i5 14600k vs ryzen 7 7800x3d

[EagleRL]

I am looking to buy a new PC ~£1300 and was wondering which of the 2 cpu above to get. I play lots of FPS games and RL but also I do large programming project both personal and professionally on this PC. Let me know which you would recommend or if I should get a different one altogether. 

[Blasty Blosty]

I would say the Intel.

 

AMD is better for gaming, but Intel is great for both gaming and productivity work.

[EagleRL]

7 minutes ago, Blasty Blosty said:

I would say the Intel.

 

AMD is better for gaming, but Intel is great for both gaming and productivity work.

Ok thank you is it worth stretching to the i7 or will the i5 do me fine?

[Blasty Blosty]

3 minutes ago, EagleRL said:

Ok thank you is it worth stretching to the i7 or will the i5 do me fine?

If your budget allows, sure. Just don't fall for the loop of "I'll get the better one because why not", before you know it you'll be stretching for an i9.

[WereCat]

6 minutes ago, EagleRL said:

Ok thank you is it worth stretching to the i7 or will the i5 do me fine?

AFAIK programming is not really heavy on multi-threading, correct me if I'm wrong.

[jaslion]

18 minutes ago, WereCat said:

AFAIK programming is not really heavy on multi-threading, correct me if I'm wrong.

Compiling is.

 

Also entirely depends on what they are writing really.

 

Its basically a massive "it depends"

 

Not like the 7800x3d is a slouch at this by any stretch of the imagination.

[EagleRL]

52 minutes ago, jaslion said:

Compiling is.

 

Also entirely depends on what they are writing really.

 

Its basically a massive "it depends"

 

Not like the 7800x3d is a slouch at this by any stretch of the imagination.

I most write c# applications in vb.net but I have made really time operating systems for personal projects

 

[EagleRL]

1 hour ago, Blasty Blosty said:

If your budget allows, sure. Just don't fall for the loop of "I'll get the better one because why not", before you know it you'll be stretching for an i9.

That's a good point, I wouldn't spend anymore than 1400 so it would just take away from gpu etc

 

[Blasty Blosty]

Just now, EagleRL said:

That's a good point, I wouldn't spend anymore than 1400 so it would just take away from gpu etc

 

Exactly, I think you're best just sticking with the i5, unless you want / need the extra cores of an i7

[EagleRL]

7 minutes ago, Blasty Blosty said:

Exactly, I think you're best just sticking with the i5, unless you want / need the extra cores of an i7

ok thank you, should I get a z790 or b760

[Blasty Blosty]

1 minute ago, EagleRL said:

ok thank you, should I get a z790 or b760

Z boards are only really for overclocking and more premium I/O

 

If you do not plan on overclocking, or do not need a lot of USB devices, then a solid B760 board will work great

[EagleRL]

5 minutes ago, Blasty Blosty said:

Z boards are only really for overclocking and more premium I/O

 

If you do not plan on overclocking, or do not need a lot of USB devices, then a solid B760 board will work great

ok thanks

[Blasty Blosty]

*B760 boards can overclock, I meant more along the lines of heavy / extreme overclocking

[EagleRL]

6 minutes ago, Blasty Blosty said:

*B760 boards can overclock, I meant more along the lines of heavy / extreme overclocking

I am not planning on running any overclocks tbh, can they have ddr5 or only ddr4?

 

[EagleRL]

8 minutes ago, Blasty Blosty said:

*B760 boards can overclock, I meant more along the lines of heavy / extreme overclocking

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/LPDyz6 can you take a look and let me know what you think, i already have storage, 1tb m.2 and 500gb ssd

[Blasty Blosty]

3 minutes ago, EagleRL said:

I am not planning on running any overclocks tbh, can they have ddr5 or only ddr4?

 

You can get either, the 14th gen CPUs offer support for both generations to help ease the transition

[Blasty Blosty]

1 minute ago, EagleRL said:

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/LPDyz6 can you take a look and let me know what you think, i already have storage, 1tb m.2 and 500gb ssd

Looks good to me!

 

For the RAM: Not sure if it is the same for the Non-RGB Vengeance, but when I got mine there was a kit made for Intel (XMP) and a kit made for AMD (EXPO), try and get the Intel one: CORSAIR VENGEANCE DDR5 RAM 32GB (2x16GB) 6000MHz CL30 Intel XMP iCUE Compatible Computer Memory - Black (CMK32GX5M2B6000C30) : Amazon.co.uk: Home & Kitchen

 

Just to ensure compatibility

[EagleRL]

5 minutes ago, Blasty Blosty said:

Looks good to me!

 

For the RAM: Not sure if it is the same for the Non-RGB Vengeance, but when I got mine there was a kit made for Intel (XMP) and a kit made for AMD (EXPO), try and get the Intel one: CORSAIR VENGEANCE DDR5 RAM 32GB (2x16GB) 6000MHz CL30 Intel XMP iCUE Compatible Computer Memory - Black (CMK32GX5M2B6000C30) : Amazon.co.uk: Home & Kitchen

 

Just to ensure compatibility

ok thank you, i have a bit more budget if there are any upgrades that are worth it, or if I just save the money 

[venomtail]

For gaming 7800X3D easy win, for "programming" we need to know more. For game dev and normal app and web development my 5800X3D is plenty fast. Can't imagine how heavy the coding and compiling actually has to be before core count start being very noticeably impactful. Maybe like AI stuff and large format data then Intel but again, we' need to know then if ecores aren't a deficit and mabye full on cores from something like a 7900X might be more useful.

[Blasty Blosty]

3 minutes ago, EagleRL said:

ok thank you, i have a bit more budget if there are any upgrades that are worth it, or if I just save the money 

Nah not much to change here, all good

[starsmine]

1 hour ago, jaslion said:

Compiling is.

 

Also entirely depends on what they are writing really.

 

Its basically a massive "it depends"

 

Not like the 7800x3d is a slouch at this by any stretch of the imagination.

and compiling is often more cache heavy then thread heavy. 

Anyways
105Min for intel i5
125Min for AMD x3d


But for my own comfort I would go AMD just because of wattage

Intel CPU at load pulls 100 more watts so even though its faster, in games, its perpetually putting that out, and in production

[EagleRL]

6 minutes ago, venomtail said:

For gaming 7800X3D easy win, for "programming" we need to know more. For game dev and normal app and web development my 5800X3D is plenty fast. Can't imagine how heavy the coding and compiling actually has to be before core count start being very noticeably impactful. Maybe like AI stuff and large format data then Intel.

I don't do any game dev, I do mostly large application development within vb.net in c#. I have started written large real time OS. I also do some other projects but no where near as intensive. I currently have a ryzen 5 2600 and it takes over 20 mins to compile some section

[Blasty Blosty]

5 minutes ago, EagleRL said:

ryzen 5 2600

Ahh my old CPU

 

What a beast that was at the time

[EagleRL]

6 minutes ago, Blasty Blosty said:

Ahh my old CPU

 

What a beast that was at the time

It has served me very well I think I have had it 6 years or so 

[Blasty Blosty]

1 minute ago, EagleRL said:

It has served me very well I think I have had it 6 years or so 

Same, recently upgraded to a 7600X