7900X reviewed!

[tom_w141]

1 minute ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

Many programs that are useful to people buying such CPUs can use AVX

For? I mean you are buying one afterall

[done12many2]

Just now, tom_w141 said:

So rather insignificant then  just seeing a lot of AVX-512 being banded around as a vital feature and wondered what it was useful for

 

Yeah, there's very little known about what will support AVX-512, but it damn sure is going to be a hell of a lot faster then AVX or AVX2.  Either way, I'm glad to have the option, which is better then to not.

 

Just now, tom_w141 said:

 

Regarding the OP (the post not you):

 

- Yeah 10 cores beat 8 who'd a guessed it?

 

We already knew it.  It wasn't really a guess.  

 

Just now, tom_w141 said:

 

- No mention of Thermals so i'm guessing it ran warm

 

Guys are hitting 4.6 GHz and above without delidding with a 10 core chip.  Who cares?  I'm sure that if Intel managed to find a way to actually slow down their silcon to say a 4 GHz limitation, the chip would run nice an cool.  

 

Just now, tom_w141 said:

- Single core as expected (but you would be mad to spend this much on a cpu if you intend to do single core tasks)

 

Some of us want our cake and to eat it to.  If having that option costs more money, then so be it.  I'll still buy a Threadripper too, but I know it will be more limited in this fashion.  To be expected though as it's going to be cheaper with more limitations.  No big deal.  

 

Just now, tom_w141 said:

- Multi core nothing to write home about marginally better than the 6950X

 

But with a great deal more headroom for overclocking.  

 

Just now, tom_w141 said:

Need to wait for threadripper to compare results, comparing to an 8 core is a waste of time (even though you could buy 3 8 core R7 systems (mobo + cpu) for the cost of this 1 cpu  

 

Again, value is important to you and you selected the right platform for you.  

[PCGuy_5960]

Just now, tom_w141 said:

For? I mean you are buying one afterall

I am going to buy one and all I do is play games. I just want it because it can overclock to 4.6-5GHz

[VagabondWraith]

39 minutes ago, done12many2 said:

Could it be where the store the AVX goodness?  

 

You know I'm just having too much fun now @MageTank.

@MageTank

 

Yeah, that AVX512 will show a tremendous advantage.  

[domandric034]

Fuck all those Core i9's, Threadrippers, Core i7's /s

This one is the best : 

[samcool55]

9 minutes ago, DildorTheDecent said:

generally tho. The n00b tools make it easy. 

The problem is that there are resistors or whatever are close to the glue that holds the IHS, it's possible you pull them off when delidding regardless of how careful you are.

[tom_w141]

4 minutes ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

I am going to buy one and all I do is play games. I just want it because it can overclock to 4.6-5GHz

*looks at gaming results* oh sucks for you then  you'd be better off with a 7700k save your money bro  

[PCGuy_5960]

Just now, samcool55 said:

The problem is that there are resistors or whatever are close to the glue that holds the IHS, it's possible you pull them off when delidding regardless of how careful you are.

Who cares? Just glue it back together, RMA it and get a new one for free

[TacoSenpai]

3 minutes ago, domandric034 said:

Fuck all those Core i9's, Threadrippers, Core i7's /s

This one is the best : 

Screw all these new ones I'm bringin it back to the Pentium 4

[PCGuy_5960]

Just now, tom_w141 said:

*looks at gaming results* oh sucks for you then  you'd be better off with a 7700k save your money bro  

I don't want to lose 2 cores tho  Idk TBH, I may get a Ryzen system if the 7820X isn't way better

[domandric034]

1 minute ago, LordTaco42 said:

Screw all these new ones I'm bringin it back to the Pentium 4

Screw Pentium 4. AMD Athlon Thunderbird is best

[tom_w141]

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Yeah, there's very little known about what will support AVX-512, but it damn sure is going to be a hell of a lot faster then AVX or AVX2.  Either way, I'm glad to have the option, which is better then to not.

So "I don't know what i'll use it for or why I need but darn they said its good"

 

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Guys are hitting 4.6 GHz and above without delidding with a 10 core chip.  Who cares?  I'm sure that if Intel managed to find a way to actually slow down their silcon to say a 4 GHz limitation, the chip would run nice an cool.

You know what would also run cool? Not cutting corners and soldering it like X99 and Ryzen. Its expensive enough to justify some quality.

 

Why didn't I quote the rest? Well I agree that's why  

 

 

[samcool55]

Just now, PCGuy_5960 said:

Who cares? Just glue it back together, RMA it and get a new one for free

It's intel, they don't know what support is tbh.

Last story i read was of a guy that got a cpu from a relative that died, Intel didn't give him a new one becuause the RMA had to be requested by the dead person which is clearly not a possibility D:

[PCGuy_5960]

1 minute ago, tom_w141 said:

Not cutting corners and soldering it like X99 and Ryzen.

I don't think they are cutting corners, soldering shouldn't be that hard to do, they probably ran into other issues

[TacoSenpai]

2 minutes ago, domandric034 said:

Screw Pentium 4. AMD Athlon Thunderbird is best

Intel 8086 best value tbh

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/copyright-1984-Intel-8086-2-chip-vintage-personal-computer-CPU-/252955492699?hash=item3ae552815b:g:NnQAAOSwhQhYx1va

[tom_w141]

1 minute ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

I don't think they are cutting corners, soldering shouldn't be that hard to do, they probably ran into other issues

Sure they did $

[domandric034]

2 minutes ago, LordTaco42 said:

Intel 8086 best value tbh

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/copyright-1984-Intel-8086-2-chip-vintage-personal-computer-CPU-/252955492699?hash=item3ae552815b:g:NnQAAOSwhQhYx1va

Nah nah too weak. This is the revolutionary CPU : 

Renders everything in 1 sec with 1/2 core @ 1 Hz

 

 

[TacoSenpai]

1 minute ago, domandric034 said:

Nah nah too weak. This is the revolutionary CPU : 

Renders everything in 1 sec with 1/2 core.

 

 

Damn I give up too much effort to troll after that you win.  Now I need to do enlightenment brain meme but now with CPUs...

[domandric034]

This is currently weaker than AMD Athlon Thunderbird. Takes 1 year to render 1 sec of anime.

[ashypanda]

so according to those graphs ryzen still offers the best value CPUs.

[PCGuy_5960]

Just now, ashypanda said:

so according to those graphs ryzen still offers the best value CPUs.

No shit Sherlock

[domandric034]

Just now, ashypanda said:

so according to those graphs ryzen still offers the best value CPUs.

Nope this CPU does : 

[TahoeDust]

Just now, ashypanda said:

so according to those graphs ryzen still offers the best value CPUs.

Probably.  Skylake X is not really a "Value" oriented product.

[done12many2]

13 minutes ago, tom_w141 said:

So "I don't know what i'll use it for or why I need but darn they said its good"

 

I think you misunderstood me.  I already use plenty of stuff that uses AVX and AVX2, both of which perform substantially better on a modern day Intel chip then a current AMD chip.  They may not be very well known, but Adobe products and Handbrake (especially H.265, but H.264 as well) love some AVX and AVX2.  

 

While AVX-512 hasn't been integrated into anything that I currently use, I'll still enjoy the non-crippled benefits of the current standards.  

 

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You know what would also run cool? Not cutting corners and soldering it like X99 and Ryzen. Its expensive enough to justify some quality.

 

Yet the thermals don't appear to be the problem you implied or previously stated when highlighting Skylake-X's lack of solder.  Not nearly "the sky's falling" scenario that some folks painted.  

 

Rest assured that if you could possibly make a Ryzen chip run at 4.5 GHz or higher using water, it too would run a tad bit warmer then you think.   Especially when you watch the sharp rise in voltage required for most to hit 4 GHz (if they are lucky).    The fact is, you can't so we'll never know, but feel free to talk about how warm an Intel chip is getting at 4.6 - 5.0 GHz on water.  At least Intel was nice enough to provide us a chip that can do it so that you can talk about it sucking thermally.  

 

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Why didn't I quote the rest? Well I agree that's why  

 

Nice!

[PCGuy_5960]

2 minutes ago, done12many2 said:

Rest assured that if you could possibly make a Ryzen chip run at 4.5 GHz or higher using water, it too would run a tad bit warmer then you think.   Especially when you watch the sharp rise in voltage required for most to hit 4 GHz (if they are lucky).  

To get more than 4.0GHz on Ryzen you need at least 1.5V