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http://arstechnica.com/business/2015/08/reddit-decides-quarantining-isnt-enough-bans-racist-subreddits/
https://www.reddit.com/r/GoldTesting/comments/3fxs3q/list_of_quarantined_subreddits/
https://www.reddit.com/r/undelete/comments/3fx89o/quarantined_subreddits/

 

In July, newly appointed Reddit CEO Steve Huffman tried striking a balance between maintaining the community site's free-speech aspirations and toning down "offensive" content by "reclassifying" its most controversial "subreddit" communities. Certain subreddits that didn't necessarily break the site's content policy, particularly ones that revolved around racism, would be placed behind a consent and e-mail verification gate, removed from public search results, and disconnected from the site's ad sales.

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The prior use of "reclassifying" subreddits has now been officially described as "quarantining," and it effectively works the same way that Huffman described the cordoning-off of offensive subreddits in July. When asked by a user whether such e-mail verification was being used by Reddit to "create a database of users who read content you deem 'questionable,'" Huffman replied that the decision was meant solely to "add friction to the signup process, which we hope will cause people to think twice before opting in."

(As a weird aside, Huffman also took the opportunity to confirm that the company's internal styleguide had been updated as well, meaning he and the rest of the staff would now capitalize the R in the company's name. Cofounder Alexis Ohanian confirmed that the logo's lowercase R would persist.)

Visitors to today's banned subreddits didn't take long to flock to competing Reddit-like platform Voat, and one of those cloned communities has gone so far as to add a Confederate flag design to users' mouse pointers—but rest assured, fancy subreddit moderators, that doesn't mean Reddit has banned the use of CSS tags to enable custom mouse pointers.

 

 

The cliff notes are more racist and other unacceptable subreddits deleted and other quarantined so you have to login and ask to see them.

im glad so see loli's and white supremicists kicked out. however why chimpire is still allowed beats me....

also im afraid of voat becoming the new worst of reddit...

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personally i think they shouldn't have kicked them out

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DDDDDDDon't care. Reddit is Digg 2015

is digg dead because i never received the post mortem?

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personally i think they shouldn't have kicked them out

Keeping them in a controlled environment like the subreddits where they can express their feelings without bothering other people on random sites like FB or YT would have been better .

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Keeping them in a controlled environment like the subreddits where they can express their feelings without bothering other people on random sites like FB or YT would have been better .

 

Right and rehabilitating criminals is a good idea, but would you want to donate a room on your home to house a convicted sociopath? Then why it is reddit's responsibility to have to manage the unmanageable and host racist lunacy on their servers, out of their pocket?

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Keeping them in a controlled environment like the subreddits where they can express their feelings without bothering other people on random sites like FB or YT would have been better .

you do realize they moved to voat right...

also i should point the level of reddit/voat racism on some threads would be illegal to host in most of europe and australia for unreasonable content and promotion of hate.

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They need to ban all the racist subreddits. I am against free speech.

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They need to ban all the racist subreddits. I am against free speech.

By that logic, you don't even have the right to say that.

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I think it is fine. If they want to be like that, they can go over to 4chan.

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By that logic, you don't even have the right to say that.

  I reject the notion that all speech belongs everywhere. I do not believe people should have the right to use oppressive speech.

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They need to ban all the racist subreddits. I am against free speech.

 

Let me re-word that for you. I am all for free speech but they should not allow abusive(racist, offensive etc) content to be easily accessible to those who it will affect.

 

If you have a Netflix account, look up a movie called "We are Legion". It's basically a documentary about Anonymous fighting for free speech. It's not as boring as it sounds by the way.

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Let me re-word that for you. I am all for free speech but they should not allow abusive(racist, offensive etc) content to be easily accessible to those who it will affect.

 

I don't want it to exist at all. We must stamp out all oppression wherever it exists.

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Offensive speech doesn't make it oppresive. Me calling you a "cunt", for example, doesn't oppress you but it only offends you. More importantly, you don't deal with these issues via censorship but rather you use free speech to prove these people wrong.

 

People that visit subs like that are most likley to arrive at that point without any rational reason. I don't think that we're going to change their minds by arguing with them.

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I don't want it to exist at all. We must stamp out all oppression wherever it exists.

Saying "I don't like x race" isn't oppressive.

 

It's an opinion.

 

That's like saying "I don't like the color pink" and getting shot for it.

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I don't want it to exist at all. We must stamp out all oppression wherever it exists.

Today I Learned free speech = oppression... Please tell me you're trolling, no one could possibly make that big of a jump in logic with a straight face... Using that "logic", you're oppressing yourself.

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Free speech does not mean one can say anything or express his opinion at any places at any time he wants without taking responsibility of it. 

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Saying "I don't like x race" isn't oppressive.

 

It's an opinion.

 

That's like saying "I don't like the color pink" and getting shot for it.

Yes, it's an opinion, a racist opinion and if racism is not permitted (which is the case in many countries and places in the internet), you can't complain about getting banned or facing some kind of penalty.

Your last sentence is a strawman argument that has nothing to do with the matter.

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Free speech does not mean one can say anything or express his opinion at any places at any time he wants without taking responsibility of it. 

That's really stupid.

 

You just said people can be punished for having an opinion.

 

Do you understand the implications of that?

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You cared enough to post.

 

Not always true. There are a lot of intelligent people who are, apparently, racist or sexist.

I don't consider them intelligent in that case, no matter what they do.

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Yes, it's an opinion, a racist opinion and if racism is not permitted (which is the case in many countries and places in the internet), you can't complain about getting banned or facing some kind of penality.

Your last sentence is a strawman argument that has nothing to do with the matter.

In America, where reddit is hosted, it is perfectly legal to be racist. It's only illegal to act upon your beliefs in an illegal manner.

 

It doesn't matter if those are the rules on reddit, if the rules inhibit free speech. The argument isn't if racism is bad (which it is), but it's about if censorship is OK.

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That's really stupid.

 

You just said people can be punished for having an opinion.

 

Do you understand the implications of that?

You can be punished for expressing an opinion. An utterance is a type of action (a 'speech act').

And if an action hurts the rights of others (e.g. the right of not being of not being discriminated based on their race), you can be punishhed for that.

How in earth is that special or exceptional?

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That's really stupid.

 

You just said people can be punished for having an opinion.

 

Do you understand the implications of that?

Good luck with shouting "I have a bomb." at an airport, or detailing a plan "I'm going to assassinate Obama" on your Facebook page.

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In America, where reddit is hosted, it is perfectly legal to be racist. It's only illegal to act upon your beliefs in an illegal manner.

 

It doesn't matter if those are the rules on reddit, if the rules inhibit free speech. The argument isn't if racism is bad (which it is), but it's about if censorship is OK.

What are you talking about? The USA signed the ICERD.

Also, if I host a website, I can make my own CoC and ban people based on that, it doesn't matter where it is hosted.

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You can be punished for expressing an opinion. An utterance is a type of action (a 'speech act').

And if an action hurts the rights of others (e.g. the right of not being of not being discriminated based on their race), you can be punishhed for that.

How in earth is that special or exceptional?

You can not be punished for having or expressing an opinion. How is that so hard to understand?

You may say or think whatever you want. That's literally the entire basis of the first Amendment.

 

There are only two exceptions, mentioned below.

 

Good luck with shouting "I have a bomb." at an airport, or detailing a plan "I'm going to assassinate Obama" on your Facebook page.

There are only two exceptions to free speech.

Libel, and what you just straw manned. Yelling something like "Allahu ackbar" in an aiport.

 

I don't know if you noticed, but those things aren't opinions either.

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