Matrix Cards are Shit

[LittleCarrot]

I was gonna buy a ASUS Matrix 980Ti, when I realized there is no water blocks. If you can prove me wrong. That was be awesome, I would buy one this second.

[Octavialicious]

The title is entirely incorrect then, ASUS doesn't make the waterblocks... no reason to call it a shit card

[LittleCarrot]

Just now, Octavialicious said:

The title is entirely incorrect then, ASUS doesn't make the waterblocks... no reason to call it a shit card

There cooling is worse than their 980Ti Strix

[Curufinwe_wins]

Lol there are also no waterblocks available for the Lightning.

 

Big reason not to go that way I guess.

[Octavialicious]

2 minutes ago, LittleCarrot said:

There cooling is worse than their 980Ti Strix

Well duh, it was made for extreme overclocking (such as LN2)

 

don't expect an LN2 card to have the best stock cooling

[LittleCarrot]

Just now, Octavialicious said:

Well duh, it was made for extreme overclocking (such as LN2)

 

don't expect an LN2 card to have good stock cooling

Should it then have good water block support?

[LittleCarrot]

1 minute ago, Curufinwe_wins said:

Lol there are also no waterblocks available for the Lightning.

 

Big reason not to go that way I guess.

Isn't weird cards with good overclocking support don't have waterblocks?

[Octavialicious]

1 minute ago, LittleCarrot said:

Should it then have good water block support?

Again, not ASUS's problem/fault

[thatguyyouknow75]

Just now, LittleCarrot said:

Should it then have good water block support?

No..... 

[Samfisher]

3 minutes ago, LittleCarrot said:

There cooling is worse than their 980Ti Strix

A lot of things are worse than other things...

[RZeroX]

@Lays

[Enderman]

You're kidding me right?

Calling a card crap because it doesnt have waterblocks? You know that waterblocks are made by companies that are NOT asus right?

.............

how do you think the waterblock manufacturers are going to make a waterblock for the card if THEY DONT HAVE THE CARD?

[Commander_Z]

10 minutes ago, LittleCarrot said:

I was gonna buy a ASUS Matrix 980Ti, when I realized there is no water blocks. If you can prove me wrong. That was be awesome, I would buy one this second.

 

 

Just because a card doesnt have a waterblock, does not make it a terrible card.

You're point is invalid

[Centurius]

7 minutes ago, LittleCarrot said:

Isn't weird cards with good overclocking support don't have waterblocks?

Considering great overclockers need to deviate from the reference design, no.

[Curufinwe_wins]

14 minutes ago, LittleCarrot said:

Isn't weird cards with good overclocking support don't have waterblocks?

That and they took so long to release it that many of the people who were interested in buying an extreme 980ti would end up with a Kingpin instead (esp since it has a EKWB).

 

But who cares? GM200 is really invariant compared to well, any gpu ever, so much so that buying and watercooling two MSI 6G 980tis can get you top in the class results.

 

[LittleCarrot]

2 minutes ago, Curufinwe_wins said:

That and they took so long to release it that many of the people who were interested in buying an extreme 980ti would end up with a Kingpin instead (esp since it has a EKWB).

 

But who cares? GM200 is really invariant compared to well, any gpu ever, so much so that buying and watercooling two MSI 6G 980tis can get you top in the class results.

 

I was so close to trade my Strix card for the Matrix relized there is no water cooling support and said hell no.

[Praesi]

1. Stupid Title 2. Good  aircooled 980ti's Cards can get the same Results than watercooled Cards.

[LittleCarrot]

3 minutes ago, Praesi said:

1. Stupid Title 2. Good  aircooled 980ti's Cards can get the same Results than watercooled Cards.

Are cooling on itsn't good either

[Lays]

2 hours ago, LittleCarrot said:

There cooling is worse than their 980Ti Strix

Have you even read the guru3d review? It hits 63c under load on air. 

 

It's one of, if not the best cooled 980 ti on the market. 

 

You can always use a universal block, I use a universal block on mine and I have a 120mm fan pointed at the vram and vrm,  vrm and vram temps never exceed 50c and the core stays chilly around 28-33 under load. 

 

The 980 ti matrix is one of the BEST 980 ti on the market. 

[LittleCarrot]

12 minutes ago, Lays said:

Have you even read the guru3d review? It hits 63c under load on air. 

 

It's one of, if not the best cooled 980 ti on the market. 

 

You can always use a universal block, I use a universal block on mine and I have a 120mm fan pointed at the vram and vrm,  vrm and vram temps never exceed 50c and the core stays chilly around 28-33 under load. 

 

The 980 ti matrix is one of the BEST 980 ti on the market. 

Should I exchange my 980Ti for it?

[WynLore]

If you called it crap because the included cooler is crap, I may somewhat (just somewhat) agree with you (though benchmarks say otherwise). But if you called it crap because there's no waterblock for it... not Asus' fault you didn't do your research. I mean... there's the MSI Lightning that has a waterblock from Bitspower, the EVGA Kingpin that has a waterblock from EKWB (even slims it down to a one-slot card), and waterblocks galore for other 980 Ti's (well, dunno if Zotac's AMP! Extreme Edition has one, but still). You had options... you just didn't look hard enough.

[Lays]

1 hour ago, LittleCarrot said:

Should I exchange my 980Ti for it?

If you don't have to spend a bunch of money on top of your 980 ti,  then yeah totally. 

 

It will perform better, quieter and cooler than a strix.   Mine did 1520-1530 on the core and 8800 on the memory in benchmarks on air,  and 1500/8400 24/7 stable. 

 

On water I can do 1550-1575 in benchmarks on core and 9100 on memory with a updated memory OC bios from one of Asus extreme overclocking guys. 

 

Haven't bothered finding a new 24/7 stable but I imagine I can probably do 1525/8600 now. 

 

 

I'll be using dry ice on it soon,  it should do 1700 or so, maybe a tiny more or less.