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1 minute ago, ShadyHost said:

 

Tell us your budget. Chances are high you could still get gaming on an Intel platform since you are considering a 8350 and a 960.

 

The G3258 and cheapest Z97 motherboard combo will cost you about $170 US and you can overclock to your liking, then pick up a 4690k or maybe even a 4670k in a while when you can save more money and sell/return that motherboard you already have. Intel isn't that much more expensive unless you go for a K chip right out of the gate

THat CPU is practically the worst investment possible, and what on earth would he need Z97 for? You can OC it on a B85 board as well...

stop giving him bad advice, that would run him more for less performance

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4 minutes ago, don_svetlio said:

The issues are as follows

2 cores, 2 threads meaning that when a game (GTA V, Witcher 3 and any other modern AAA title) WILL stutter. No way around it. Those games NEED 4 threads.

2 meh cores - locked and non-OC-able, performance is significantly lower than a FX 6300 or i3 4170 (both of which are similar in modern games)

Yeah I'm aware of the drawbacks of the Pentium chips, but as far as the upgrade path goes I'd much rather suffer on the slow train if I can just lower details to get by than get stuck on an sinking platform with no news of a new release any time soon. I just refuse to pay $400+ US for a 6700k at the moment. 

 

 

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Yeah I'm aware of the drawbacks of the Pentium chips, but as far as the upgrade path goes I'd much rather suffer on the slow train if I can just lower details to get by than get stuck on an sinking platform with no news of a new release any time soon. I just refuse to pay $400+ US for a 6700k at the moment. 

The OP has less than 400$ and I don't think he is going to be upgrading soon by the looks of it. Not to mention he already bought a board.

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4 minutes ago, ShadyHost said:

 

Tell us your budget. Chances are high you could still get gaming on an Intel platform since you are considering a 8350 and a 960.

 

The G3258 and cheapest Z97 motherboard combo will cost you about $170 US and you can overclock to your liking, then pick up a 4690k or maybe even a 4670k in a while when you can save more money and sell/return that motherboard you already have. Intel isn't that much more expensive unless you go for a K chip right out of the gate

He already got his parts, only needs a CPU, and his budget is £350

 

G3258 is not good for gaming. 2 cores only. Minimum of 4 cores. i3 would do okay-ish. 

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a 4670K costs  £189.99  from Ebuyer in UK


so u guys would recomend i buy a mobo for that processor and  i supposed i just get myself a 750Ti to hold me until i can afford my 970?

 

should i do that?

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I'd say get an I5 and motherboard now with that $350, use the integrated graphics and save up for a graphics card. And then get a Polaris or pascal. 

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2 minutes ago, severdnerv said:

a 4670K costs  £189.99  from Ebuyer in UK


so u guys would recomend i buy a mobo for that processor and  i supposed i just get myself a 750Ti to hold me until i can afford my 970?

 

should i do that?

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You could get a cheaper board if you plan on sticking with that CPU for a while

 

 

 

 

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This thread is devolving fast.

 

OP go with a 6300 since you've only got a 970 based motherboard an FX8 is only asking for trouble. 

Get a good cooler for it, the stock one is absolute shit.

As for GPU get a 970 or a 390 if you can, but if not go for a 380 4GB.

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3 minutes ago, severdnerv said:

a 4670K costs  £189.99  from Ebuyer in UK


so u guys would recomend i buy a mobo for that processor and  i supposed i just get myself a 750Ti to hold me until i can afford my 970?

 

should i do that?

I would get the i5 4460, it's only £145

 

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Total: £144.99
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1 minute ago, severdnerv said:

a 4670K costs  £189.99  from Ebuyer in UK


so u guys would recomend i buy a mobo for that processor and  i supposed i just get myself a 750Ti to hold me until i can afford my 970?

 

should i do that?

i5 4460 + H81 is better value

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3 minutes ago, ShadyHost said:

 

 

 

You could get a cheaper board if you plan on sticking with that CPU for a while

 

 

Why are you pushing a Z97 board? It's wasting money.....

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3 minutes ago, ApolloX75 said:

This thread is devolving fast.

 

OP go with a 6300 since you've only got a 970 based motherboard an FX8 is only asking for trouble. 

Get a good cooler for it, the stock one is absolute shit.

As for GPU get a 970 or a 390 if you can, but if not go for a 380 4GB.

klkl so 6300 and gtx 970.

ill do that then thanks Everyone for there input guys 

 

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Why are you pushing a Z97 board? It's wasting money.....

I literally said he could get a cheaper board if he planned on sticking with that cpu.....get off my ass

 

 

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klkl so 6300 and gtx 970.

ill do that then thanks Everyone for there input guys 

 

Don't. 8320 and OC it

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5 minutes ago, ApolloX75 said:

This thread is devolving fast.

 

OP go with a 6300 since you've only got a 970 based motherboard an FX8 is only asking for trouble. 

Get a good cooler for it, the stock one is absolute shit.

As for GPU get a 970 or a 390 if you can, but if not go for a 380 4GB.

klkl so 6300 and gtx 970.

ill do that then thanks Everyone for there input guys 

 

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6 minutes ago, ShadyHost said:

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You could get a cheaper board if you plan on sticking with that CPU for a while

 

 

what page did u get thoes prices from ... just curious?

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3 minutes ago, severdnerv said:

what page did u get thoes prices from ... just curious?

That's from amazon

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10 minutes ago, severdnerv said:

what page did u get thoes prices from ... just curious?

I just checked on Scan and the 6400 with cheapest Z170 and GTX 960 is £384. It's up to you if you want to stretch a little over £350. That's only a slight bit more for the latest socket and CPU architecture.

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Just now, Bhav said:

I just checked on Scan and the 6400 with cheapest Z170 and GTX 960 is £384. It's up to you if you want to stretch a little over £350.

6400 doesn't need a Z170 and 380 is better than a 960.

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11 minutes ago, don_svetlio said:

Don't. 8320 and OC it

Normally I'd agree with an 8320 but he's got a 970A DS3P board. It's rudimentary at best for overclocking, he'll be lucky to get a small oc out of a 6300.

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Just now, ApolloX75 said:

Normally I'd agree with an 8320 but he's got a 970A DS3P board. It's rudimentary at best for overclocking, he'll be lucky to get a small oc out of a 6300.

While True a stock 8320 is still 2 extra cores

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2 minutes ago, ApolloX75 said:

Normally I'd agree with an 8320 but he's got a 970A DS3P board. It's rudimentary at best for overclocking, he'll be lucky to get a small oc out of a 6300.

ive never been one for actualy doing much overclocking myself jsut ran everything at stock or its own turbo mode 

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33 minutes ago, severdnerv said:

i would only be gaming at 1080p 

Ive already purchased the AM3+ Board and My hyper FX 16 gb x2 8gb ram 1866 and case was just seeing what was the best amd combo to get 

 

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3 minutes ago, don_svetlio said:

While True a stock 8320 is still 2 extra cores

so would 8320 and my mobo   970A DS3P  even if i buy an aftermarket cooler and go for the gtx 970 > would that be descnt

 

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