Can I return my and brothers PC ?

[SilkyDistress]

So after I found out about Intel Security issue is it possiable to return CPU and mobo cause my rig was  bought in December, 2017 and my brothers rig was bought in April, 2017.

Can I return the CPU and mobo and swap it for Ryzen 5 and Ryzen 7 ?

 

My PC Specs :
i7 7700k

ASUS Z170-K

24 gb of ram (2x 8 gb 2400 mhz and 2x 4 gb 2400 mhz)

GTX 970

 

My brother's PC Specs:

i5 6600k

Gigabyte Z270 Gaming K3

16 gb of ram (2x 8 gb 2400 mhz)

GTX 960

 

[Shreyas1]

I don't think so but you could always sell it...

 

Or you could just patch it and be fine

 

[just_dave]

Yours probably yes, your bro's probably not

[jj9987]

For some reason, I highly doubt PC manufacturers are actually willing to purchase back these or arrange a switch to Ryzen for you. Patches are already being deployed for this security issue.

[Airdragonz]

Return? I don't think so, not after you used the cpu. You can probably sell it though. 

[SilkyDistress]

On 1/5/2018 at 1:15 PM, dave_k said:

Yours probably yes, your bro's probably not

Is it possiable through court ? We live in Croatia

On 1/5/2018 at 1:14 PM, Shreyas1 said:

I don't think so but you could always sell it...

 

Or you could just patch it and be fine

 

Waiting for whole thing to be fixed is not an option cause I do not wanna update cause we tried on our laptop and Windows got bricked completely and also I cannot suffer from performance loss in apps like CATIA, Solidworks, AutoCAD and Tensorflow. My brother cannot neither for apps like 3ds Max, Maya and Premiere Pro. 

 

On 1/5/2018 at 1:19 PM, jj9987 said:

For some reason, I highly doubt PC manufacturers are actually willing to purchase back these or arrange a switch to Ryzen for you. Patches are already being deployed for this security issue.

I cannot wait for patch beacuse I very sensitive and private data that I have use to every single day.

 

On 1/5/2018 at 1:19 PM, Airdragonz said:

Return? I don't think so, not after you used the cpu. You can probably sell it though. 

I didn't overclock it neither my brother will that raise chances for return ?

[LienusLateTips]

1 minute ago, SilkyDistress said:

Is it possiable through court ? We live in Croatia

Waiting for whole thing to be fixed is not an option cause I do not wanna update cause we tried on our laptop and Windows got bricked completely and also I cannot suffer from performance loss in apps like CATIA, Solidworks, AutoCAD and Tensorflow. My brother cannot neither for apps like 3ds Max, Maya and Premiere Pro. 

Still probably not

[Theguywhobea]

1 minute ago, SilkyDistress said:

Is it possiable through court ? We live in Croatia

Waiting for whole thing to be fixed is not an option cause I do not wanna update cause we tried on our laptop and Windows got bricked completely and also I cannot suffer from performance loss in apps like CATIA, Solidworks, AutoCAD and Tensorflow. My brother cannot neither for apps like 3ds Max, Maya and Premiere Pro. 

You think windows updates will brick your machine?

[LienusLateTips]

Just now, SilkyDistress said:

I didn't overclock it neither my brother will that raise chances for return ?

Not at all. All the return policies I've read from Taiwan, North America (not Europe though...) say CPU is final sale.

[jj9987]

Just now, SilkyDistress said:

I cannot wait for patch beacuse I very sensitive and private data that I have use every single day.

Some versions of Linux kernels (I can't tell by heart right now) have this implemented. W10 update has been released KB4056892, W7 and W8.1 also have patches, but these will be pushed via Windows Update next week. MacOS High Sierra has some of the patches implemented, remaining will come soon (currently in beta).

[SilkyDistress]

On 1/5/2018 at 1:21 PM, Theguywhobea said:

You think windows updates will brick your machine?

Yes, cause a showcase on laptop was enough and also I am running Windows 8.1 with Zeffy's Windows Patch.

 

On 1/5/2018 at 1:21 PM, JDE said:

Not at all. All the return policies I've read from Taiwan, North America (not Europe though...) say CPU is final sale.

What about Europe cause we live in Europe (Croatia more precisely)

[LienusLateTips]

Just now, SilkyDistress said:

What about Europe cause we live in Europe (Croatia more precisely)

Probably not. How am I supposed to know? Go check with the store you bought it from. If they have a website, their return policy will probably be on there. If it's a local shop, the receipt will have it, or you can go ask them.

[Airdragonz]

Well. If you really want to return and ordered through Amazon, contact their cs team. They'll probably process it if you're a prime member. 

[Revamp]

I think people are getting just a bit carried away. The flaw was discovered by security researchers. This isn't a currently practiced exploit and it's doubted that people even have the resources to carry out this exploit. It's effected all intel cpus since like '95 and never had a problem.

[KenjiUmino]

2 minutes ago, Revamp said:

I think people are getting just a bit carried away. The flaw was discovered by security researchers. This isn't a currently practiced exploit and it's doubted that people even have the resources to carry out this exploit. It's effected all intel cpus since like '95 and never had a problem.

exactly what i am thinking ... this whole thing gets blown out of proportion. makes good headlines, after all. 

 

this has existed for so long and not been abused yet.

but now, after all the noise about it, i bet some people will try to craft a weapon grade exploit around it. 

[knightslugger]

23 minutes ago, SilkyDistress said:

Is it possiable through court ? We live in Croatia

Are you guys doing anything that this bug would affect?

 

if you don't know, then the answer is NO and you shouldn't worry about it. FYI, AMD is affected as well, just at a different level.

[Revamp]

3 minutes ago, KenjiUmino said:

exactly what i am thinking ... this whole thing gets blown out of proportion. makes good headlines, after all. 

 

this has existed for so long and not been abused yet.

but now, after all the noise about it, i bet some people will try to craft a weapon grade exploit around it. 

all politics, marketing and money.
Media outlets get publicity and monetary revenue due to increased traffic, I'm sure an AMD affiliate company started the hype about intel, then intel came back and said oh yeah well AMD is vulnerable to this exploit etc etc. Then they will start selling "Meltdown & spectre resistant hardware" and people will buy into it and make it another billion dollar market lol.

 

Practice safe usage on your computer, be mindful of what you visit, download, and run, and be fine. I haven't had any viruses or trouble in the last 10 years and going strong.
 

[SilkyDistress]

Just now, knightslugger said:

Are you guys doing anything that this bug would affect?

 

if you don't know, then the answer is NO and you shouldn't worry about it. FYI, AMD is affected as well, just at a different level.

A lot in productivity server (Me: CATIA, Solidworks, AutoCAD and Tensorflow; My Brother : 3ds Max, Maya and Premiere Pro and from time to time After Effects and both of us do a crap tone of virtualization on our pcs atm, I ordered server with EPYC finally)

[KenjiUmino]

3 minutes ago, Revamp said:

Then they will start selling "Meltdown & spectre resistant hardware" and people will buy into it and make it another billion dollar market lol.

you know what? this might actually be a good way to start the year - imagine what will happen to the used CPU market if every idiot is now trying to ged rid of their intel CPUs in a wave of paranoia

[knightslugger]

On 1/5/2018 at 1:45 PM, SilkyDistress said:

A lot in productivity server (Me: CATIA, Solidworks, AutoCAD and Tensorflow; My Brother : 3ds Max, Maya and Premiere Pro and from time to time After Effects and both of us do a crap tone of virtualization on our pcs atm, I ordered server with EPYC finally)

well, keep them up to date... buy some pretty stout security software, maybe invest in heavy grade firewall protection, lock down your systems...

 

you know how to do this...

 

On 1/5/2018 at 1:49 PM, KenjiUmino said:

you know what? this might actually be a good way to start the year - imagine what will happen to the used CPU market if every idiot is now trying to ged rid of their intel CPUs in a wave of paranoia

OM... YOu are a genius. an Economics GENIUS! I'm going to buy up EVERYONE'S 6700k/7700k/8700k for pennies on the dollar! shower me with CPUS!

 

Let the good times roll!

[SilkyDistress]

Just now, knightslugger said:

well, keep them up to date... buy some pretty stout security software, maybe invest in heavy grade firewall protection, lock down your systems...

 

you know how to do this...

Any reccomendation for security software, My EPYC server will arrive in 2-3 months and I cannot wait that long for firewall. Windows Update took a good shit on my laptop and good 5 hours to get data from it and reinstall it.

[knightslugger]

Just now, SilkyDistress said:

Any reccomendation for security software, My EPYC server will arrive in 2-3 months and I cannot wait that long for firewall. Windows Update took a good shit on my laptop and good 5 hours to get data from it and reinstall it.

https://www.cylance.com/en_us/blog/cylance-not-impacted-by-meltdown-or-spectre-vulnerabilities.html

[KenjiUmino]

2 minutes ago, knightslugger said:

OM... YOu are a genius. an Economics GENIUS! I'm going to buy up EVERYONE'S 6700k/7700k/8700k for pennies on the dollar! shower me with CPUS!

 

Let the good times roll!

hey, i see it like this: even IF the patch would eat away some 20-30% of CPU performance i would still be "ok" IF i could get a 8700k for dirt cheap - even a 8700k with a 30% handicap will knock my current CPU right out of the park without breaking a sweat

[SilkyDistress]

4 minutes ago, knightslugger said:

https://www.cylance.com/en_us/blog/cylance-not-impacted-by-meltdown-or-spectre-vulnerabilities.html

What is the cost for antivirus cause I only see request a demo ? And also I don't think antivirus can prevent this type of bug on Intel's CPU's

[knightslugger]

Just now, SilkyDistress said:

What is the cost for antivirus cause I only see request a demo ? And also I don't think antivirus can prevent this type of bug on Intel's CPU's

Call them up, ask for a sales rep.

 

It sounds as if you are WAY behind the IT security ball and you need some heavy hitting hardware protection. I think you better hire a firm to handle your needs.

 

...that is unless you do this all as a hobby, at which point, why are we still talking...