AMD VS Intel Two Different Builds, What to Pick?

[Cryptonite]

Now that I think about it though, I just explained that I wont be doing TOO many PC game recordings, and with livestreaming I know a guy that always livestreams with an i5 and does perfectly fine (It lags sometimes, but its rare and remember its an i5 not an i7 like the Xeon would be) so actually if you think about it, the Xeon WOULD be better, but the AMD build comes with more (like for example A CASE, again I'd probably get one in the future, but i'm just saying opposed to right away).

The i5 only lags a bit now, but as I said with things moving multicore related nowadays I wouldn't go for that. The xeon would be better than the i5 yes, but better than the 8320 for streaming? nah. The fact that you get more with the amd should take away all doubt of which you should buy as their performance difference in most things are minuscule anyway. 

 

I'm interested in OC'ing, but I don't mind the standard 4Ghz that it comes with, in that case, should I ditch the cooler and get a Sabertoorth motherboard then?

I'd stick with an aftermarket cooler.

[Cryptonite]

i have a biostar tk+z67 or somecrap like that. My gigabyte ud3 die for no apparent reason outside the warranty range and i was on a hurry$$

 

The biostar cost me like 40$ in a sale, and is running my 2500k at 4.6ghz for over a year now. Never 1 reboot, and on stock voltages. I would say even if it dies right now, it would be completely worth it. For that money i couldnt even buy an asus h61

Biostar, for those who want cheap reliable performance with no added BS. 

[MeesterJackson]

The i5 only lags a bit now, but as I said with things moving multicore related nowadays I wouldn't go for that. The xeon would be better than the i5 yes, but better than the 8320 for streaming? nah. The fact that you get more with the amd should take away all doubt of which you should buy as their performance difference in most things are minuscule anyway. 

 

I'd stick with an aftermarket cooler.

It's not like I wouldn't get one, I either A: would get a cheaper one, or B: wait another month or two and then get one. 

[Memphaestus]

I'm interested in OC'ing, but I don't mind the standard 4Ghz that it comes with, in that case, should I ditch the cooler and get a Sabertoorth motherboard then?

The board is okay to do some decent overclocking, but the Sabertooth is a significantly better board.  That said, I would suggest putting more money into the CPU and cooler first.  For $15 more than the Xigmatek, you can get yourself a Corsair H60 water cooler, which will get you significantly better temperatures.  Basically I'd spend money on something that will be better in the longer run.  Spending $40 more to get the 8350 would be the first step.  Maybe go with just the stock cpu cooler on the 8350 for an extra month at stock speeds so that you can save up a few more dollars for a better cooler.  You might also consider getting a TX650 psu, as it will be enough power for what you're building, for the same price, but with better components.  But of course that does depend on what card you end up getting. 

[TechFan@ic]

FX 8320s can definitely hit 4.8Ghz, in fact on OCN's overclocking data base, an FX 8320 held the record for the highest overclock for the first 6 months.
I have my FX 8320 overclocked to 4.44Ghz on 1.38v which is the stock voltage, my cooler can't handle more than 1.38v (Notcua NH-C14) so I stopped at 4.44Ghz, with a Corsair H100i or an NZXT Kraken X60 you'll be able to take it to 4.8-5.0Ghz without issue.

[ALXAndy]

I voted AMD because the Intel is locked. And it hurts, badly. I just came from a Xeon to a 8320.

[Kratikos]

Here's the truth and I'll make it short for the ones that are not understanding his needs.

Fx 8320 will do just fine.

If you're not on a budget go with intell 3990k 6 core

If you are on a budget go with AMD 8320 with a corsair h80i for OCing.

More cores the better for rendering, gaming, and steaming. With mantle either 8350 or 8320 will be prefect, and 4770k is a bad investment given the money that you will save.

You're on a budget, so AMD will always be the better pick. If you want the best of the best then $600 intell chip is your only option.

[ViruZ_HUN]

AMD

[MeesterJackson]

I voted AMD because the Intel is locked. And it hurts, badly. I just came from a Xeon to a 8320.

Why?...Which one did you have?

[MeesterJackson]

AMD

Someone didn't notice me say "explain why"

[MeesterJackson]

Here's the truth and I'll make it short for the ones that are not understanding his needs.

Fx 8320 will do just fine.

If you're not on a budget go with intell 3990k 6 core

If you are on a budget go with AMD 8320 with a corsair h80i for OCing.

More cores the better for rendering, gaming, and steaming. With mantle either 8350 or 8320 will be prefect, and 4770k is a bad investment given the money that you will save.

You're on a budget, so AMD will always be the better pick. If you want the best of the best then $600 intell chip is your only option.

HAHA. No thank you Mr. Postman, the day I buy a 600 dollar processor is the day I have either 3 jobs or I have one job that pays me over 100K a year. 

[ViruZ_HUN]

AMD

 

That AMD cpu will preform better then that xeon CPU in gaming also u can overclock that AMD cpu to run at 5 ghz stabile if u get a good overclocker which the customers almost always get from AMD cpus. and fx8350 is already higher clocked at stock clocks an if u get an AMD build u can spemd more on a GPU.

[ViruZ_HUN]

HAHA. No thank you Mr. Postman, the day I buy a 600 dollar processor is the day I have either 3 jobs or I have one job that pays me over 100K a year. 

well everything he said is not bullshit. more cores= better but a qaud core will preform better in gaming. but in rendering a 6 core will make you happy. also if you want to go intel you dont need to buy at least a 6 core( which you called (mp.postman) said. i think postman said that 4770k is a bad choice but its not but u have a tiny budget thats why i would recommend a AMD Fx8320 build or a i5 4670k

 

 

Here's the truth and I'll make it short for the ones that are not understanding his needs.

Fx 8320 will do just fine.

If you're not on a budget go with intell 3990k 6 core

If you are on a budget go with AMD 8320 with a corsair h80i for OCing.

More cores the better for rendering, gaming, and steaming. With mantle either 8350 or 8320 will be prefect, and 4770k is a bad investment given the money that you will save.

You're on a budget, so AMD will always be the better pick. If you want the best of the best then $600 intell chip is your only option.

[MeesterJackson]

well everything he said is not bullshit. more cores= better but a qaud core will preform better in gaming. but in rendering a 6 core will make you happy. also if you want to go intel you dont need to buy at least a 6 core( which you called (mp.postman) said. i think postman said that 4770k is a bad choice but its not but u have a tiny budget thats why i would recommend a AMD Fx8320 build or a i5 4670k

Again, the Xeon is a 275 dollars i7 4770. WHY would I get the 4670K when even OC'd a bit cannot beat an i7?

[MeesterJackson]

That AMD cpu will preform better then that xeon CPU in gaming also u can overclock that AMD cpu to run at 5 ghz stabile if u get a good overclocker which the customers almost always get from AMD cpus. and fx8350 is already higher clocked at stock clocks an if u get an AMD build u can spemd more on a GPU.

The Xeon would out perform the AMD Chip, it's an i7 just with no iGPU.

[ViruZ_HUN]

Again, the Xeon is a 275 dollars i7 4770. WHY would I get the 4670K when even OC'd a bit cannot beat an i7?

i thought you want to OC?

also Xeon is not OCable and OC will be needed in the future if you want to run 2 way sli with newer cards like 290X or dual 880s(when it comes).

ALso i have i7 2600 and i am risky to bottleneck 2 780s if i want that, i cant keep my 2600 becuze i cant OC, okay i can OC a bit but tis a NON K and its risky.

I would recommend you to save up to an i7 4770k and OC it when it needs in a fue years.

[ViruZ_HUN]

The Xeon would out perform the AMD Chip, it's an i7 just with no iGPU.

 

i know that have heard lots of these socket 1150s but i wouldn't buy one:/

[Jack.EXE]

It's probably my professional fanboy talking, but I'd go with the 8320, as for motherboards I'd recommend the ECS A990FXM-A

[ilikemacandpc]

AMD b/c better perf. for $$$

[Old Man Snail]

Go with the Xeon as it's an i7 but cheaper. You just can't OC but there is no need to unless you want 1 extra FPS in games

[ALXAndy]

Why?...Which one did you have?

 

I had a Xeon E3 1220 (I5 2400, more cache, no IGPU). It had a turbo of 3.4ghz and Crysis 3 basically handed it its ass. It was useless, couldn't even keep a min FPS of more than low 20s with 670s in SLI.

 

There are ways to overclock Sandy CPUs with Turbo (you get 4x on the multi for overclocking the turbo function) but it was woefully bad due to the derped clock speeds.

 

I went to an AMD 8320 @ 4.2ghz (board I had then was crap) and I got over double the FPS.

 

Lesson learned, never, ever buy a locked CPU. And Xeons are locked, really well. From what I hear Haswell ones don't even have the 4x turbo overclock function. And that CPU could be the best in the world but when a game is crying out for MHZ and GHZ you're then fucked.

 

On Intel the only CPU I see as worth buying is the 4770k and above. That is the only area where they absolutely and conclusively beat anything AMD have to offer. For anything less? 8320 or 6300/50. I've got my 8320 all day stable at 4.9ghz now and have done Cinebench runs @ 5.2ghz on a H100. That's an awful lot of power and cores for £113.

[MeesterJackson]

I had a Xeon E3 1220 (I5 2400, more cache, no IGPU). It had a turbo of 3.4ghz and Crysis 3 basically handed it its ass. It was useless, couldn't even keep a min FPS of more than low 20s with 670s in SLI.

 

There are ways to overclock Sandy CPUs with Turbo (you get 4x on the multi for overclocking the turbo function) but it was woefully bad due to the derped clock speeds.

 

I went to an AMD 8320 @ 4.2ghz (board I had then was crap) and I got over double the FPS.

 

Lesson learned, never, ever buy a locked CPU. And Xeons are locked, really well. From what I hear Haswell ones don't even have the 4x turbo overclock function. And that CPU could be the best in the world but when a game is crying out for MHZ and GHZ you're then fucked.

 

On Intel the only CPU I see as worth buying is the 4770k and above. That is the only area where they absolutely and conclusively beat anything AMD have to offer. For anything less? 8320 or 6300/50. I've got my 8320 all day stable at 4.9ghz now and have done Cinebench runs @ 5.2ghz on a H100. That's an awful lot of power and cores for £113.

You had a V1 Xeon? Sandy Bridge right? That's why it sucked. Ivy and higher Xeons rule and gaming, there's a video of a guy playing Crysis 3 on his E3 Xeon V2 1230 and it kicks the games arse. 

[MeesterJackson]

Here's the truth and I'll make it short for the ones that are not understanding his needs.

Fx 8320 will do just fine.

If you're not on a budget go with intell 3990k 6 core

If you are on a budget go with AMD 8320 with a corsair h80i for OCing.

More cores the better for rendering, gaming, and steaming. With mantle either 8350 or 8320 will be prefect, and 4770k is a bad investment given the money that you will save.

You're on a budget, so AMD will always be the better pick. If you want the best of the best then $600 intell chip is your only option.

The Xeon is a 275 dollars i7. That is a STEAL in terms of pricing. Also it;s confirmed mantle support is on Intel CPU's too. 

[MeesterJackson]

i thought you want to OC?

also Xeon is not OCable and OC will be needed in the future if you want to run 2 way sli with newer cards like 290X or dual 880s(when it comes).

ALso i have i7 2600 and i am risky to bottleneck 2 780s if i want that, i cant keep my 2600 becuze i cant OC, okay i can OC a bit but tis a NON K and its risky.

I would recommend you to save up to an i7 4770k and OC it when it needs in a fue years.

I really am on the fence with OC'ing, I just know because stock coolers blow that I'm going to need an aftermarket anyways. 

[MeesterJackson]

It's probably my professional fanboy talking, but I'd go with the 8320, as for motherboards I'd recommend the ECS A990FXM-A

I don't trust brands like that.