Car Enthusiast Club [Now Motorcycle friendly!] - First thread to 150k! ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[AlwaysFSX]

46 minutes ago, vinyldash303 said:

Especially with boost. 

Oh yeah, with that much air you need a lot of fuel for it.

[MEC-777]

3 hours ago, AlwaysFSX said:

#BringBackEnginesThatActuallySoundGood

 

I like the way it sounds. Understated and stealthy. And it has that subtle turbo flutter sound (BOV) in the intake. 

2 hours ago, AlwaysFSX said:

Sounds bad, bad throttle response, probably just as bad gas mileage.

 

I really don't see a point to it.

Can't judge throttle response by revving off idle. It depends how they are hitting the pedal. Most stock engines don't react well to instant WOT from idle. They aren't F1 engines.

 

Point is you get better efficiency when not under heavy/moderate loads, but you still get the power when you need it.

[carguy86]

Beep beep, here comes the jeep!

[techswede]

Dang it. If i had remembered that this song was a thing i would've bought a Z-28

 

[AlwaysFSX]

7 hours ago, MEC-777 said:

I like the way it sounds. Understated and stealthy. And it has that subtle turbo flutter sound (BOV) in the intake. 

Can't judge throttle response by revving off idle. It depends how they are hitting the pedal. Most stock engines don't react well to instant WOT from idle. They aren't F1 engines.

 

Point is you get better efficiency when not under heavy/moderate loads, but you still get the power when you need it.

Me and Milk went over this, you really don't.

[techswede]

Thoughts on some reasonably priced sound proofing? 

[terrytek]

8 hours ago, AlwaysFSX said:

Oh yeah, with that much air you need a lot of fuel for it.

but at least you can make most of your power down low, especially in a big engine like that, since it's essentially shoving air into the engine for you, instead of the engine having to suck in the air itself.

 

28 minutes ago, techswede said:

Thoughts on some reasonably priced sound proofing? 

i mean i would go for it if i'm trying to quieten my cabin, or put some in the doors to improve the quality of my speakers, to try and soundproof outside noises.

[techswede]

6 minutes ago, terrytek said:

i mean i would go for it if i'm trying to quieten my cabin, or put some in the doors to improve the quality of my speakers, to try and soundproof outside noises.

My question was more along the lines of what materials are out there at a reasonable price

[terrytek]

6 minutes ago, techswede said:

My question was more along the lines of what materials are out there at a reasonable price

i think foam might be a good start. like just straight foam.

[techswede]

Just now, terrytek said:

i think foam might be a good start. like just straight foam.

Would have to be some pretty thick and dense foam though

Trying to find something that wouldn't be too thick

[AlwaysFSX]

17 minutes ago, terrytek said:

but at least you can make most of your power down low, especially in a big engine like that, since it's essentially shoving air into the engine for you, instead of the engine having to suck in the air itself.

It's not like larger displacement engines have problems with making power in the low range.

[techswede]

[terrytek]

11 minutes ago, AlwaysFSX said:

It's not like larger displacement engines have problems with making power in the low range.

ok, but some engines, like mercedes twin turbo v8s and v12s, make peak torque (usually over 600lb ft) at essentially idle.

 

14 minutes ago, techswede said:

Would have to be some pretty thick and dense foam though

Trying to find something that wouldn't be too thick

iirc, i saw this one insulation material where it's like 2 layers of foam, sandwiched between 2 sheets of aluminum foil. and that stuff does work, even when it's compressed to half an inch thick. but its pretty expensive. like 70 bucks for a 5ft x10ft roll.

[techswede]

13 minutes ago, terrytek said:

ok, but some engines, like mercedes twin turbo v8s and v12s, make peak torque (usually over 600lb ft) at essentially idle.

 

iirc, i saw this one insulation material where it's like 2 layers of foam, sandwiched between 2 sheets of aluminum foil. and that stuff does work, even when it's compressed to half an inch thick. but its pretty expensive. like 70 bucks for a 5ft x10ft roll.

 

10 minutes ago, vinyldash303 said:

Well the 600 pound feet at "idle" is more because it's a v12 rather than its a twin turbos. 

 

And I think you're talking about dynamat which @techswede if you're gonna go to all the trouble of insulating your whip, you might as well go all the way and do it with this stuff

Dynamat is worryingly expensive.. 

These are my options

https://www.mekonomen.se/bil/forbrukning/forbrukningsmaterial/ljudisolering?pageIndex=0&pageSize=20

(The camaro barely has any sound proofing at all. Mat on steel, So anything would be an improvement)

[terrytek]

12 minutes ago, vinyldash303 said:

Well the 600 pound feet at "idle" is more because it's a v12 rather than its a twin turbos. 

 

And I think you're talking about dynamat which @techswede if you're gonna go to all the trouble of insulating your whip, you might as well go all the way and do it with this stuff

even still, the twin turbo 5.5 liter v8 can still produce over 600lb ft at 2000rpm. and i was wrong about the twin turbo v12. they make over 700lb ft at near idle.

 

8 minutes ago, techswede said:

 

Dynamat is worryingly expensive.. 

These are my options

https://www.mekonomen.

9 minutes ago, techswede said:

 

Dynamat is worryingly expensive.. 

These are my options

https://www.mekonomen.se/bil/forbrukning/forbrukningsmaterial/ljudisolering?pageIndex=0&pageSize=20

(The camaro barely has any sound proofing at all. Mat on steel, So anything would be an improvement)

se/bil/forbrukning/forbrukningsmaterial/ljudisolering?pageIndex=0&pageSize=20

(The camaro barely has any sound proofing at all. Mat on steel, So anything would be an improvement)

maybe just get some foam padding under neath the mat for now, and when you have more money, you can soundproof the whole car. but i don't get why the americans would just put a mat on steel like that.

[RevoltTrain]

Leaving for the All American Rejects, A Day To Remember and Blink 182 concert now. Let's see how expensive of a day this'll be. Leaving with $200 just in case

[carguy86]

Pics!

[chaozbandit]

1 hour ago, techswede said:

 

Lewis loves that tiger to death. He got some serious cuddles with her on instagram that one day.

[techswede]

1 hour ago, vinyldash303 said:

Well the 600 pound feet at "idle" is more because it's a v12 rather than its a twin turbos. 

 

And I think you're talking about dynamat which @techswede if you're gonna go to all the trouble of insulating your whip, you might as well go all the way and do it with this stuff

Found the Rpo sticker. It was on the driver side door. (Strange since i looked earlier...) 

GU5 rear. Good. 3.23's

No G80. Phew..

F41 Suspension System, Firm Ride Handling, Front and Rear. And it still looks like its on stilts  

1 hour ago, terrytek said:

maybe just get some foam padding under neath the mat for now, and when you have more money, you can soundproof the whole car. but i don't get why the americans would just put a mat on steel like that.

Went out to have a proper in depth look. Turns out there is a bit of sound proofing under the floor mat.

As it turns out i'm missing a bolt.

The source of the noise is probably the trunk. 

There really is no sound proofing here at all

The steel is sooo incredibly clean though <3 

 

There is still a lot of stuff to soundproof though. Look at the size of this rear hatch

If i ever broke down i could just open that and sail home. OR i could take that off and i'd have a pickup truck. 

The doors also need a bit of sound proofing.

You may also notice that the dash doesn't look plastic at all

And they are also huge. Ah the first world problems of owning a coupe.. 

 

According to the RPO codes. This was built in canada. And has two emissions packages. (Which maybe makes sense as its a california car?)

[MEC-777]

2 hours ago, AlwaysFSX said:

Me and Milk went over this, you really don't.

I disagree. Depends how you drive it.  

 

Under load and at full boost, no, you don't. Under light load and out of boost, yes, you do. 

[techswede]

According to the RPO codes my camaro has "Twilight sentinel headlights"  (T82)

"On an automobile, Twilight Sentinel is a device on General Motors' cars that senses outside light and turns the exterior lights on and off depending on lighting conditions."

I wonder if this still works at all

[terrytek]

ok so apparently i can try to retrofit a wiper stalk onto my protege that has variable speed wipers, since my car right now doesn't have the variable speed feature. it's useful, because i can control how fast the wipers work depending on the rain. but it's kinda sad how i need to retrofit this onto a top of the line protege from 2002, when my minivan is a base model with 2001 with not even power windows, yet has this variable wiper speed feature.

[terrytek]

yo what the fuck is this hahahaha http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showthread.php?123856315-1999-2006-Mazda-MPV-Trust-(Greddy)-DMR-Coilover-Set-w-RSR-panhard-bar i can't believe there are coilovers for my minivan. like as if.

[warmmilk]

On 9/8/2016 at 10:02 PM, AlwaysFSX said:

 

thats the most awesome thing EVAR!!!

[techswede]

1 minute ago, vinyldash303 said:

After you pull the carpet all the way out you'll find the rest of the sound proofing. It should be mostly in the footwells. Also glad you found the rpo codes. And yeah it should be the standard and California emission packages. Wanna post those codes by chance?

Really hope a bit of foam in the trunk will sort out the road noise. After that its time to get into the mods^^ 

Here is the sticker.