yes, because you have IPC and clockspeed.

To keep it simple IPC is how much work it can do per tick

Clockspeed is how many ticks there are per second.

 

Let's take bulldozer(FX) and zen(ryzen) as an example.

Bulldozer, 5Ghz, no problem, but performance was crap because even tho it had a high frequency, it didn't exactly do much every tick.

Ryzen however has lower clockspeeds than Bulldozer but it does a lot more work per tick, the difference is so big that it can run at a much lower frequency and still perform better because the amount of work it can do per tick is a lot more.

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6 minutes ago, violentnumeric said:

How can someone with so many post be so ignorant? Or are you just trolling?

What are talking about. Bulldozer could OC to 5ghz but take a look at ryzen. Or intel's counterpart. There are more factors then just clock speeds. Many uneducated buyers saw 8 cores 5ghz and that obviously is better then intel's 4 core 4ghz because 8>4 and 5ghz is faster then 4.

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20 minutes ago, Joe Jackman said:

Is it wrong to compare GHz between intel and amd.

Ghz is just a measurement of clock frequency, nothing more. What matters is how many instructions can a CPU do with that clock frequency.

 

See it this way you can have a car that does 120kms but corners like shit and another that only does 100kms but can corner faster, in a oval circuit the 2nd will be faster.

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In addition to not being able to compare clock speed directly between the two, you also can't compare core count either. An 8-core processor on AMD's side doesn't mean it automatically kicks the butt of a 6-core processor on Intel's side or vice versa.

 

Basically the only way to compare hardware between manufacturers is to run them through benchmarks and compare the scores.

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13 minutes ago, violentnumeric said:

How can someone with so many post be so ignorant? Or are you just trolling?

They're referring to Bulldozer, in that case more Ghz and cores wasn't better. You can't just compare AMD to Intel without going in depth with games and real world benchmarks.

Edit- BuckGup beat me to it.

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15 minutes ago, violentnumeric said:

How can someone with so many post be so ignorant? Or are you just trolling?

How can someone think that post count means anything other than time spent on the forum?

13 minutes ago, Stefan Payne said:

Its not like an i7-4770 goes to 80°C+ within seconds while loading...

So your "runs hot" argument is invalid because Intels run hotter because of bad thermal connection between Die and Heatspreader...

Eh, at least it doesn't require the use of an AIO, and melt motherboards.

The 9000 series AMD chips were utter trash.

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