it's possible AMD dropped support for Coreboot in upcoming Zen CPUs

[zMeul]

source: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=AMD-Zen-Will-It-Coreboot
 

This year we should finally see the release of the highly anticipated AMD Zen processors that will hopefully better position their processors to compete with Intel. However, one of the unanswered questions about this next-gen platform is whether it will support Coreboot as an optional open-source firmware to replace the proprietary UEFI/BIOS.

Back in 2011 AMD announced they would support Coreboot on all future CPUs. AMD had been doing pretty good about supporting Coreboot on their processors and chipsets over the years, as frequently mentioned in my many Coreboot news posts.

While many recent generations of past AMD CPU/APUs have worked with Coreboot, it's not clear going forward. One of AMD's key partners in supporting Coreboot, Sage Electronic Engineering, went out of business last year.

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what is CoreBoot?
Coreboot, formerly known as LinuxBIOS, is a free software project aimed at replacing proprietary firmware (BIOS or UEFI) found in most computers with a lightweight firmware designed to perform only the minimum number of tasks necessary to load and run a modern OS

Coreboot project (licensed under the terms of the GNU GPL) began in 1999 in the Advanced Computing Laboratory at Los Alamos National Laboratory (LANL), with the goal of creating a BIOS that would start fast and handle errors intelligently
main contributors included LANL, SiS, AMD, Coresystems and Linux Networx, Inc, as well as motherboard vendors MSI, Gigabyte and Tyan, which offer coreboot alongside their standard BIOS or provide specifications of the hardware interfaces for some of their motherboards

 

devices preloaded with Coreboot (or derivatives) include x86-based ChromeBooks, Libreboot X200 and T400 (now rebranded Thinkpad X200 and T400), OLPC XO from the One Laptop per Child initiative, and ThinCan models DBE61, DBE62 and DBE63.

[Prysin]

so.... i dun see any issues with this.

 

there is no issues with BIOS or UEFI that is so aggrevating and problematic that using Coreboot as an alternative is even worth it.

[qwertywarrior]

PLEASE dont

 i really really want coreboot

[Trik'Stari]

so.... i dun see any issues with this.

 

there is no issues with BIOS or UEFI that is so aggrevating and problematic that using Coreboot as an alternative is even worth it.

Other than the NSA implanting godmode spyware in your BIOS when you update it from the manufacturers website.

[Zah]

Other than the NSA implanting godmode spyware in your BIOS when you update it from the manufacturers website.

[citation needed]

[Trik'Stari]

[citation needed]

http://resources.infosecinstitute.com/nsa-bios-backdoor-god-mode-malware-deitybounce/

http://chronicle.su/2014/08/17/snowden-unveils-nsa-god-mode-malware-that-lives-on-your-motherboard-and-can-not-be-traced/

 

This was on the forums not too long ago if I remember correctly. Only thing you can do about it is either never update your BIOS (assuming that it wasn't infected during manufacturing) or use something where you can see and alter the code, like CoreBoot

[Guest Generallee]

Other than the NSA implanting godmode spyware in your BIOS when you update it from the manufacturers website.

 

Hello fellow tinfoil enthusiast

 

 

[citation needed]

 

"i am not believing that my government would use such ways to spy on me"

[Prysin]

Other than the NSA implanting godmode spyware in your BIOS when you update it from the manufacturers website.

who cares, i'm outside their juristiction and in my country, we wont ever extradite anyone to the US. BECAUSE MY COUNTRY CONSIDERS THE US PRISON SYSTEMS LIVING CONDITIONS TO BE BELOW HUMANITARIAN STANDARDS.

[Doobeedoo]

Well, that's odd, specially for next gen CPU though. But not issue for me though, either way it may change later on.
As long as everything is good with instruction sets it will be fine.

[Zah]

"i am not believing that my government would use such ways to spy on me"

More like "I am of the opinion that if someone doesn't provide proof for things they aren't acting in a logical and scientific way."

[Trik'Stari]

Hello fellow tinfoil enthusiast

 

 

 

"i am not believing that my government would use such ways to spy on me"

who cares, i'm outside their juristiction and in my country, we wont ever extradite anyone to the US. BECAUSE MY COUNTRY CONSIDERS THE US PRISON SYSTEMS LIVING CONDITIONS TO BE BELOW HUMANITARIAN STANDARDS.

More like "I am of the opinion that if someone doesn't provide proof for things they aren't acting in a logical and scientific way."

Please see my previous post. This is a real thing, and you are NOT beyond their reach. No one is (except the ruling class)

[Guest Generallee]

More like "I am of the opinion that if someone doesn't provide proof for things they aren't acting in a logical and scientific way."

 

Keep waiting for proofs, this is not the 60's you aint gonna find a wire plugged into your landline

[Trik'Stari]

Keep waiting for proofs, this is not the 60's you aint gonna find a wire plugged into your landline

http://chronicle.su/2014/08/17/snowden-unveils-nsa-god-mode-malware-that-lives-on-your-motherboard-and-can-not-be-traced/

 

We already know that this exists. No tinfoil hats here. The Federal government gave some scientists half a million to measure and study duck genitalia, you really think they wouldn't spend billions on getting spyware into peoples BIOS?

 

(they also spent $200,000 to see if cocaine makes Japanese Quail engage in risky sexual behavior)

 

If that wasn't enough for you.

https://nsa.gov1.info/dni/nsa-ant-catalog/servers/index.html

[Prysin]

Please see my previous post. This is a real thing, and you are NOT beyond their reach. No one is (except the ruling class)

Everyone is, if they live outside of the US.

 

The beurocratic bullshit they gotta fight their way through to get to you in EU is mind boggling.

 

Now, if they want to arrest me for downlading furry midget porn and trolling kids in CS:GO and DOTA2. So be it.

[Prysin]

http://chronicle.su/2014/08/17/snowden-unveils-nsa-god-mode-malware-that-lives-on-your-motherboard-and-can-not-be-traced/

 

We already know that this exists. No tinfoil hats here. The Federal government gave some scientists half a million to measure and study duck genitalia, you really think they wouldn't spend billions on getting spyware into peoples BIOS?

 

(they also spent $200,000 to see if cocaine makes Japanese Quail engage in risky sexual behavior)

 

If that wasn't enough for you.

https://nsa.gov1.info/dni/nsa-ant-catalog/servers/index.html

they  CLAIM they gave the cocaine to the Japanese Quail. In reality, it was for personal use

[Daegun]

Yes, they might have dropped it. But they also might have not! Dun dun duuuuuun!

How is this news? It tells us absolutely nothing. 'Hey guys, so just to let you know, AMD hasn't clarified anything about this yet.'

[Trik'Stari]

Everyone is, if they live outside of the US.

 

The beurocratic bullshit they gotta fight their way through to get to you in EU is mind boggling.

 

Now, if they want to arrest me for downlading furry midget porn and trolling kids in CS:GO and DOTA2. So be it.

You actually believe they have to go through bureaucratic bullshit to get what they want? It's simple. Spy on the people in said bureaucracy, find blackmail worthy information, and suddenly you've got carte blanche to do whatever the fuck you want.

 

Also, they won't arrest you for it. They will file it away, and it will magically appear should you ever run for office on a ticket with values and statements that ever threaten their jobs.

[Guest]

downlading furry midget porn 

Wowowow keep that to yourself.

[Memories4K]

Other than the NSA implanting godmode spyware in your BIOS when you update it from the manufacturers website.

As if your hardware's not already been compromised.

[Trik'Stari]

As if your hardware's not already been compromised.

I did mention that possibility in another post. It likely is.

[Jahramika]

who cares, i'm outside their juristiction and in my country, we wont ever extradite anyone to the US. BECAUSE MY COUNTRY CONSIDERS THE US PRISON SYSTEMS LIVING CONDITIONS TO BE BELOW HUMANITARIAN STANDARDS.

LOL oh really funny my company has built 3 of them in the last 15 years and trust me they have it so got a good bit of people commit crimes right after they get out to get back in for the lazy easy life.

[Daegun]

who cares, i'm outside their juristiction and in my country, we wont ever extradite anyone to the US. BECAUSE MY COUNTRY CONSIDERS THE US PRISON SYSTEMS LIVING CONDITIONS TO BE BELOW HUMANITARIAN STANDARDS.

I'd love to know where you live, because the US has a lot of extradition treaties. 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_extradition_treaties

[Citadelen]

who cares, i'm outside their juristiction and in my country, we wont ever extradite anyone to the US. BECAUSE MY COUNTRY CONSIDERS THE US PRISON SYSTEMS LIVING CONDITIONS TO BE BELOW HUMANITARIAN STANDARDS.

What gets me is that the US has private prisons, that people don't always choose to get put in, so they have massive debt when they get out of prison.

 

Everyone is, if they live outside of the US.

 

The beurocratic bullshit they gotta fight their way through to get to you in EU is mind boggling.

 

Now, if they want to arrest me for downlading furry midget porn and trolling kids in CS:GO and DOTA2. So be it.

Yeah, I like the EU a lot, the fact that they dropped all charges on Snowden amazed me, giving the US the middle finger basically. I just hope the UK votes to stay in the EU referendum.  

[Prysin]

I'd love to know where you live, because the US has a lot of extradition treaties. 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_extradition_treaties

oh, they have treaties with my country, but as recent as 2010 i think it was our Supreme court refused to extradite someone because they considered the prison system and its living conditions inhumane.

[Prysin]

You actually believe they have to go through bureaucratic bullshit to get what they want? It's simple. Spy on the people in said bureaucracy, find blackmail worthy information, and suddenly you've got carte blanche to do whatever the fuck you want.

 

Also, they won't arrest you for it. They will file it away, and it will magically appear should you ever run for office on a ticket with values and statements that ever threaten their jobs.

if you actually believe that your gov have that power, then you live in the US.

You see, EU is too much "hippies" and "commies" to play the same tune.

 

US tried to spy on germany, got busted, got into serious political shit for it.

US tried to spy on france, got busted, got into serious political shit for it.

 

end result?

 

EU is a lot colder towards the US now. Not only due to the espionage, but due to multiple cases of inhumane actions both domestic and abroad. Such as the hospital bombing in Syria or whatever.