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I'm sure you get asked this a lot but is skylake worth the extra, say, £100. The cheapest motherboard is £50 for a matx and the cheapest i5 is about £160, which is alright but I wanted an atx.There's also the problem with having to buy new RAM due to the upgrade to Ddr4 but I could use my current ram on a previous generating processor

Is it worth getting an i5 skylake and an matx with the extra cost of ram than a i5 from the previous gen and an Atx?

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nope. Skylake is 8% faster than Haswell

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It's worth it. You can overclock non-K Skylake CPUs. Can't do that with Haswell, Ivy Bridge, or Sandy Bridge, and 1st generation Intel Core CPUs are obsolete.



You need only get one of Super Micro's boards (the one Luke showcased at CES should be out soon and isn't very expensive). I believe that has a micro-ATX form factor too, and you're getting a lot more performance for your money than an equivalent Haswell setup.
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It's worth it. You can overclock non-K Skylake CPUs. Can't do that with Haswell, Ivy Bridge, or Sandy Bridge, and 1st generation Intel Core CPUs are obsolete.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrfTcXQlsbs

I don't really plan on overclocking so wouldn't be much of a factor

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Not in my opinion, I'm very happy on Haswell. I don't see much reason for me to upgrade in the near future and since I have a lot of DDR3 already I'm probably going to move to something enthusiast grade before I go to anything that runs on DDR4.

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USB 3.1, m.2 and 8% improvement in performance 
where I live it's like 60$ more for skylake which I think is worth it

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So from the large response of no I'm guessing it's not unless I plan to OC. That brings me to my next question, what combo of Haswell and motherboard should I get? Keeping it under £200 preferably

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I don't really plan on overclocking so wouldn't be much of a factor

Then I'd say it isn't, and you'd be better off with an i5 4460 and a B85/H81 micro-ATX board. Better value if you don't plan on overclocking, and you can put what you save towards a superior GPU.

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USB 3.1, m.2 and 8% improvement in performance
where I live it's like 60$ more for skylake which I think is worth it

 

Don't really see myself using those features anytime soon


Then I'd say it isn't, and you'd be better off with an i5 4460 and a B85/H81 micro-ATX board. Better value if you don't plan on overclocking, and you can put what you save towards a superior GPU.

 

Just got my 380x so just need to get a new cpu and I'm set

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So from the large response of no I'm guessing it's not unless I plan to OC. That brings me to my next question, what combo of Haswell and motherboard should I get? Keeping it under £200 preferably

I'm sure you get asked this a lot but is skylake worth the extra, say, £100. The cheapest motherboard is £50 for a matx and the cheapest i5 is about £160, which is alright but I wanted an atx.There's also the problem with having to buy new RAM due to the upgrade to Ddr4 but I could use my current ram on a previous generating processor

Is it worth getting an i5 skylake and an matx with the extra cost of ram than a i5 from the previous gen and an Atx?

It is not worth upgrading to skylake if u have to change ur ram, motherboard and cpu and I'd u where looking for a new mobo and cpu I'd go with a asus Maximus 7 gene and a 4460
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http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/525225-intel-skylake-cpu-flaw-is-making-systems-crash-under-heavy-load/ (no its broken...)

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I don't really plan on overclocking so wouldn't be much of a factor

 

 

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I did, and it's s bug that happens during AVX2 100% load on the latest prime95 versions. It has nothing to do with normal, commercial use..

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I did, and it's s bug that happens during AVX2 100% load on the latest prime95 versions. It has nothing to do with normal, commercial use..

Pfft that error can happen while gaming also it is said that Intel will probably call them all back... :P

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Pfft that error can happen while gaming also it is said that Intel will probably call them all back... :P

 

No, it's said only during heavy computational programms (prime95, later versions). And it will be fixed by microcode. 

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false:

Intel says that they have found a fix, hence the lack of need to do a recall, and will be working with OEM manufacture to apply the fix in their BIOS.
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EDIT: Removed irrelevant information. 

 

Back on topic: Worth is subjective. What might be worth it to some, may not be worth it to others. It also depends highly on your usage scenario. If just gaming, a cheap Haswell build will still suffice just fine. If you needed extra memory, Skylake supports up to 64GB, while Haswell is limited to 32GB (Haswell-E supports 128GB). If you needed the extra PCIE lanes, Skylake would also be a great alternative to Haswell.

 

If you do not need the extra memory, faster memory, or additional PCIE lanes, then Haswell will work perfectly for your needs.

My (incomplete) memory overclocking guide: 

 

Does memory speed impact gaming performance? Click here to find out!

On 1/2/2017 at 9:32 PM, MageTank said:

Sometimes, we all need a little inspiration.

 

 

 

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Guys please answer his question....

What mobo and CPU you guys recommend buying???

Coz I also want to ask the same question.....

If it is not broken, let's fix till it is. 

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Guys please answer his question....

What mobo and CPU you guys recommend buying???

Coz I also want to ask the same question.....

 

I've found the i5-4590 and the MSI Z97 PC mate (only because its cheaper and a full ATX board)

CPU: FX-6300 GPU: Sapphire R9 380X MOBO: Gigabyte 970A-DS3P RAM: Corsair Vengeance 8GB PSU: XFX XTR 550W CASE: Zalman Z11 Plus SSD: Samsung 840 Evo

17 years old, PC Enthusiast for 3. Be gentle with me, I'm only young.

 

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I've found the i5-4590 and the MSI Z97 PC mate (only because its cheaper and a full ATX board)

Oh...okay..,..

I got distracted by some of the replies here...

If it is not broken, let's fix till it is. 

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Guys please answer his question....

What mobo and CPU you guys recommend buying???

Coz I also want to ask the same question.....

Get a asus Maximus 7 gene and a 4590
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Get a asus Maximus 7 gene and a 4590

I was thinking about a motherboard upgrade...

I am currently using a Gigabyte GA-H87-D3H  motherboard.,

I am kind of stuck with choosing between maximus 7 hero or ranger.

Which one should I choose???

If it is not broken, let's fix till it is. 

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