Alphacool Announces The Eisbaer 420, World's Biggest AIO Solution

[Bananasplit_00]

14 hours ago, Th3pwn3r said:

With soft tubing it might as well be an AIO solution in my opinion. UNLESS you get a big boy radiator and pump. The tubing does not last forever by the way.

AIOs perform worse for your dollar though. you can make a soft tubeing loop that will both last longer and performs better for the cost of this cooler. used radiators cost basically nothing, the only costs you end up with are pump and block if you are fine with buying a coupple patrs used. fittings can be found for a few dollars a pop in perfect condition, and not shit ones even, i found EK ones for that price and they still set me back more then my 360 radiator and the tubeing just to drive home the point how inexpensive this can be. You can most likely do it with entirely new and unused parts if you want to. also AIO tubeing dosent last forever either  

[Curufinwe_wins]

If this is a 30 or thinner mm rad... it fits in the Define S. And I'm using a 420+280 myself.

 

Overkill for cpus but 280s already basically preform as well as 360s so a 420 is a really great dig. Been wanting a 420 aio on the market for ages.

 

120mm x fans and radiators need to start to disappear and case makers need to move to 140mm standard. The cooling performance jump is pretty substantial. 

[Curufinwe_wins]

4 hours ago, Bananasplit_00 said:

AIOs perform worse for your dollar though. you can make a soft tubeing loop that will both last longer and performs better for the cost of this cooler. used radiators cost basically nothing, the only costs you end up with are pump and block if you are fine with buying a coupple patrs used. fittings can be found for a few dollars a pop in perfect condition, and not shit ones even, i found EK ones for that price and they still set me back more then my 360 radiator and the tubeing just to drive home the point how inexpensive this can be. You can most likely do it with entirely new and unused parts if you want to. also AIO tubeing dosent last forever either  

Shocker... used is cheaper..  now tells us something relevant that we don't already know.

 

Making something like this new with decent custom parts is a solid 300 min dollars effort. plus your time. There is always a market for prebuilt solutions.

 

(Note before commenting, my main pc is custom loop) 

[4960X]

Most 240mm/280mm AIOs are about on par with high end air coolers such as the NH-D15 or maybe slightly better. I would still rather use an air cooler rather than get an AIO.

 

http://www.relaxedtech.com/reviews/noctua/nh-d15-versus-closed-loop-liquid-coolers/2

 

[leadeater]

5 hours ago, Curufinwe_wins said:

120mm x fans and radiators need to start to disappear and case makers need to move to 140mm standard. The cooling performance jump is pretty substantial. 

Well considering my case is designed for and only fits 120mm rads that's the last thing I'd want, all about me right .

 

Also 140mm rads don't fit in 3U cases, too high by 11.65mm.

[Jito463]

6 minutes ago, leadeater said:

Also 140mm rads don't fit in 3U cases, too high by 11.65mm.

So, tell them to make a 3.5U case.  

[Curufinwe_wins]

3 hours ago, leadeater said:

Well considering my case is designed for and only fits 120mm rads that's the last thing I'd want, all about me right .

 

Also 140mm rads don't fit in 3U cases, too high by 11.65mm.

The above commenter lol... and make new cases with 140mm mounts instead. Derp. 

[leadeater]

2 minutes ago, Curufinwe_wins said:

The above commenter lol... and make new cases with 140mm mounts instead. Derp. 

I probably will never replace my case, I paid way too much for it so I'll use it till it falls apart haha.

 

For the server cases I could just use 4U but that's a lot of space to waste when a 120mm rad works fine and looking in to it more a triple 140mm is too wide as well. Only reason I care is I'm planning on putting a bunch of rads and pumps in a 3U/4U case and cooling all my servers direct to chip to get the noise down.

 

I don't think the server industry is going to change away from 19" racks to 21" just for me either .

[Curufinwe_wins]

21 minutes ago, leadeater said:

I probably will never replace my case, I paid way too much for it so I'll use it till it falls apart haha.

 

For the server cases I could just use 4U but that's a lot of space to waste when a 120mm rad works fine and looking in to it more a triple 140mm is too wide as well. Only reason I care is I'm planning on putting a bunch of rads and pumps in a 3U/4U case and cooling all my servers direct to chip to get the noise down.

 

I don't think the server industry is going to change away from 19" racks to 21" just for me either .

True. But I can be perfectly pleased with my cheap Define S and it's robust 140mm support

[ARikozuM]

53 minutes ago, leadeater said:

Only reason I care is I'm planning on putting a bunch of rads and pumps in a 3U/4U case and cooling all my servers direct to chip to get the noise down.

Great cooling + low noise + 4U rack case = Not going to happen. 

 

 

[leadeater]

2 hours ago, ARikozuM said:

Great cooling + low noise + 4U rack case = Not going to happen. 

It can be done

 

The 3U/4U case is isn't going to be a server only top of rack cooling with 3 or 4 360mm rads with baffles to make sure air can only go through the rads and I'll use as many fans as I have at low rpm, which is at least 12.

[Th3pwn3r]

On 8/19/2017 at 8:49 AM, Bananasplit_00 said:

AIOs perform worse for your dollar though. you can make a soft tubeing loop that will both last longer and performs better for the cost of this cooler. used radiators cost basically nothing, the only costs you end up with are pump and block if you are fine with buying a coupple patrs used. fittings can be found for a few dollars a pop in perfect condition, and not shit ones even, i found EK ones for that price and they still set me back more then my 360 radiator and the tubeing just to drive home the point how inexpensive this can be. You can most likely do it with entirely new and unused parts if you want to. also AIO tubeing dosent last forever either  

$150 is what this cooler cost. You can do a junkyard build if you want to make it look like your custom loop is far cheaper than what it would normally be but in that case I could say we can buy used AIOs for far less too then. It's kind of silly. As of right now, the cheapest radiator I see on EKWB's site is $67.00 and you still need a lot more to complete your 'custom' loop that's only custom in the sense you got as many cheap parts as possible and just threw it together to work instead of actually building something CUSTOM that you really wanted or planned. I wouldn't design my custom loop around a $100 budget like you may like to but hey, to each his or her own.

19 hours ago, Curufinwe_wins said:

Shocker... used is cheaper..  now tells us something relevant that we don't already know.

 

Making something like this new with decent custom parts is a solid 300 min dollars effort. plus your time. There is always a market for prebuilt solutions.

 

(Note before commenting, my main pc is custom loop) 

Yeah, trying to compare a bunch of used parts to new in terms of costs is just silly.

15 hours ago, 4960X said:

Most 240mm/280mm AIOs are about on par with high end air coolers such as the NH-D15 or maybe slightly better. I would still rather use an air cooler rather than get an AIO.

 

http://www.relaxedtech.com/reviews/noctua/nh-d15-versus-closed-loop-liquid-coolers/2

 

I've always been a big fan of air cooling, since the days of when Thermalright was the big boy on the block. The reason I like water cooling is that a waterblock will fit a lot easier without obstructing my ram slots AND I can be assured the pressure on the heatsink from the waterblock will be what is needed for proper contact. All the weight of my Dark Rock Pro 3 might be causes me some issues and its stopping me from using some ram slots which sucks. Still, it's an awesome air cooler and looks great. However, a waterblock or even block with internal pump will fit a whole lot easier and allow me to use all of my ram slots without hanging on my board either.

11 hours ago, leadeater said:

I probably will never replace my case, I paid way too much for it so I'll use it till it falls apart haha.

 

For the server cases I could just use 4U but that's a lot of space to waste when a 120mm rad works fine and looking in to it more a triple 140mm is too wide as well. Only reason I care is I'm planning on putting a bunch of rads and pumps in a 3U/4U case and cooling all my servers direct to chip to get the noise down.

 

I don't think the server industry is going to change away from 19" racks to 21" just for me either .

Hey man, you can never have too many nice cases  I'm tempted to buy another sweet case, right now my favorite is my BeQuiet Dark Base Pro 900.

[leadeater]

13 minutes ago, Th3pwn3r said:

Hey man, you can never have too many nice cases  I'm tempted to buy another sweet case, right now my favorite is my BeQuiet Dark Base Pro 900.

Mine's the LD PC-V8 which 

[Misanthrope]

8 hours ago, leadeater said:

It can be done

 

The 3U/4U case is isn't going to be a server only top of rack cooling with 3 or 4 360mm rads with baffles to make sure air can only go through the rads and I'll use as many fans as I have at low rpm, which is at least 12.

Wait, you have a 3U case for your rig? Any particular reason? 

[leadeater]

1 minute ago, Misanthrope said:

Wait, you have a 3U case for your rig? Any particular reason? 

Nah see post above. I have 4 servers I currently want to cool with more to add later and I'm just going to plumb down the sides of my server rack and use quick disconnects. I currently use Corsair H55's for my larger servers but my other ones are 2U and AIO for those won't work. Mainly I just think it will be something fun to try.

[Th3pwn3r]

5 hours ago, leadeater said:

Mine's the LD PC-V8 which 

That is pricey BUT you could spend your money on other useless junk or snort it up your nose like some people...

At least with the case it's nice and will last you a lifetime.

[SpaceGhostC2C]

On 8/17/2017 at 4:39 AM, Deli said:

Oh, my Jesus. Whoever comments in this thread, actually owns a Eisbaer AIO? Please raise his hand.

 

I do have one, rebuild with better 3/8 tubing and expand with a GPU waterblock. So one 240 rad cools both CPU and GPU in one loop.

 

Whoever comments the pump is too weak or the tubing is too thin. Open their mouths without knowing jacksXXX.

 

 

Alphacool lost the LTT crowd the moment they went with function over form  

 

On 8/16/2017 at 5:07 AM, Misanthrope said:

 At this price points it's not too much to expect better looks honestly, even marginally so.

At which price point? For the same price as this AIO, NZXT sells you a 240mm AIO, and others like Be quiet! or EVGA give you a 280mm (to be fair, you could get the 360 Be quiet in the same range). Not sure about the expandability of those, though.