Stay on Android or Switch to iOS?

[paddy-stone]

I'd go with a cheaper android phone like a xiaomi personally, I am about to receive a redmi 4 note Spec

And for the price it has decent spec I think. What are your main usages for the phone? work that out and then you can look for a phone that meets those needs. The Xiaomi phone I am getting only costs approx $130 or so, depending on the actual model you get, the one I am getting above is the global version with 32GB ROM and 8 core snapdragon at upto 2GHhz. And is either dual sim or you can use 1 sim and a microSD, and you can swap them out when needed if you like.

You have a choice with Android about the spec you get, regarding CPU/RAM etc, whereas the iphone only has a few models and the spec isn't much different between them IIRC apart from things like memory size.

If that's what you want/need though then that's fine... as I said work out what you do with the phone and then see if an iphone meets those needs or not, and whether you get more for your money with android and it has the specs that you need.

[UltimaHeart]

Just now, SunTea said:

3 of my biggest reasons o stay with Android is their navigation system (back button, home button, and recent apps button all at the bottom with the option to customize their layout), headphone jack, and the fact that I can put my apps where I want them and not just having to fill them from top to bottom with only the option to put them on folders or on a new page.

 

I would recommend looking into the LG V30, it has a really nice screen with small bessels, nice cameras and features, and an integrated DAC I think (I know it has some kind of enhanced headphone jack). But the S8/S8 plus/ Note 8 are great options too, and of course the pixel 2 once it comes out (most likely).

Yeah im gonna consider the V30 if the pixel 2 ends up being disappointing for me

[DrMacintosh]

35 minutes ago, Takieght said:

Please don't. Facetime? Hangouts 

iMessage? Every phone has a messaging service.

Camera? Both sides have cameras that are on par.

Does ios have customization? No

Do they have a file system? No

Do they have innovation? No

Do they slow down their old phones to make you buy new ones? Yes

Hangouts is a joke compared to both iMessage and FaceTime.

"every phone has a messaging service" Yeah that nobody uses and has no unique features 

fair enough

Yes it does to a point. That point being app location, wallpapers, how buttons look, etc. 

Yes iOS does have a file system. The Files App and iCloud Drive not to mention every app can share between other apps. 

"Do they have innovation" Ahahaha So much Apple has done to better phones is erased with that statement

No they don't slow down their phones. If they did you would not be able to buy the iPhone SE, 6s, or 7 with the 8 and X being out. 

[themctipers]

Just now, Takieght said:

No, I mean if you got a brand new iPhone and never updated, some of the optimization features wouldn't be there, would they? (Sorry if I'm wrong) 

Also, the whole point of Apple is to be for (don't take this as an insult) childproof. For the less tech-savvy people. They should still get these things without having to jailbreak. 

i agree with apple being childproof 

 

what do you mean by optimization? afaik, latest phone on their latest version of iOS that is still native to their number (so, iphone 7 on 10.3.3, iphone 6s on 9.3.5, iphone 6 on 8.4.1, etc) is still the fastest (animations don't count.) 

they do slow down after a major OS update, pretty sure even the 6s slowed down slightly by 10.

[AvocadosGuac]

 

31 minutes ago, Takieght said:

Please don't. Facetime? Hangouts 

iMessage? Every phone has a messaging service.

Camera? Both sides have cameras that are on par.

Does ios have customization? No

Do they have a file system? No

Do they have innovation? No

Do they slow down their old phones to make you buy new ones? Yes

No file system...

 

every device has a file system, and come ios 11, there's an app called "Files"

 

Do they have innovation? How no if they are the butt of all jokes for innovation? What the fuck

 

Do they slow down their old phones... No they don't. They release new software that's more demanding on the hardware, so the phone slows down a tiny bit. It's like anything...

 

IOS's customization is definitely not great, but you got that right.

[Yazoofiend]

Just now, Jrock said:

 

No file system...

 

every device has a file system, and come ios 11, there's an app called "Files"

 

Do they have innovation? How no if they are the butt of all jokes for innovation? What the fuck

 

Do they slow down their old phones... No they don't. They release new software that's more demanding on the hardware, so the phone slows down a tiny bit. It's like anything...

 

IOS's customization is definitely not great, but you got that right.

There always should have been a file system. Also, knowing Apple it won't be a full file system. It will be some washed down version.

Your statement here counters itself. Just going to pretend it never happened.

Yes, they do slow down their old phones. It incentives their customers to buy new phones. Of course they do it.

 

[AvocadosGuac]

13 minutes ago, Takieght said:

Also, the iPhone X is apparently slower than android phones out there this year.

Are you cracked? Its got the fastest mobile cpu in it... 6 cores. Maybe do some research before you pull shit outta your ass...

 

http://indianexpress.com/article/technology/iphone-8/apple-iphone-x-a11-bionic-performance-geekbench-test-result-4846197/

[DrMacintosh]

3 minutes ago, Takieght said:

Also, knowing Apple it won't be a full file system.

What qualifies as a full file system? 

 

Do you seriously want people to be able to modify let alone view key OS files for a smartphone? 

 

Downloaded something? Save it to Files. Want to share something? Load it from files. Want to rename a file? Use Files. Want to send a file? Airdrop it/use a bluetooth sharing app for it or any app you have on your phone via the share menu.

 

What else do you need? 

[Yazoofiend]

Just now, Jrock said:

Are you cracked? Its got the fastest mobile cpu in it... 6 cores. Maybe do some research before you pull shit outta your ass...

 

http://indianexpress.com/article/technology/iphone-8/apple-iphone-x-a11-bionic-performance-geekbench-test-result-4846197/

Sorry, just realised how shitty I stated that. I meant in the way of speed over using data. Sorry for completely dying on that lmfao.

 

http://bgr.com/2017/09/13/iphone-x-iphone-8-vs-galaxy-s8-lg-v30-t-mobile-verizon/

[Yazoofiend]

Just now, DrMacintosh said:

What qualifies as a full file system? 

 

Do you seriously want people to be able to modify let alone view key OS files? 

 

Downloaded something? Save it to Files. Want to share something? Load it from files. Want to rename a file? Use Files. Want to send a file? Airdrop it/use a bluetooth sharing app for it. 

 

What else do you need? 

Not what I meant, I don't have a key image in mind but knowing Apple it won't be as in depth as Androids version.

[DrMacintosh]

Just now, Takieght said:

I meant in the way of speed over using data.

You do realize no US carrier can saturate the data speeds of the modems in smartphones from even like 5 years ago.....

[DrMacintosh]

Just now, Takieght said:

I don't have a key image in mind but knowing Apple it won't be as in depth as Androids version.

If you can't state your position you don't have a position. 

 

 

[AvocadosGuac]

1 minute ago, Takieght said:

There always should have been a file system. Also, knowing Apple it won't be a full file system. It will be some washed down version.

Your statement here counters itself. Just going to pretend it never happened.

Yes, they do slow down their old phones. It incentives their customers to buy new phones. Of course they do it.

 

My daily phone was an iphone 4 up until 16 months ago.

 

It ran IOS 6 great. never slowed down. Got my 5s, came with ios 9 i think, iphone 6s came out, no slow downs, iphone 7 came out, no slow downs. iphone 8/x coming out, NO SLOW DOWNS...

 

iOS vs Android is a very subjective topic. I like iOS better. Some may like Android better. Honestly, there's no point in arguing. 

[Yazoofiend]

1 minute ago, DrMacintosh said:

If you can't state your position you don't have a position. 

 

 

That's like saying if someone has an idea for some great revelation for math, but isn't quite there and is missing key details they shouldn't bring it to light.

[Yazoofiend]

2 minutes ago, Jrock said:

My daily phone was an iphone 4 up until 16 months ago.

 

It ran IOS 6 great. never slowed down. Got my 5s, came with ios 9 i think, iphone 6s came out, no slow downs, iphone 7 came out, no slow downs. iphone 8/x coming out, NO SLOW DOWNS...

 

iOS vs Android is a very subjective topic. I like iOS better. Some may like Android better. Honestly, there's no point in arguing. 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2709502/Does-Apple-deliberately-slow-old-models-new-release-Searches-iPhone-slow-spike-ahead-launches.html

[DrMacintosh]

3 minutes ago, Takieght said:

but isn't quite there and is missing key details they shouldn't bring it to light.

If they are missing key details they are literally incapable of bringing that idea to light. 

 

If you do not have the words to state your opinion and argue for your point or at the very least someone to interpret it for you, then frankly you don't have an opinion. Or at least one that can be articulated. 

[Mooshi]

44 minutes ago, fixitnow said:

I would stick with android on the basis the phones are cheaper,

A note 8 makes iPhones look cheap. When we exclude budget Android phones and focus on flagships, the price delta isn't that dramatic.

[DrMacintosh]

3 minutes ago, Takieght said:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2709502/Does-Apple-deliberately-slow-old-models-new-release-Searches-iPhone-slow-spike-ahead-launches.html

The run down: 

 

No, if they did you wouldn't be able to choose from the iPhone SE, 6s, 7, 8, or X. You would only being able to buy the 8 or X because the others were so damn slow because iOS updates are designed to make old iPhones unusable. 

[AvocadosGuac]

1 minute ago, Takieght said:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2709502/Does-Apple-deliberately-slow-old-models-new-release-Searches-iPhone-slow-spike-ahead-launches.html

"She said her iPhone 4 became a lot slower when she downloaded iOS 7 - and that the only solution seemed to be to buy the iPhone 5."

 

Well duh. The iphone 4 had a single core cpu. ios 7 was very demanding on it. Right now if you updated an s3 to the latest android version, it would probably be unusable.

 

[AvocadosGuac]

1 minute ago, losyav said:

com on it's just a PHONE 

to make and receive calls

only

get a cheap one and save the money for a good

TV or PS4 or PC etc

Agreed.

[DrMacintosh]

1 minute ago, losyav said:

com on it's just a PHONE 

to make and receive calls

only

get a cheap one and save the money for a good

TV or PS4 or PC etc

Most people need a  little more out of their phones than just making or receiving phone calls. 

 

 

[AvocadosGuac]

Just now, DrMacintosh said:

Most people need a  little more out of their phones than just making or receiving phone calls. 

 

 

Depends on the person..

[DrMacintosh]

1 minute ago, losyav said:

to play angry birds for example ??

Writing emails, texting, taking photos, writing essays in a pinch, rendering a quick video project, editing photos on the go, browsing the internet

 

The list is literally endless. Phones are utilities, you seem to think only a child would need a smartphone. And that spits in the face of the creators of this forum. 

[Mooshi]

If you do switch to an iPhone, do not use a lot of data right away if you don't have unlimited data. This is less of a problem now since more people are aware, but when Apple added WiFi Assist in iOS 9, we'd get so many pissed off customers who went over their data while using WiFi.

 

Settings > Cellular > WiFi Assist

 

 

[themctipers]

4 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

Most people need a  little more out of their phones than just making or receiving phone calls. 

 

 

to normies a phone is their internetting device

 

basically, aside from typing shit up they'll use their phone for everything else