Why is amd so good with dx12

[TheConverter]

hey man id have had a r9 295x2 over any card when it was released, i probs still  would have one.

 

I had a R9 290 until the 980Ti came out

 

Whatever AMD/NVIDIA does the 390 will still be better then the 970, and the 980Ti will still be better then the Fury X, that's just how these things work.

[thekeemo]

There's a lot less overhead 

[Monarch]

check out somewhere on google somewhere dx12 ashes of the singularity results

amd had 80% performance improvement from dx12 over dx11

where nvidia had only 8%

 

That's because Nvidia's DX11 is already good. AMD's DX11 is horrible, and so DX12 looks good compared to their DX11.

[TheConverter]

you mean only the fanboys? because theyre the only ones who believe what amd say, amd also said hbm would make a huge difference and what has happened? it hasnt.

 

HBM V1: No, Because only 1 freaking GPU in whole world has it

HBM V2: Yes. Because all mainstream and high-end cards will have it next year.

 

Even then, we might see advantages only in PC exclusive games which would have huge high-res textures.

[AlwaysFSX]

you mean only the fanboys? because theyre the only ones who believe what amd say, amd also said hbm would make a huge difference and what has happened? it hasnt.

Surprisingly I find a time where I agree with you. But it isn't just the AMD fanboys, it's also the people getting confused by the massive misinformation spread by that "test."

[arronleeds]

I had a R9 290 until the 980Ti came out

 

Whatever AMD/NVIDIA does the 390 will still be better then the 970, and the 980Ti will still be better then the Fury X, that's just how these things work.

i wish id have waited for the 390 tbh, id have had it over this 970.

[arronleeds]

Surprisingly I find a time where I agree with you. But it isn't just the AMD fanboys, it's also the people getting confused by the massive misinformation spread by that "test."

when have we had a disagreement , yeah i suppose, i looked at the hype and tbh i dont really see what the big deal is anyway, the game looks so boring that i wouldnt play it if i got paid to, whats the performance increase of amd on one game got to do with the rest of the games that will be released, people need to stop being brain washed, especially if they think every single game is going to get an increase like that, its impossible.

[Mr.Dingle]

Im getting a R9 390 ... and im really interested to see how this goes ... ( now this thing usually places higher than 290Xs , so DX12 could only help , rite ??? ) 

 

Tho i guess Nvidia hasnt really done anything about their DX12 drivers ... 

[kieranswhite]

Is OP referring to this article ?

 

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2015/08/directx-12-tested-an-early-win-for-amd-and-disappointment-for-nvidia/

[Monkey Dust]

Mantle will have given AMD a head start on dx12 utilization, but I'd expect Nvida to close the gap by the time we start seeing dx12 games. I'm not saying Nvida will catch up completely, but the 980ti should be able to pull away from the 290x at least.

[harrynowl]

My guess is that either AMDs DX12 driver is currently better or GCN just plays better with the DX12 pipeline than it did on DX11.

[Godlygamer23]

My guess is that either AMDs DX12 driver is currently better or GCN just plays better with the DX12 pipeline than it did on DX11.

It's GCN at this point. Ars Technica explains it in their article where they do their testing.

[harrynowl]

It's GCN at this point. Ars Technica explains it in their article where they do their testing.

Ah right, I hadn't actually looked into it in detail past seeing some results posted on the forum. Thanks for confirming that.

[NumLock21]

Where did you get this info from?

http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/432063-first-directx-12-game-benchmarked-update-2-more-benchmarks/

[maizenblue]

My guess is AMD cards tend to have more raw horsepower. Its software and drivers that have given Nvidia the edge in dx11. DX12 allows AMD cards to reach their full potential.

[gilang01]

One game. An alpha one at that. Don't make conclusions without multiple data samples

[maizenblue]

One game. An alpha one at that. Don't make conclusions without multiple data samples

I think some synthetic benchmarks showed a HUGE advantage for AMD as well. Cant remember if it was 3dmark, but a 290x was beating a TitanX.

[Whorax]

im sick of the amd fanboys like "m8 a 290x is as good as a 980ti in this game" im like yeah nobody gives a shit about that game, its one crappy game that 90% of people wont care to play.

I'm sick of fanboys in general because they aren't smart consumers.

[Kinda Bottlenecked]

http://www.overclock.net/t/1569897/various-ashes-of-the-singularity-dx12-benchmarks/400#post_24321843

 

This might explain why^ Though I'm not drawing my conclusions yet. When gcn cards no longer have a large cpu overhead, they do seem to have more breathing room.

[ConnorDahne]

****Opinion Alert******
My opinion is this;
We've really only seen one dx12 game benchmarked, sso right now there's not enough information to make an informed decision.
Some games run on select cards better than others. Maybe AMD has figured something out that Nvidia hasn't, but maybe Ashes of singularity is better optimized for AMD cards at the moment. I believe we're still too far out to start flame waring

[Lethal Seraph]

Yeah I think those games were better suited with AMD cards. And with the current driver release trends, Nvidia has been terrible at it.

Regardless of which card turns up the best, the rival will catch up eventually and it still majorly depends if the game developer wants to embrace dx12.

[gilang01]

I think some synthetic benchmarks showed a HUGE advantage for AMD as well. Cant remember if it was 3dmark, but a 290x was beating a TitanX.

draw calls? 

[Praesi]

Its one Game and means absolutly nothing at this point. I remember AMD´s FuryX Benchmarks...and we all know how they look now in Reality.