i5 vs FX 8 Pricing.

[kipper]

Here in the UK an FX 8 core is cheaper than a low end haswell i5 and locked board by quite a few quid now, so at least in the UK, and if you are British, i will not be backing up the LOCKED i5.

 

AMD 8

http://www.scan.co.uk/products/amd-fx-8320-black-edition-vishera-8-core-am3plus-clock-35ghz-turbo-40ghz-8mb-l3-cache-125w-cpu-retai

http://www.scan.co.uk/products/gigabyte-ga-970a-ud3p-amd-970-sam3-am3plus-ddr3-pcie-20-(x16)-2-way-crossfirex-atx

 

intel locked

http://www.scan.co.uk/products/intel-core-i5-4440-lga-1150-haswell-quad-core-31ghz-base-33ghz-turbo-1100mhz-gpu-84w-cpu-retail

http://www.scan.co.uk/products/asus-h97m-e-intel-h97-s1150-ddr3-pcie-30-(x16)-d-sub-dvi-d-hdmi-micro-atx

 

 

[Majestic]

Yes it's true if you misrepresent it like you do. H81 boards suffice and you need aftermarket coolers on those FX8 series.

 

utter shitpost. 

[kipper]

May the fanboy above rage.

[Kinda Bottlenecked]

Alright alright lets not throw hate at each other first, but to OP. What the point you're trying to convey? 

[kipper]

Yes it's true if you misrepresent it like you do. H81 boards suffice and you need aftermarket coolers on those FX8 series.

 

utter shitpost. 

Do you even math?

 

http://www.scan.co.uk/products/gigabyte-ga-h81m-s2h-s1150-ddr3-d-sub-dvi-d-micro-atx-motherboard

 

Still costs more.

 

And you will throw in the cooler argument LOL.

[ZetZet]

May the fanboy above rage.

not a fanboy. am3+ motherboards are legit 50-60% more expensive. and you need a cooler for it. and it's slower once you buy all of those things.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£142.50 @ CCL Computers) 

Motherboard: ASRock H81M-HDS Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  (£36.36 @ Amazon UK) 

Total: £178.86

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-06-16 14:16 BST+0100

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor  (£112.32 @ Aria PC) 

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3P ATX AM3+ Motherboard  (£62.95 @ Amazon UK) 

Total: £175.27

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-06-16 14:16 BST+0100

 

exactly the same price. and the i5 performs much better.

 

Well i find the content creation benefit a bonus, an OC'd FX 8 would be fine for the majority of titles, and cost less.

 

InB4 power bills over time

it still will be slower, content creation only rendering does the fx8 win. in everything else like autocad, photoshop, lightroom it gets smacked.

[kipper]

not a fanboy. am3+ motherboards are legit 50-60% more expensive. and you need a cooler for it. and it's slower once you buy all of those things.

Well i find the content creation benefit a bonus, an OC'd FX 8 would be fine for the majority of titles, and cost less.

 

InB4 power bills over time

[manikyath]

i'd like to mention that if you dont use more than 4 cores, the i5 will most likely be faster.

[arronleeds]

the fact of the matter is the amd fx 8350 is said to bottleneck a 290x, so whats gonna happen when someone tries to use a fury x on the 8350.... they gonna upgrade to a 9590? which uses too much wattage and needs a good cooler.

[minibois]

*sigh*

 

Are we really going this way again?

[Majestic]

Do you even math?

 

I did, you didn't.

 

Cooler argument is legit.

 

/thread due to raging shitpost.

[SkilledRebuilds]

Well i find the content creation benefit a bonus, an OC'd FX 8 would be fine for the majority of titles, and cost less.

It doesn't "Destroy" the Intel 'simiarly priced' counterparts enough to warrant buying one for a few dollars more (yes just a FEW dollars most of the time)..., but it does get close to rival'ing the better tiers for a lower cost but worth it..? hmm, if pegging 100% CPU is all your doing then its fine with multithreading and worth it in some usage scenarios, if your doing that that your good,.., yet it does get destroyed in non-multithreaded apps so that's something to be VERY aware of.

[ShadowCaptain]

No get an i5

[kipper]

Well in this day and age a shit low end motherboard is better than a much better AMD motherboard.

 

Onboard audio is superior on the AMD board.

It looks a lot better.

 

Oh it's because it has an FX8, sorry won't ever mention it again.

[kipper]

It doesn't "Destroy" the Intel 'simiarly priced' counterparts enough to warrant buying one..., but it does get close to rival'ing the better tiers for a lower cost, if pegging 100% CPU is all your doing then its fine with multithreading, yet gets destroyed in non-multithreaded apps so that's something to be VERY aware of.

And i said it did that where?

[Majestic]

Onboard audio is superior on the AMD board.

 

yeah that VIA^® VT2021 codec masterrace amirite.

[SkilledRebuilds]

And i said it did that where?

I never once said in my post you did say that.. I was making my own point... and quoted you, so you'd see my post.

 

Point being, if you ARE doing 100% CPU usage based application usage, then they are fine price>performance beasts, if cooling does not make you go past the initial cost vs the Intel counterparts, then they are brilliant content creator CPU's and you will see gains over all i3's and most if not all i5's.

 

But if this is a multitasking machine thats NOT SINGLE USAGE driven (not just one app running 24/7 for content creation - which I know you didn't mention as the case) then the i5 all round is the better performing option over the FX due to its single threaded nature and how general non-content creation apps are most likely to respond to that IPC gain.

 

100% CPU usage = FX can be great

Lower than that for also some general use - it will perform worse, but its up the the user if they notice it.

If they game on.. Intel hands down, games respond better at the moment with them and until Zen arrives I would not recommend it to anyone.

[arronleeds]

Well in this day and age a shit low end motherboard is better than a much better AMD motherboard.

 

Onboard audio is superior on the AMD board.

It looks a lot better.

 

Oh it's because it has an FX8, sorry won't ever mention it again.

who even uses onboard audio with a good headset anyway? i certainly dont, it sounds like crap.

[kipper]

who even uses onboard audio with a good headset anyway? i certainly dont, it sounds like crap.

This is where the argument becomes amazingly hilarious.

 

So a person would buy the cheapest of cheap shit for their PC and then buy a sound card that is better than their onboard with something from AKG for a headset?

 

LOL

[SkywardKkalox]

May the fanboy above rage.

And you aren't doing the same thing by adding more fuel to the fire?

[79 Potatoes]

I did, you didn't.

 

Cooler argument is legit.

 

/thread due to raging shitpost.

Also look at the market, where companies also try to save money while offering performance (so they don't get criticized). What's the i series/FX ratio? At least in my area there are literally 0 FX based desktop prebuilts.

[kipper]

And you aren't doing the same thing by adding more fuel to the fire?

Would be better if i only owned an AMD system, i find overclocking a much better feature than a dull and boring setup like the locked i5, maybe me being an enthusiast does not help.

[SkilledRebuilds]

Onboard audio in the past few years... SHITS on the previous years before that...

Headphone amps being onboard and of better quality certainly help most people now, I wouldn't consider it shit, unless you specifically did not experience motherboard audio 8 years or 10+ years ago.

[ImBleu]

It looks a lot better.

 

 

I like your subjective approach to the arguement, shows a very compelling point.

[kipper]

Onboard audio in the past few years... SHITS on the previous years before that...

Headphone amps being onboard and of better quality certainly help most people now, I wouldn't consider it shit, unless you specifically did not experience motherboard audio 8 years or 10+ years ago.

EVGA Z68 SLi with a Realtek 889 chip, it's considered one of the upper tier sound chips, it's decent i will say that for it, just a bit flat when gaming.