7900X reviewed!

[AnonymousGuy]

Just now, done12many2 said:

 

Yeah, they probably viewed that as some type of deception I'm sure.  I bet they honored your warranty though.  

Nope, confiscated it so it was a complete loss.  It was a legit RMA though....memory controller happened to die which wasn't my fault.

 

10 minutes ago, done12many2 said:

 

I can't do the math, but my 5 x 360mm rads might be just enough to boot a 7980XE at 4.5 GHz.  

 

Boiiiiii don't make me add another 16x140 to it

[Taf the Ghost]

19 minutes ago, AnonymousGuy said:

Heh, I have  1260mm worth of rad space, capacity to expand it up to 3000mm+, and 25 gallons of thermal mass.  I ordered a .925 silver Aquacomputer NEXT Vario *just* for the 7980XE and also have a Alphacool Eisblock XPX on the shelf untouched.  My body is ready for this debauchery of delid direct die watercooling.

 

Intel is rolling with the 90s theme. Need to use the era-appropriate memes.

[Dylanc1500]

41 minutes ago, AnonymousGuy said:

Heh, I have  1260mm worth of rad space, capacity to expand it up to 3000mm+, and 25 gallons of thermal mass.  I ordered a .925 silver Aquacomputer NEXT Vario *just* for the 7980XE and also have a Alphacool Eisblock XPX on the shelf untouched.  My body is ready for this debauchery of delid direct die watercooling.

Damn you might as well go variable phase change. You might actually save some space lol. Heck you could still go direct die.

[VagabondWraith]

Is Intel still offering the "overclocking warranty" or whatever they call it. I may purchase it for my 7820X in case I want to... experiment.  

[done12many2]

4 minutes ago, VagabondWraith said:

Is Intel still offering the "overclocking warranty" or whatever they call it. I may purchase it for my 7820X in case I want to... experiment.  

 

Yes, it's called Performance Tuning Protection Plan (PTPP) and is available here.

 

You're able to purchase it up to one year from your original purchase date.

[Drak3]

1 minute ago, VagabondWraith said:

Is Intel still offering the "overclocking warranty"

Well, if the one random Intel employee is anything to go by, no. They'd rather shoot you, actually

 

But if you're a reasonable person, like most of Intel (hopefully), probably. They're still going to be offering chips with overclocking as an explicit feature, so they'll probably keep offering it.

[VagabondWraith]

36 minutes ago, done12many2 said:

 

Yes, it's called Performance Tuning Protection Plan (PTPP) and is available here.

 

You're able to purchase it up to one year from your original purchase date.

Thanks bud!

[StormEye]

Shit... I was sort of set on going AMD for my next upgrade, but I am having second thoughts...

[79wjd]

8 hours ago, MageTank said:

I just don't really understand the whole "non-transferring" aspect of warranties. As long as the product failed within it's normal warranty window, it really shouldn't matter whether or not the product was transferred to another owner. Then again, I don't really understand business in general.

I think there are two reasons. First is that they probably could get around warranty related consumer protection laws, and so they did to save money. Secondly, warranty is no longer a selling point -- a bad warranty will lead to less sales for a manufacturer, but secondary sales will likely barely suffer at all (not to mention that worse secondary sales would have a delayed impact anyway, and frankly I think used buyers are less concerned about a warranty anyway).

 

TL;DR it's the best business decision.

[dexT]

RIP @PCGuy_5960's name by Linus. Thread made WAN if any consolation

[PCGuy_5960]

7 hours ago, dexT said:

RIP @PCGuy_5960's name by Linus. 

LOL, his criticism was spot on, so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[domandric034]

Lets remind linus a bit

[PCGuy_5960]

14 hours ago, Valentyn said:

Reaching 100c  at 4.7Ghz with 1.3V !!  Both Noctua D15S and 280mm AIO couldn't cope.

You're cherry picking..... It also said that they were able to get 4.7GHz at 1.25V, which is extremely impressive!

[sof006]

Not worth it if its only slightly better than a cheaper Ryzen chip. AMD has it in the bag. 

[PCGuy_5960]

Just now, sof006 said:

Not worth it if its only slightly better than a cheaper Ryzen chip. AMD has it in the bag. 

Does it look like it's only slightly better to you?

[leadeater]

8 minutes ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

Does it look like it's only slightly better to you?

Kind of depends but as they noted in one of the tests a bios upgrade like doubled the performance, one single early review even from a trusted source shouldn't be used to pass final judgement.

 

AMD did crush it in all the value graphs but if you're not actually interested in that those mean nothing, and in that case the 7700K is a thing. If you have $1000 to spend you're not going to buy 300-400 CPU because it's better value.

 

Most of this is TBD until more reviews and to an extent TBD Threadripper but if someone went out and got a 7900X they won't be disappointed, not with the CPU at least but the motherboard/X299 stuff maybe but even with that for this CPU the only bad thing is the RAID keys.

[Valentyn]

49 minutes ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

You're cherry picking..... It also said that they were able to get 4.7GHz at 1.25V, which is extremely impressive!

Not cherry picking, picking THE ONLY temp they mentioned. 

Now if they showed temps at "stock" and 4.7@ 1.25V I'd pick those. As it stand they only mention the temps once, and that's 100c in Cinebench, without AVX loads.

[PCGuy_5960]

14 hours ago, done12many2 said:

I had a couple of bad experiences with MSI CS and I'm not a fan of their BIOS/UEFI. 

MSI isn't very good AFAIK. ASUS is the best and then Gigabyte/AsRock depending on the chipset

[Taf the Ghost]

36 minutes ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

Does it look like it's only slightly better to you?

With the leaked benchmarks we currently have... yeah. There's a brand new cache architecture and the optimization for the Intel Cache system seemed to be mostly what separated a lot of the 7700k and Ryzen gaming results.   X299 should improve in scores as optimizations come down/BIOS get updated.

[PCGuy_5960]

Just now, Valentyn said:

Not cherry picking, picking THE ONLY temp they mentioned. 

Now if they showed temps at "stock" and 4.7@ 1.25V I'd pick those. As it stand they only mention the temps once, and that's 100c in Cinebench, without AVX loads.

Yeah, but this is more of an early review/preview TBH

[domandric034]

17 minutes ago, leadeater said:

Most of this is TBD until more reviews and to an extent TBD Threadripper but if someone went out and got a 7900X they won't be disappointed, not with the CPU at least but the motherboard/X299 stuff maybe but even with that for this CPU the only bad thing is the RAID keys.

So true. Money scam politics on chipset and motherboard side is a very very big shame. 

[Valentyn]

1 minute ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

Yeah, but this is more of an early review/preview TBH

 

They could easily have recorded the temps during all their cinebench runs. I'm going by what they mentioned, and showed. Despite the Voltage, the temps are horrific so far.

Then again, as I mentioned before looks like this is just a rush to cash in on clicks; rather than an actual review; which just means I'll be avoiding Hexus in the future if this is the type of "quality" they're going to put out.

[PCGuy_5960]

1 minute ago, Valentyn said:

They could easily have recorded the temps during all their cinebench runs. I'm going by what they mentioned, and showed. Despite the Voltage, the temps are horrific so far.

Monitoring software may have not been working..... TJMax is 100C iirc, so it's easy to understand if the CPU reaches 100C

[Valentyn]

Just now, PCGuy_5960 said:

Monitoring software may have not been working..... TJMax is 100C iirc, so it's easy to understand if the CPU reaches 100C

Man, 100c in cinebench on a D15S, and 280mm AIO is not nice to read.

Cinebench isn't AIDA64 levels, never mind Handbrake or Prime95.

Gotta wonder though, if it was soldered, would it have dropped another nice 10c off the peak result stopping that throttling.

June 26th can't come soon enough really. I want to see the proper indepth reviews.

 

Also isn't Threadripper also launching the 27th same time as Vega Frontier? Would be nice if the reviewers could have a proper shootout between it all.

[OriAr]

Just now, Valentyn said:

Man, 100c in cinebench on a D15S, and 280mm AIO is not nice to read.

Cinebench isn't AIDA64 levels, never mind Handbrake or Prime95.

Gotta wonder though, if it was soldered, would it have dropped another nice 10c off the peak result stopping that throttling.

June 26th can't come soon enough really. I want to see the proper indepth reviews.

 

Also isn't Threadripper also launching the 27th same time as Vega Frontier? Would be nice if the reviewers could have a proper shootout between it all.

TR isn't launching until August at the earliest