General Intel HEDT Xeon/i7 Discussion

[Pasi123]

My system with a X5670 @ 4.32GHz pulled 335W while running Cinebench R15. I tested that back in 2018 so I don't remember what voltage I used, I guess around 1.35v

My board has a single 8-pin EPS.

 

(Sorry for the dust and cat hair)

[CT854]

On 12/8/2022 at 4:01 AM, toasty99 said:

Spoiler: 

 

A380 is incompatible with that system out of the box. 

 

The A380 REQUIRES resizable bar. C602 does not support resizable bar. X99 does not support resizable bar. There is a hack that may work: https://github.com/xCuri0/ReBarUEFI

 

X299 has some support for resizable bar in non janky/hack ways on a motherboard by motherboard basis as some boards got official updates, some got unofficial updates, some got betas, and some got nothing. 

 

I mean the good news is it'll boot up, you'll get a display out, and the performance will be awful. You can then try to implement the hack and hopefully it fixes your issues. If not, that's it you're out of luck. 

 

 

For gaming, I'd need Resizable Bar. I don't intend on gaming on this system at all. This build was conceived of as mostly a project build, but now it's probably going to be converted into a encode machine for Handbrake.

[Crunchy Dragon]

5 hours ago, Zando_ said:

Checking back at photos, I was incorrect about my ASUS X58 board, Rampage III Formula only has one 8-Pin EPS. And interestingly it uses Molex for what I believe is supplemental PCIe power. X58 Classified SLI 4-Way uses 2 8-pin EPS but also has Molex for supplemental PCIe, the EVGA SR-2 uses an 8+6 for each CPU socket, and then a 6-pin for supplemental PCIe power. It's from the same timeframe as the X58 boards so I'm not sure why they still used Molex. My MSI Big Bang/Xpower/Whatever the model name is, used 2x 8-pin EPS same as the X58 Classy, but a 6-pin for supplemental PCIe instead of Molex.

My Gigabyte X99-UD4 uses Molex for PCIe power as well. My X99-SLI didn't have any supplemental power from what I remember. My X299 FTW-K thankfully uses a 6 pin PCIe, on top of having two 8 pin EPS connectors.

 

I really love having a connector for supplemental PCIe power. I don't know why, it just tickles my nerd brain.

5 hours ago, Zando_ said:

(Crunchy was considering a board to clock a 5820K as far as it'll go)

I could get dangerously far into that as a hobby. Perhaps even to a point where I have a pile of 5820Ks, with stats for every single one based on how well I did in the silicon lottery.

 

Random tangent:

One of the best instances of winning the silicon lottery I've ever seen was one of my buddies, who ran a 4790K at 5Ghz 1.4 or 1.45v on an air cooler with no lapping or delidding. Think he eventually sold that for something stupid to a hobbyist overclocker.

[Zando_]

4 hours ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

My Gigabyte X99-UD4 uses Molex for PCIe power as well. My X99-SLI didn't have any supplemental power from what I remember. My X299 FTW-K thankfully uses a 6 pin PCIe, on top of having two 8 pin EPS connectors.

 

I really love having a connector for supplemental PCIe power. I don't know why, it just tickles my nerd brain.

Peace of mind. I can slap in as many PCIe cards as I want and not worry about power draw. I assume the FTW K has it as EVGA loves supporting 4-Way SLI whenever possible, so they assume people buying their boards will probably slap in a bunch of hungry cards. They do have a pretty beefy Folding @ Home team as well I believe, so that's another reason to keep it even with the death of SLI.

4 hours ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

I could get dangerously far into that as a hobby. Perhaps even to a point where I have a pile of 5820Ks, with stats for every single one based on how well I did in the silicon lottery.

Someone did something similar here ages ago, I need to go back and find that post at some point. Breakdown of like 100+ X58 chips and which ended up having the best bins. The takeaway I got was that 45nm golden bins were golden, but overall the usual X56xx Xeons had the best chance of a pretty good bin.

 

Also, got that new (to me) Dark up and running, all seems fine so far. Shipper left a 500GB XPG ATOM30 SSD in there by mistake, but they said I could keep it so yay free SSD

 

[Crunchy Dragon]

1 hour ago, Zando_ said:

Someone did something similar here ages ago, I need to go back and find that post at some point. Breakdown of like 100+ X58 chips and which ended up having the best bins. The takeaway I got was that 45nm golden bins were golden, but overall the usual X56xx Xeons had the best chance of a pretty good bin.

Hey, the 5820K is only getting cheaper and cheaper. Realistically, it wouldn't cost that much to grab roughly 100 off Ebay and other sources.

[Kilrah]

15 hours ago, Zando_ said:

has Molex for supplemental PCIe

Ah yep I have that too. That was the time where you could be expected to have quad SLI and I guess 4x75W going through the whole board is a bit much

[Slayer3032]

On 12/9/2022 at 12:02 PM, Pasi123 said:

My system with a X5670 @ 4.32GHz pulled 335W while running Cinebench R15. I tested that back in 2018 so I don't remember what voltage I used, I guess around 1.35v

My board has a single 8-pin EPS.

 

(Sorry for the dust and cat hair)

 

I used to pull 400w on a Killawatt running 180x26/1.425v with my GA-X58A-UD5 rev.1 with the 12 phases on my X5675. The 1080 should have been on a 40w~ idle roughly since it was in windows so that cpu was certainly pulling 300w+ just to itself. With the GPU in OCCT it would pull 550w so the math checks out for a 180w GTX 1080. Using turbo boost/eist it would hit 4680mhz on the single core multi while also at the same time also idling down to a nice 105w idle when the 1080 decided it actually wanted to hit the 11w lowest idle states(aka never). 32nm was a tank, my X5675 easily doubled my i7-930 scores.

[toasty99]

Has anyone managed to overclock a 7900x QLRX enigneering sample?

 

Not working so far on my ASRock x299 extreme4 board with the 2.0 bios, trying to go back to an old bios and see if that helps...

[the pudding]

18 hours ago, toasty99 said:

Has anyone managed to overclock a 7900x QLRX enigneering sample?

 

Not working so far on my ASRock x299 extreme4 board with the 2.0 bios, trying to go back to an old bios and see if that helps...

I've played around with a 7900X ES before, they're pretty much just not overclockable through and through unfortunately, they only work on some bioses too so you do have to be pretty picky about that too, all in all, decent as a backup but not a right lot else 

[the pudding]

So this was a fun one, wound up selling my evga 1600 G2 to a friend for £190, and snagged this beauty for £160, pretty pleased all told 

[Crunchy Dragon]

4 minutes ago, the pudding said:

So this was a fun one, wound up selling my evga 1600 G2 to a friend for £190, and snagged this beauty for £160, pretty pleased all told

That's quite a chonker. Reminds me of when I got my RM1000x after only having 400 and 550W power supplies.

[the pudding]

5 hours ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

That's quite a chonker. Reminds me of when I got my RM1000x after only having 400 and 550W power supplies.

Yeah I get that feel, I went from some ancient 600w coolermaster thing to my first 1600 G2, it was a massive change in capacity and size lmao 

[da na]

Was just pointed to this thread. I own four Xeon systems varying in age. Newest being my workstation

then my primary image processing server

then my secondary image processing/storage server

and finally my oldest server, dual 771.

 

 

[Crunchy Dragon]

5 hours ago, Mel0n. said:

Was just pointed to this thread. I own four Xeon systems varying in age. Newest being my workstation

64GB gang!

 

Maybe once I get farther into AI, I'll be able to justify a dual socket rig that isn't my Athlon XP machine.

[Zando_]

Rather late with this one, but internals pic of my latest configuration:

 

Finally got a pic as I was adding in the 140mm exhaust fan, and an 80mm intake under the GPU to try and bring in a little more fresh air, has so far kept it from going into the 80s like it was. The ARC cards are usually cool running, but the main intake is filtered through that 60mm front rad so there wasn't any fresh air for the poor GPU. Also upped the fan speeds overall which I think helped a bit as well. 

[the pudding]

12 hours ago, Zando_ said:

Rather late with this one, but internals pic of my latest configuration:

 

Finally got a pic as I was adding in the 140mm exhaust fan, and an 80mm intake under the GPU to try and bring in a little more fresh air, has so far kept it from going into the 80s like it was. The ARC cards are usually cool running, but the main intake is filtered through that 60mm front rad so there wasn't any fresh air for the poor GPU. Also upped the fan speeds overall which I think helped a bit as well. 

My god that's delicious 

[Zando_]

Tired so this is going to be quite the rambly post. My TFX PSU arrived, literally the cheapest unit I could find with an 8-pin EPS (an old 300W 80+ Bronze Silverstone unit), so I got to mostly finish a project I've been meaning to do for a while:

 

 

X99 Micro 2 with an i7 6950X, cooled by an NH-L12S with a 92mm fan zip tied to the underside as a cheapskate's L12 Ghost Edition, 80mm intake and exhaust, WX-2100 for video out. Has the 256GB 960 Evo you can see there, and a 120GB TC Sunbow SSD in the 3.5" slot that's under the ODD because I had it lying around. It's using a 2x 2.5" to 3.5" adapter from IcyDock so I can add a 2nd 2.5" drive later if I want. ODD is a Lite-On unit I got back when I was looking for drives to rip CDs, according to some chart assembled by audiophiles it was like 1% more accurate than most other drives or something at ripping music from CDs, and I wanted to turn the albums I own into FLACs for my iPod Classic. Can't find my low profile PCIe bracket for the WX 2100 so that's currently held in with a ziptie, I have a new bracket on the way as they're only ~$7 shipped.

 

 

From the outside, aside from the 2 small nubs from the zip ties holding in the exhaust fan, it just looks like a worn old Vista PC (Chassis is a Dell Inspiron 530S from 2007). That front I/O works too, the front panel header for power button/LEDs are a single block, but use the same pinout as the standard split ones normal cases use, so no issues there. The USB and audio are just normal connectors. Seems basically inaudible so far too, which is rather nice.

 

And RAM because it's EVGA branded and therefore magically better than any other 4x4GB kit of 2800Mhz DDR4. I'm not sure why they sold RAM, it seems to only be early DDR4 (as I haven't seen a more modern speed kit), and I think there were some DDR3 kits as well.

 

 

I still have my 1000W G3 so I'll get... probably my X79 board (an EVGA Dark with a 4930K) up and running again, as my X58 board is XL-ATX and my main rig has stolen the Corsair 750D I got for that purpose. If I end up having the time/energy I need to do a CPU swap on my Mac Pro 1,1 as well. That's also Intel HEDT, an old set of LGA... 771 Xeons I believe. Currently a pair of dual cores, I have a set of quad cores to swap in, so it'll be at 8c/8t, 32GB RAM, and an HD 4870 512MB, not bad for a machine from 2006. EFI flashed to a 2,1 so it will run El Capitan which is mostly usable still, though I should see how running Linux or Windows on it goes.

[the pudding]

So I got a pretty solid deal on a 3090 FTW3, I also found a pair block and backplate on ebay for a decent price too, card arrived today, gotta say I'm impressed, this'll go lovely with the X299 dark, in the process of staying evga, I am considering maaaaaaybe going for an SR3 when I get my tax refund in April too  

[JT89]

Where did you get the x299 dark? @the pudding

[Crunchy Dragon]

We should literally just rename this thread to "EVGA Fan Club"

[CommanderAlex]

1 hour ago, the pudding said:

So I got a pretty solid deal on a 3090 FTW3, I also found a pair block and backplate on ebay for a decent price too, card arrived today, gotta say I'm impressed, this'll go lovely with the X299 dark, in the process of staying evga, I am considering maaaaaaybe going for an SR3 when I get my tax refund in April too  

~Snipped~

Man...I miss my X299 build seeing you guys post all this content. 

[Crunchy Dragon]

5 minutes ago, CommanderAlex said:

Man...I miss my X299 build seeing you guys post all this content. 

I kind of miss my X99 build, but it doesn't make sense for me to downgrade hahaha

[CommanderAlex]

6 minutes ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

I kind of miss my X99 build, but it doesn't make sense for me to downgrade hahaha

Yeah that's exactly how I feel haha!! I don't want to go back to my i7-9800X I got for X299. I still have another 4 sticks of the RAM I use right now just sitting in a box. 

 

EDIT: @Crunchy DragonI wish Intel would actually bring back their HEDT lineup. I've seen things online about it but IIRC is geared more towards workstations and Xeons? 

Edited January 22, 2023 by CommanderAlex
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[Crunchy Dragon]

3 minutes ago, CommanderAlex said:

Yeah that's exactly how I feel haha!! I don't want to go back to my i7-9800X I got for X299. I still have another 4 sticks of the RAM I use right now just sitting in a box. 

Should have never left X299 in the first place. Rookie mistake.

[the pudding]

20 hours ago, JT89 said:

Where did you get the x299 dark? @the pudding

Imported straight to the UK via amazon, was expensive, like 425 quid or something, well worth it though 

 

20 hours ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

We should literally just rename this thread to "EVGA Fan Club"

Yee at this point may as well lmao