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I don't understand the obsession with 'good' PSUs here

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as a person said on this thread, It's not an elitist thing but it's a safety thing, And it's a damn about time People gave more of a toss about their PSU, rather than such a critical component (THE most critical component) being constantly overlooked because i dunno Maybe it doesn't give you an extra 10fps in battlefield...Maybe it just isn't as hipster as having a top end i7. /rant.

 

 

and apart from fire hazard and such, Remember that you are still spending a decent chunk of money on a PC, why the heck would you just want to go and skimp as hard as you can on the most important component? Kind of like doing up a nice house you just bought, then just using old newspaper for the doors because it doesn't rain very often in said area or the crime rate is low.

My personal experience with PSUs deemed horrible here has been fine. I've had 3 builds over the course of 11 years that have had brands such as Raidmax and the Corsair CX series. The worst that happened was one popping after 3 years, far from burning my house down or destroying my other components. Is it just me or is this kind of an elitist thing?

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No clue, I have a cx600m and I'm perfectly happy with it.

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Its more, you dont fuck around with things that have the potential to burn your house down thing

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My personal experience with PSUs deemed horrible here has been fine. I've had 3 builds over the course of 11 years that have had brands such as Raidmax and the Corsair CX series. The worst that happened was one popping after 3 years, far from burning my house down or destroying my other components. Is it just me or is this kind of an elitist thing?

no..your just stupildy lucky nothing happened

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My personal experience with PSUs deemed horrible here has been fine. I've had 3 builds over the course of 11 years that have had brands such as Raidmax and the Corsair CX series. The worst that happened was one popping after 3 years, far from burning my house down or destroying my other components. Is it just me or is this kind of an elitist thing?

 

If we were talking about the remote possibility of maybe damaging some components and costing money, it might be different, but we are talking about the possibility of very real and potentially lethal danger here. Bad power supplies can and do explode or start electrical fires without even taxing them beyond their rated load, as has been tested numerous time by reviewers with power supply testing machines. "They usually don't" isn't a good justification to recommend them to people. 

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Why risk it if it's not hard to get a better PSU?

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Well then you're probably lucky nothing else went wrong. A client of my bought some el cheapo psu, psu burn out and took everything along with it. Do we need $100+ psu? No. all we need are good psu with trusted brands. CX are decent if you don't plan to OC, or for a very simple computer build, like for granny.

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Old Corsair TX I think and I do mean old: it's 8 years old now. Had a couple of false starts but after trial and error I think it was my compressed air that was messing with it haven't had an issue since. Still powering my rig including a 290x just fine.

 

Though I do understand why people insist on good power supplies: the price different often isn't that dramatic if you don't buy something overkill and I don't think it's a bad idea to basically include "peace of mind" in your budget so to speak.

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Just because the PSUs have worked for you doesn't make them safe. The CX series is bad for high end builds, which is what most build threads here are, which is why we don't recommend them, among other PSUs. 

 

Also, the PSU is the part providing power to the rest of the PC. Getting a good one is essential when the component has the potential to take out thousands worth of equipment, as well as start fires. It's not elitist, it's good sense. 

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Power supplies can explode and catch fire. Just because yours didn't doesn't mean others of the same model don't. Also, if the power supply is shitty, you push it past what it's capable of(which might be below its advertisement), and the protective circuitry doesn't work, your components are done.

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The ones people recommend here come with a higher price tag.

It really isn't that much unless you want to take your chance with Coolmax and Raidmax PSUs and what can you expect you get what you pay for PSU is the most important part in your PC best to get good quality so you can reassure your system is safe

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Good psu's aren't that expensive. And they give you a nice amount of efficiency, and they can deliver what it says.

 

Cheap psu's can kill your complete pc, they can catch fire, they don't deliver what they say and are inefficient AF...

 

There are really NO reasons to cheap out on it.

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My personal experience with PSUs deemed horrible here has been fine. I've had 3 builds over the course of 11 years that have had brands such as Raidmax and the Corsair CX series. The worst that happened was one popping after 3 years, far from burning my house down or destroying my other components. Is it just me or is this kind of an elitist thing?

LTT has an elitist mentality in general, but I'm not going to get into this. In general most power supplies are fine, its mostly the brands "nobody's heard of" or some oddly cheap PSU's that I recommend avoiding.

 

And of course before posting this I read some of the replies and wow, read the OP guys...

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My personal experience with PSUs deemed horrible here has been fine. I've had 3 builds over the course of 11 years that have had brands such as Raidmax and the Corsair CX series. The worst that happened was one popping after 3 years, far from burning my house down or destroying my other components. Is it just me or is this kind of an elitist thing?

PSU such as the CX850M actually have good components, however people have problems with it for the sheer fact that you can a better PSU for less. Also, if you get a bad PSU you risk issues with your computers components, such as a reduced lifespan, coil whine (PSU and/or GPU) and then there is the issue with cheap PSU failing-blowing up and only damaging the motherboard at best, frying all of your computers components at worst. And 3 years old is actually getting close to the upper life span of cheap/low quality PSU.

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The ones people recommend here come with a higher price tag.

Really? Antec High Current Gamer 620W is 62$ - it's literally 3 times better than the CX while being only 20$ more expensive. please.

https://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-power-supply-cx600m -CX @ 42$

https://pcpartpicker.com/part/antec-power-supply-hcg620m -Antec @ 62$

https://pcpartpicker.com/part/seasonic-power-supply-m12ii520bronze - M12II @ 65$

https://pcpartpicker.com/part/xfx-power-supply-pro850wp1850snlb9 - XFX core @ 60$

 

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As an electrical engineer I will never cheap out on my power supply if it has faulty rails questionable power ratings or know consumer complaints I won't touch it as I've seen electrical fires and fried pc's though I never go with the most expensive psu's I used trusted brands and good rated models, evga 650W gs is my current supply

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As an electrical engineer I will never cheap out on my power supply if it has faulty rails questionable power ratings or know consumer complaints I won't touch it as I've seen electrical fires and fried pc's though I never go with the most expensive psu's I used trusted brands and good rated models, evga 650W gs is my current supply

This.

If you feel like you're fine with something, okay. But don't recommend an iffy PSU to first-time builders. If they make a simple mistake and short it out it might blow up in their face - quite literally. Good PSUs have SCP and will simply shut down.

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I want to call upon @Aniallation and @STRMfrmXMN

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