BadTunnel: a vulnerability that affect every windows since 95

[Energycore]

On 6/18/2016 at 9:22 AM, ThinkWithPortals said:

Paranoia mode engaged.

Awareness and paranoia are two very different things my friend

[Master Disaster]

On 18/06/2016 at 3:34 PM, Djole123 said:

Meanwhile at my PC, ten minutes after reading this:

 

22 hours ago, Coaxialgamer said:

Meanwhile,  on my pc :

 

You can never be too safe,  can you? 

Hate to break the bad news but both WFW3.11 and DOS 6 support NetBIOS via NDIS. 

[Djole123]

30 minutes ago, Master Disaster said:

 

Hate to break the bad news but both WFW3.11 and DOS 6 support NetBIOS via NDIS. 

Meanwhile at my desk, about 20 minutes after reading this:

[Master Disaster]

45 minutes ago, Djole123 said:

Meanwhile at my desk, about 20 minutes after reading this:

Haha, I'm currently running an El Capitan Hackintosh, I use Mac OS more than Windows tbh. 

[Coaxialgamer]

4 hours ago, Master Disaster said:

 

Hate to break the bad news but both WFW3.11 and DOS 6 support NetBIOS via NDIS. 

Well this can't be hacked.  Checkmate NSA/hackers! 

 

[ThinkWithPortals]

16 hours ago, Energycore said:

Awareness and paranoia are two very different things my friend

Oh, I know. I'm not criticising you for being paranoid, it's me that's paranoid

[suicidalfranco]

11 hours ago, Djole123 said:

Meanwhile at my desk, about 20 minutes after reading this:

the last good one

[Dabombinable]

On 19/06/2016 at 10:29 PM, Master Disaster said:

I thought the opposite but recent reading has proved me to be incorrect. While no software should have a need for NetBIOS anymore apparently a lot of networking hardware does still use the protocol which is why MS keep it active on modern operating systems. If they removed it then many networks would lose capabilities. 

 

I'm still unsure if it's running all the time or only when it's required, common sense would dictate the latter but this is Microsoft. 

The amount of unnecessary services that I've had to disable on my desktop and laptop (Windows 7 & 10 respectively)...... It's a bloody joke.  Though having to disable the Nvidia streaming service for the shield tablet I'll never own is annoying as well. 

[Djole123]

8 hours ago, Coaxialgamer said:

Well this can't be hacked.  Checkmate NSA/hackers! 

 

 

There we freakin' go. Everyone should use an abacus. It's safe and tested, and it's in use for milleniums! Although modern and fasters solutions do exist, the abacus can't be hacked. Brilliant!

[Misunderstood Wookie]

On 19/06/2016 at 10:29 PM, Master Disaster said:

I thought the opposite but recent reading has proved me to be incorrect. While no software should have a need for NetBIOS anymore apparently a lot of networking hardware does still use the protocol which is why MS keep it active on modern operating systems. If they removed it then many networks would lose capabilities. 

 

I'm still unsure if it's running all the time or only when it's required, common sense would dictate the latter but this is Microsoft. 

Well this is why I asked someone above if disabling the TCP NetBIOS helper is fine if I didn't network with any old hardware or OS's below win 7. 

 

Because even on Windows 10 this service starts automatically!  and one less service is one less service running right.

 

The answer: yep it's safe. 

[AlTech]

On ‎6‎/‎20‎/‎2016 at 8:52 PM, Coaxialgamer said:

Well this can't be hacked.  Checkmate NSA/hackers! 

 

Lol but who is using an abacus in 2016...........

[Sintezza]

Vulnerability according to the Netbios protocol is realy realy old news allready.

For the users that exaly use it for file and printer sharing in their network might want to install the patch.

But i dont even use that, and the first thing i allways do is disabling netbios over tcp entirely.

Because technically netbios is kinda old, and you dont realy need it anymore.