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HOW DOES THE XBOX ONE S BEAT A PC?

Carlos1010
8 minutes ago, DXMember said:

yeah, maybe they're not running at 1080p but either way they'll be either upscaling or running low fidelity

True, but ti's implemented in a way we haven't seen and it works surprisingly well. Did you see the comparison in the painting?

If anyone asks you never saw me.

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2 hours ago, thekeemo said:

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1 hour ago, App4that said:

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The Xbox One S isn't the Xbox One Scorpio, it's the same hardware as the original Xbox one with 4k video output and HDR in a smaller form factor. 

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1 hour ago, App4that said:

You might want to check this out.

 

 

The Xbox One S doesn't have a GPU like this, you're thinking of the Scorpio.

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2 hours ago, Carlos1010 said:

Hi all,

As we all know the Xbox one S released for presale this week check it here http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19&sku=A9022102&dgc=BA&cid=302657&lid=5756798&acd=12309224740360116c99817963&ven3=178203472718995289

And it is selling or $399 for the 2tb version. My question is that you know that this console can run 4k at HDR and you have to build a $1000+ PC to have the same performance as this console thus, WHAT GPU DOES THIS THING HAVE? I mean like its so cheap for 4k gaming????? You can barley make a 1440p gaming PC with this price. I have no clue. Thanks in advanced!

It is not 4K gaming.

 

It is 1080P at 60 FPS gaming.

It is 4K video playback, such as Netflix or Amazon Video

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5 minutes ago, othertomperson said:

The Xbox One S doesn't have a GPU like this, you're thinking of the Scorpio.

We're talking about the upscaling specifically. Not the GPU.

 

Oh, and the S does. Why Sites have been screaming not to buy the Xbox One that's on sale. Microsoft snuk in a hardware change.

If anyone asks you never saw me.

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2 hours ago, Noire said:

The Xbox One S isn't the Xbox One Scorpio, it's the same hardware as the original Xbox one with 4k video output and HDR in a smaller form factor. 

I know 

It is also 6 tflops

aka 480

Thats that. If you need to get in touch chances are you can find someone that knows me that can get in touch.

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32 minutes ago, thekeemo said:

I know 

It is also 6 tflops

aka 480

I have not seen a single article implying the S will have the same GPU as the "Scorpio". 

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8 minutes ago, Noire said:

I have not seen a single article implying the S will have the same GPU as the "Scorpio". 

Neither have I but I read the Xbox one s will have 6 tflops

Thats that. If you need to get in touch chances are you can find someone that knows me that can get in touch.

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Is there a way to trade in my Xbox One for an upgrade? Somewhere official? I sure hope so.

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Just now, thekeemo said:

What does that have to do with what I am saying?

It's not the exact GPU found in Scorpio, but it's a new GPU. The Xbox One S is faster than a Xbox One.

If anyone asks you never saw me.

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1 hour ago, App4that said:

It's not the exact GPU found in Scorpio, but it's a new GPU. The Xbox One S is faster than a Xbox One.

The S has 6 tflops (or so I was led to believe)

The 480 has 6 tflops

So I assumed the S has a 480

Thats that. If you need to get in touch chances are you can find someone that knows me that can get in touch.

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9 hours ago, Syros119 said:

The games themselves are not being run in 4k. Its just the interface, even intel graphics can do that. 4k games are for xbox scorpio, which will sadly be outdated in a year or two.

No it is 1080 upscaled at 30FPS to 4k. Nothing is running native 4k

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If you need 2 Gtx 1080 for run a game close to 60 FPS at 4k maximun settings proof here:

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Go to Min 2:10

then how do you think the consoles could run 4k?

Ans: they don't. they just upcoverting the image. to 4k. and is in "Cinematic" 30FPS

All console use APU. they dont have GPU.

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29 minutes ago, thekeemo said:

The S has 6 tflops (or so I was led to believe)

The 480 has 6 tflops

So I assumed the S has a 480

Yes, same as the Neo. Here's a video emulating the Xbox One S and Neo including the process used to up sample.

 

 

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It doesn't play games at 4k, it only plays video at 4k. A feature that it really should have had from the start.

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Everyone keeps saying it doesn't play games at 4K, watch the videos. It upscales sure, but that upscaling is like nothing we've seen before. Let's hope this comes to PC too. A mid range card would be all you'd need. 

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8 hours ago, thekeemo said:

I know 

It is also 6 tflops

aka 480

Not quite.

 

Scorpio will likely use Vega. SOCs won't use overclocked parts. Polaris 10 needs to be overclocked to reach 6TFlops. Will more likely use an underclocked Vega chip.

 

PS4 Neo will probably use an underclocked Polaris 10 chip.

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3 hours ago, App4that said:

Yes, same as the Neo. Here's a video emulating the Xbox One S and Neo including the process used to up sample.

 

 

This video has nothing to do with the XB1S.

 

The XB1S is essentially the same as the original XB1 with some slight changes to clock speeds and such. It's slightly faster than the older system, but not as fast as the PS4 Neo will be.  

 

The transition to the XB1S from the XB1 is similar to the changes made to slim models of the 360 from the original. Smaller, cooler, slightly faster, and more reliable. 

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well shit

an xbox 1 probably has more power than my grandpas pc

 

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Well, the 360 does have a GPU that is stronger than a X1650 Pro... So yes, the XB1 is significantly better than your grandpa's PC.

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7 hours ago, Ze_Mako said:

This video has nothing to do with the XB1S.

 

The XB1S is essentially the same as the original XB1 with some slight changes to clock speeds and such. It's slightly faster than the older system, but not as fast as the PS4 Neo will be.  

 

The transition to the XB1S from the XB1 is similar to the changes made to slim models of the 360 from the original. Smaller, cooler, slightly faster, and more reliable. 

Nope, the Xbox One S has a new GPU, Microsoft has been careful to hide this in fear of losing sales on the original Xbox One they still need to sell.

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6 hours ago, App4that said:

Nope, the Xbox One S has a new GPU, Microsoft has been careful to hide this in fear of losing sales on the original Xbox One they still need to sell.

While you're correct that it's a "new" GPU the performance is not that much better. It's no where near Neo levels.

 

The upgrade path is still the same as the changes from the original 360 to the slim models. Internals are shrunken down and are slightly faster, but provide no real performance boost. 

 

You can keep living in your world where the XB1S is on the same level as the Neo, but in reality it isn't.

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