AMD Epyc 7000 series revealed

[iamdarkyoshi]

14 hours ago, revsilverspine said:

They're gonna pull a 34c/68t CPU out of their asses, duh.

I want a 69 core CPU

[ARikozuM]

3 minutes ago, iamdarkyoshi said:

I want a 69 core CPU

This poses a very interesting question... If it takes two to "69", why isn't 69 divisible by 2? 

The world may never know.

[AnonymousGuy]

10 minutes ago, JuNex03 said:

Lol "Insufficient Memory to Load²". Its like they're saying it's not just shit, but Shit²

According to https://www.kingston.com/us/memory/resources/broadwell-ep, it supports 768GB of memory in a 2S configuration and up to 3TB at the high end, so what exactly were they proving?  That if you don't fully populate the memory slots you run out of memory on Intel?  No shit!

 

Once again...AMD marketing...don't trust it.

[Dylanc1500]

2 minutes ago, AnonymousGuy said:

According to https://www.kingston.com/us/memory/resources/broadwell-ep, it supports 768GB of memory in a 2S configuration and up to 3TB at the high end, so what exactly were they proving?  That if you don't fully populate the memory slots you run out of memory on Intel?  No shit!

 

Once again...AMD marketing...don't trust it.

I'm so confused by how they honestly got that amount. If it was seriously because they didn't populate all the slots, I would be highly disappointed in AMD.

[AnonymousGuy]

5 minutes ago, Dylanc1500 said:

I'm so confused by how they honestly got that amount. If it was seriously because they didn't populate all the slots, I would be highly disappointed in AMD.

Found it.  "Intel has a max of 384GB*"

 

*if you use 16GB DIMMs.

 

.....wow AMD, it's almost like 32,64, and 128GB DIMMs don't even exist!

[Dylanc1500]

9 minutes ago, AnonymousGuy said:

Found it.  "Intel has a max of 384GB*"

 

*if you use 16GB DIMMs.

 

.....wow AMD, it's almost like 32,64, and 128GB DIMMs don't even exist!

You have got to be kidding me right? Also im assuming they were testing against 4 channel broadwell? I'm trying to keep up on stuff but being in the hospital makes it a little hard lol.

[AnonymousGuy]

3 minutes ago, Dylanc1500 said:

You have got to be kidding me right? Also im assuming they were testing against 4 channel broadwell? I'm trying to keep up on stuff but being in the hospital makes it a little hard lol.

Yeah looks like 3 DIMMs per channel, 24 slots on 2S Intel.  I'd have to get out my cheatsheet to see the max memory supported on Skylake Xeons which Epyc will actually be competing against.

[Dylanc1500]

7 minutes ago, AnonymousGuy said:

Yeah looks like 3 DIMMs per channel, 24 slots on 2S Intel.  I'd have to get out my cheatsheet to see the max memory supported on Skylake Xeons which Epyc will actually be competing against.

Max per socket on Skylake is 2,304 gb possible per socket on Skylake. Remember it's hex channel on Skylake with 3 128gb  2666 DIMMs per channel.

[Jito463]

52 minutes ago, AnonymousGuy said:

Once again...AMD marketing...don't trust it.

I fixed it for you, you're welcome.  All marketing is to be taken with a massive grain of salt, no matter if it's from AMD, Intel, Apple, et al.

[AnonymousGuy]

8 minutes ago, Jito463 said:

I fixed it for you, you're welcome.  All marketing is to be taken with a massive grain of salt, no matter if it's from AMD, Intel, Apple, et al.

AMD is far worse than Intel on that front.  I can give you a whole list of shit that AMD's marketing team hyped up for Ryzen that was stuff Intel has had for years.

 

Example:

SenseMi...neural  network machine learning cumming in your mouth new feature for Ryzen!

 

Reality: it's branch prediction that Intel doesn't even bother advertising let alone giving some bullshit marketing name.

 

If you remember back to the Bulldozer and followup launches...every fucking time AMD's marketing team hyped it up like they were going to be coming back from behind and beating Intel.  I probably have a forum post from 5 years ago that can be quoted as "AMD's marketing team writes checks their engineering team can't cash".

[LAwLz]

29 minutes ago, Jito463 said:

I fixed it for you, you're welcome.  All marketing is to be taken with a massive grain of salt, no matter if it's from AMD, Intel, Apple, et al.

What's sad is that a lot of people will not agree with you. When Ryzen leaks were everywhere I had someone literally say to me that they trust AMD's marketing material more than Anandtech.

[TheKDub]

R.I.P Intel.

[tom_w141]

180W TDP on a 32 Core not bad, I think that is around 7700k thermals

 

 

 

/s

[iamdarkyoshi]

Just now, tom_w141 said:

180W TDP on a 32 Core not bad, I think that is around 7700k thermals

 

 

 

/s

No seriously I agree, my 6700k throttled with a fairly large cooler at stock clocks, delidded it and it can now dl 4.6ghz easy on the very same cooler

[tom_w141]

4 minutes ago, iamdarkyoshi said:

No seriously I agree, my 6700k throttled with a fairly large cooler at stock clocks, delidded it and it can now dl 4.6ghz easy on the very same cooler

I was also semi serious, the /s is just compulsory as there are some die hard blue knights on this forum and they don't respond well to this kind of humour  

[Doobeedoo]

Epyc lineup, hue :3

[NumLock21]

Threadripper's underside. I assume it's the same for Epyc.

[Taf the Ghost]

Same number of pins, but the underside would be different, because there would be 4 packages rather than 2.

[NumLock21]

3 hours ago, Taf the Ghost said:

Same number of pins, but the underside would be different, because there would be 4 packages rather than 2.

It will be the same.

[leadeater]

3 hours ago, NumLock21 said:

It will be the same.

It'll have to be being the same socket, minor revision aside. We aren't going to see 4 of those square areas because then the number of pins wouldn't fit. 

 

Edit:

Also if you look at the engineering sample motherboard photos for TR the CPU socket lid actually has SP3 printed on it, EYPC's socket.

[LukaH]

those TDPs..... even the 8c/16t part is at 120W I don't get it. maybe they really integrated the whole chipset onto the cpu?

[Taf the Ghost]

8 hours ago, leadeater said:

It'll have to be being the same socket, minor revision aside. We aren't going to see 4 of those square areas because then the number of pins wouldn't fit. 

 

Edit:

Also if you look at the engineering sample motherboard photos for TR the CPU socket lid actually has SP3 printed on it, EYPC's socket.

Threadripper should be SP3r2. It seems to have been what came from the Snowy Owl product line.  (Though that might still exist, but I don't think we've heard anything about it in a long while. Though it's more custom hardware.)

[leadeater]

6 minutes ago, Taf the Ghost said:

Threadripper should be SP3r2. It seems to have been what came from the Snowy Owl product line.  (Though that might still exist, but I don't think we've heard anything about it in a long while. Though it's more custom hardware.)

Snowy Owl is a totally different socket all together and is BGA not LGA.

 

Edit:

Reason why we haven't heard anything is because it's an APU with Vega in it, there isn't anything really to show considering all the other factors relating to Vega.

 

Edit 2:

Nope haven't updated my info, initial reports of Snowy Owl being an APU were wrong that's Horned Owl. Still Snowy Owl is a low power BGA design for communications/network servers etc.

[NumLock21]

8 hours ago, leadeater said:

It'll have to be being the same socket, minor revision aside. We aren't going to see 4 of those square areas because then the number of pins wouldn't fit. 

And 4 dies on epyc, does not mean 4 square holes in the socket. 

[PCGuy_5960]

16 hours ago, NumLock21 said:

Threadripper's underside. I assume it's the same for Epyc.

It will be similar, but probably not the same, because EPYC has 4 dies and Threadripper has 2