Apple: Innovation or Imitation?

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What have they genuinely created?  What do you think they've stolen from others?  In a world where most companies have done both at least once, how do you think the scales will tip for them going forward?

Edited June 18, 2017 by Ryan_Vickers
Reduced flamebaityness

[Damascus]

The new Apple charger - using revolutionary new technology to harvest the power of the sun to charge your iPhone! 

[domandric034]

Just now, Damascus said:

The new Apple charger - using revolutionary new technology to harvest the power of the sun to charge your iPhone! 

Here in Croatia an student from Zadar engineered this kind of bench :

 

Apple will steal it 100%.

[maxzug2]

Yea, the will probably steal that....

[Shiv78]

Apple will finally add quick and wireless charging at some point but you KNOW it will not be Qi-compatible or AirFuel capable. But they will ripoff the AirFuel name and call it AirCharge or some BS like that (let alone Qualcomm QC-capable, it will have 'lightning charging' )

 

[Jurrunio]

2 minutes ago, Shiv78 said:

Apple will finally add quick and wireless charging at some point but you KNOW it will not be Qi-compatible or AirFuel capable. But they will ripoff the AirFuel name and call it AirCharge or some BS like that (let alone Qualcomm QC-capable, it will have 'lightning charging' )

 

iCharge

[Shiv78]

1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

iCharge

They are not adding the "i" to any new products. 

[ZimFreak]

Either the Oculus Rift or Hololens. Before that, though, the GearVR.

[minibois]

Wirelessly charging mice

[Shiv78]

1 hour ago, Minibois said:

Wirelessly charging mice

nope they love having charging ports in idiotic positions

 

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[BuckGup]

They don't really steal stuff otherwise they would be hit with law suits. They watch, well used to, and see what people like. Take a bit from each brand that people liked and make the ultimate item. 

[Shiv78]

13 minutes ago, BuckGup said:

They don't really steal stuff otherwise they would be hit with law suits. They watch, well used to, and see what people like. Take a bit from each brand that people liked and make the ultimate item. 

So in your book that's not stealing?

 

[Drak3]

14 minutes ago, BuckGup said:

They don't really steal stuff otherwise they would be hit with law suits. They watch, well used to, and see what people like. Take a bit from each brand that people liked and make the ultimate item. 

They stole ideas constantly, patented them before anyone else could, and sued those that they stole from. They also had a large legal team for quite some time.

[BuckGup]

Just now, Shiv78 said:

So in your book that's not stealing?

 

No. It didn't exist before with all of the traits and now it does. Is every musician a thief because they used the same notes and patterns as others?

[PlayStation 2]

Lemme guess, they stole the smartphone fingerprint scanner because they actually made it feasible.

[Shiv78]

40 minutes ago, BuckGup said:

No. It didn't exist before with all of the traits and now it does. Is every musician a thief because they used the same notes and patterns as others?

So according to you this isn't stealing?

 

http://mashable.com/2012/10/27/apple-stolen-ideas/#dZBln_zyNZqs

https://www.fastcodesign.com/3016910/apples-inspiration-for-the-ipod-bang-olufsen-not-dieter-rams

[BuckGup]

14 minutes ago, Shiv78 said:

So according to you this isn't stealing?

 

http://mashable.com/2012/10/27/apple-stolen-ideas/#dZBln_zyNZqs

https://www.fastcodesign.com/3016910/apples-inspiration-for-the-ipod-bang-olufsen-not-dieter-rams

I mean come on. Some things hold true and Apple probably stole or reproduced someone else's idea but saying apple stole the idea of an mp3 player is kinda silly. They were the first to introduce a high end MP3 player that had iTunes. Now itunes is cancer but it was revolutionary back then

[The Sloth]

more genius design 

 

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1 hour ago, BuckGup said:

They don't really steal stuff otherwise they would be hit with law suits. They watch, well used to, and see what people like. Take a bit from each brand that people liked and make the ultimate item. 

More like, watch and see what people like, then remove it and make the, hm, well I'm not sure I'd call these "ultimate", but they then make some item  

 

 

Spoiler

 

1 hour ago, Shiv78 said:

nope they love having charging ports in idiotic positions

 

[Drak3]

17 minutes ago, BuckGup said:

They were the first to introduce a high end MP3 player

No, they weren't. They were the first to sell a high end MP3 player and market it as being the next big thing in the US.

[PlayStation 2]

2 minutes ago, Ryan_Vickers said:

More like, watch and see what people like, then remove it and make the, hm, well I'm not sure I'd call these "ultimate", but they then make some item  

 

 

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The 3.5mm headphone jack simply isn't the future. Bluetooth is quite viable save for charging and USB-C, hell, even Lightning will become viable once it catches on.

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Just now, Dan Castellaneta said:

The 3.5mm headphone jack simply isn't the future. Bluetooth is quite viable save for charging and USB-C, hell, even Lightning will become viable once it catches on.

Why would lightning ever catch on, it's only used by them?  If anything, I can see all devices going to USB C

[PlayStation 2]

Just now, Ryan_Vickers said:

Why would lightning ever catch on, it's only used by them?  If anything, I can see all devices going to USB C

I meant more on Apple products, my fault.

If Apple went USB-C on their phones, it'd definitely help with adoption, no doubt about it. I could see it happening, if not with this next iPhone, the one after that.

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Just now, Dan Castellaneta said:

I meant more on Apple products, my fault.

If Apple went USB-C on their phones, it'd definitely help with adoption, no doubt about it. I could see it happening, if not with this next iPhone, the one after that.

I think if they had at least gone USB C, and included two of them, people would have been a lot less angry about dropping the headphone jack.  Still angry, yes, but less so since at least in that situation you could argue they're just getting a head start on the future, but because of what they actually did, it's just a joke.