Gaming RIG upgrade. i5 4670k going to ryzen 1600x? good or bad.

[Snizer11]

hi guys, i am wondering if it is a worth a platform upgrade for gaming. Currently I have a i5 4670k in my gaming rig. I'm planning to switch platform and upgrade to ryzen 5 1600x. Is it a good upgrade? since i will sell my current motherboard,processor and ram and buy a new one. TIA for any comments and suggestions.

[Morgan MLGman]

For gaming the performance will be a little bit better with the 1600X, but unless your GPU is a GTX 1070 or faster, you shouldn't notice a difference atm.

[General Winter]

i'd wait, ryzen 2 is coming out this April which is just around the corner at this point, i'd wait if i were you

[Leonius]

2 minutes ago, Snizer11 said:

hi guys, i am wondering if it is a worth a platform upgrade for gaming. Currently I have a i5 4670k in my gaming rig. I'm planning to switch platform and upgrade to ryzen 5 1600x. Is it a good upgrade? since i will sell my current motherboard,processor and ram and buy a new one. TIA for any comments and suggestions.

for gaming i would say no. The single core performance of 4th and 5th generation intel is about the same as ryzen. Also since ram is so expencive maybe wait until intel releases a cpu that isn't susceptible to meltdown/spectre and see then...

[Brooksie359]

Not enough of an upgrade to justify the cost. Unless you are doing something other than gaming it isn't much of an upgrade.

[Snizer11]

3 minutes ago, Morgan MLGman said:

For gaming the performance will be a little bit better with the 1600X, but unless your GPU is a GTX 1070 or faster, you shouldn't notice a difference atm.

well i am using a gtx 1070 founders edition with AIO and I'm gaming in 1080 and 1440p. so no huge performance difference?

[Streetguru]

11 minutes ago, Snizer11 said:

 

Should try and wait for Ryzen 2 unless you really need to get an R7 1700 right now for some streaming.

Also DDR4 pricing sucks

If you're gaming at 60hz your CPU should be fine for the most part

[Cyracus]

No, minimal difference in gaming performance, games that effectively use lots of cores will be the main improvement, but with ram prices being crazy and ryzen+ around the corner with claims from AMD that it sorts out ram compatibility and overclocking potential, I'd say it's a good time to hold off and wait for pricing to normalize

[Snizer11]

1 minute ago, Streetguru said:

Should try and wait for Ryzen 2 unless you really need to get an R7 1700 right now for some streaming.

Also DDR4 pricing sucks

If you're gaming at 60hz your CPU should be fine for the most part

I agree, the RAM pricing is not good in our place. too much expensive. maybe i will wait then.

[Leonius]

4 minutes ago, Snizer11 said:

well i am using a gtx 1070 founders edition with AIO and I'm gaming in 1080 and 1440p. so no huge performance difference?

im using a 1080ti with my 4690k and i very rarely notice bottlenecking

Edit: At 1440p

[NTDaws]

video editing and anything close to that category, yes. For gaming no, you still got a few more years out of it.

[Streetguru]

Just now, Snizer11 said:

I agree, the RAM pricing is not good in our place. too much expensive. maybe i will wait then.

Ryzen 2 is out in april, hopefully it's hitting about 4.5ghz, there's also going to be new X470 motherboards, at least one of which finally has real VRM heatsinks for overclocking
 

 

[Streetguru]

2 minutes ago, Leonius said:

im using a 1080ti with my 4690k and i very rarely notice bottlenecking

Edit: At 1440p

Your CPU is likely pegged to 100% while gaming, it's still fine for 60hz though

[Snizer11]

6 minutes ago, Cyracus said:

No, minimal difference in gaming performance, games that effectively use lots of cores will be the main improvement, but with ram prices being crazy and ryzen+ around the corner with claims from AMD that it sorts out ram compatibility and overclocking potential, I'd say it's a good time to hold off and wait for pricing to normalize

Yeah, I notice when I'M playing Watchdogs 2 and Ghost Recon Wildlands there is a sudden fps drop in some location in the game where there lots of npc. And when i check the MSI afterburner OSD, all of 4 cores in my processor is maxed out to 100% usage.

[Leonius]

2 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

Your CPU is likely pegged to 100% while gaming, it's still fine for 60hz though

in stuff like gta yah its at 90-100%, but it feels fine, no stutter and 1080ti like fps. But yah i have a 60 hz monitor anyways.

[Streetguru]

4 minutes ago, Snizer11 said:

Yeah, I notice when I'M playing Watchdogs 2 and Ghost Recon Wildlands there is a sudden fps drop in some location in the game where there lots of npc. And when i check the MSI afterburner OSD, all of 4 cores in my processor is maxed out to 100% usage.

In general those are just less than well optimized games, rather than your CPU being the issue, sort of
 

 

[Morgan MLGman]

20 minutes ago, Snizer11 said:

well i am using a gtx 1070 founders edition with AIO and I'm gaming in 1080 and 1440p. so no huge performance difference?

It shouldn't bee too bad at 1440p, though it really depends on the game. Try playing BF1 maxed out at 1080p, you'll suffer terribly from a CPU bottleneck in multiplayer maps

There's also stuttering that quad-core i5s have with faster GPUs, they're just not-good-enough.

That being said, I'd honestly wait. While an R5 1600 is a much more capable CPU and doesn't hold back higher-end GPUs, with current memory prices you can just as well wait for next CPU gens. Ryzen+ is just around the corner (end of Q1 2018) so it might be a good idea to wait a little.

[Bananasplit_00]

hardly any improvement, and nowhere near enough of one to justify the platform upgrade cost

[Snizer11]

10 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

In general those are just less than well optimized games, rather than your CPU being the issue, sort of
 

 

Ok i get it, so the pc is not the problem. I also watch the video link and learn something. Thanks

[Snizer11]

6 minutes ago, Morgan MLGman said:

It shouldn't bee too bad at 1440p, though it really depends on the game. Try playing BF1 maxed out at 1080p, you'll suffer terribly from a CPU bottleneck in multiplayer maps

There's also stuttering that quad-core i5s have with faster GPUs, they're just not-good-enough.

That being said, I'd honestly wait. While an R5 1600 is a much more capable CPU and doesn't hold back higher-end GPUs, with current memory prices you can just as well wait for next CPU gens. Ryzen+ is just around the corner (end of Q1 2018) so it might be a good idea to wait a little.

Alright then. Thanks man. How about my RAM, is this might cause a bottleneck in games? currently I'm using a Gskill ripjaws 8gb 1333mhz dual channel kit.

[Snizer11]

22 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

Ryzen 2 is out in april, hopefully it's hitting about 4.5ghz, there's also going to be new X470 motherboards, at least one of which finally has real VRM heatsinks for overclocking
 

 

Thanks. Hopefully the prices in this will be good too so i will upgrade to it if benchmark results will be good.

[Morgan MLGman]

1 minute ago, Snizer11 said:

Alright then. Thanks man. How about my RAM, is this might cause a bottleneck in games? currently I'm using a Gskill ripjaws 8gb 1333mhz dual channel kit.

Overclocking your RAM definitely should lift some CPU bottleneck effects, when the CPU is pegged at 100% in games, overclocking RAM yields the best results so I'd give that a shot if your motherboard allows it.

 

As for the capacity... 8 gigs is not enough for me personally, not for my desktop rig anyway (fine for my work laptop though). But you it should suffice until next CPU gens launch or DDR4 prices drop, I wouldn't buy more DDR3 now to be fair

[Snizer11]

16 minutes ago, Morgan MLGman said:

Overclocking your RAM definitely should lift some CPU bottleneck effects, when the CPU is pegged at 100% in games, overclocking RAM yields the best results so I'd give that a shot if your motherboard allows it.

 

As for the capacity... 8 gigs is not enough for me personally, not for my desktop rig anyway (fine for my work laptop though). But you it should suffice until next CPU gens launch or DDR4 prices drop, I wouldn't buy more DDR3 now to be fair

Well tha'ts good news. But i search about overclocking Ram in my board and its not good news for me though. I found a thread in this forum in overclocking B85m gamer boards and due to the chipset limitation, overclocking my processor and ram can't be done.

[Streetguru]

8 minutes ago, Snizer11 said:

Well tha'ts good news. But i search about overclocking Ram in my board and its not good news for me though. I found a thread in this forum in overclocking B85m gamer boards and due to the chipset limitation, overclocking my processor and ram can't be done.

I wouldn't worry about DDR3 overclocking anyways

[Snizer11]

11 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

I wouldn't worry about DDR3 overclocking anyways

Can you give me some link about overclocking RAM guide? TIA