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not really non techie stuff. but my former it teacher did let us programm stuff on paper for the last 2 years without letting us on the computer only once. i mean, letting the students "scetch" their code on paper is not wrong, but just saying you are wrong do it right without giving us the chance to check whats wrong or letting us understand how the code works and letting us test whats wrong is just nonsense. what do you think about it?

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7 hours ago, arvark said:

You are just stupid now... It's like saying 2x =/= x+x

for me the difference betwwen seeing it overpriced or seeing it underpowered is the difference between beeing a fanboy or a user

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11 hours ago, Pascal... said:

When you need to tell some one who has the same age as you (14) to click on the line that says "Password" to be able to write in the Password. #Somepeoplearesof****ingretardedsometimes

most of the time you can actuate tab to switch from the username to the password field.

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11 hours ago, arvark said:

You are just stupid now... It's like saying 2x =/= x+x

To me at least, overpriced means that a product is priced higher than it's worth. Underpowered means that it's less powerful than what it's price should warrant, that doesn't mean other features (keyboard, thinness, I/O, etc.) might make it worth buying.

 

Basically overpriced sorta means a product isn't worth buying, underpowered means that it's not as powerful as it should be, but it's not necessarily a bad product.

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27 minutes ago, DocSwag said:

To me at least, overpriced means that a product is priced higher than it's worth. Underpowered means that it's less powerful than what it's price should warrant, that doesn't mean other features (keyboard, thinness, I/O, etc.) might make it worth buying.

 

Basically overpriced sorta means a product isn't worth buying, underpowered means that it's not as powerful as it should be, but it's not necessarily a bad product.

to me:
overpriced: too much $ for too shit of a product (like shitty spec, shitty build, like paying $200 CAD for some MX red ripoffs logitech ..)

underpowered: not enough compute power for too much $ 

 

i say macs are overpriced because $1500 isn't worth for a dual core i5, a 1080p display, and subpar peripherals included. 

planned obsolescence. 

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39 minutes ago, DocSwag said:

To me at least, overpriced means that a product is priced higher than it's worth. Underpowered means that it's less powerful than what it's price should warrant, that doesn't mean other features (keyboard, thinness, I/O, etc.) might make it worth buying.

 

Basically overpriced sorta means a product isn't worth buying, underpowered means that it's not as powerful as it should be, but it's not necessarily a bad product.

Makes sense

10 minutes ago, themctipers said:

to me:
overpriced: too much $ for too shit of a product (like shitty spec, shitty build, like paying $200 CAD for some MX red ripoffs logitech ..)

underpowered: not enough compute power for too much $ 

 

i say macs are overpriced because $1500 isn't worth for a dual core i5, a 1080p display, and subpar peripherals included. 

planned obsolescence. 

not enough compute power for too much $ -> too much $ for the bad compute power

                                                                       too much $ for a bad product

 

Your and DocSwag's argument makes more sense to me because the other person was talking about it being overpriced for the specs, not including anything else you could consider. So I see your guys' point.

 

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On 6/6/2017 at 1:08 PM, Bleedingyamato said:

A couple days ago my brother literally said that a 2GB graphics card is 2x the performance of a 1GB.  That a card with twice the graphics memory of another is twice as good.  

 

2 and 1 being what he used as an example.  In his mind the same applies to 8GB 4GB and or any two numbers with one being twice the other.  

 

I tried to tell him he was 100% wrong but he wouldn't believe me.

 

 

Tbh I don't know what all contributes to GPU performance but if there's one thing I've learned it's that VRAM is not the sole determine factor.

 

 

I think that was part of my problem.  I knew my brother was wrong but not how to explain *why* he is wrong.  

Ok maybe let me help you on that. what determines the power of a graphics card is most often the GPU ( as in the actual GPU chip die on the graphics card itself) essentially, you can think of a Graphics Card as a secondary computer that is purpose build to handle floating point calculations and transformation matrices and other heavily parallelised tasks, it has it's own "CPU" (actually the GPU itself) and RAM (VRAM in this case).

 

But how can we use an analogy to illustrate this point? Well consider this. if you have a system with a Core 2 Duo E4700 with 8GB of DDR2 vs a system with an i7-7700K with only 4GB of DDR4 all other things being equal. Well surely in scenarios where we use less than 4GB of RAM the i7 will completely destroy the core 2 duo. Same concept. What VRAM size does affect is the resolution and detail setting that you can effectively use the card for before it starts to take a penalty to performance. In essence, the VRAM is there so that relevant information is quickly addressed and accessed by the GPU itself. much like RAM having excess does nothing for performance, but having insufficient will tank performance.

 

In essence, what happens when VRAM limit is exceeded is that the leftover information has to be cached in system RAM instead. Now system RAM will be slower because A-it is clocked slower that VRAM and B- that information has to travel a long way from System memory through all the various motherboard bus lanes and PCI-e lanes before reaching the GPU itself to be processed. 

 

 

If you're interested, check out this video by gamers nexus, it should give you a better understanding on comparing GPU performance.

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YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT TRIGGERES ME?

THIS IS?

 

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Me: Sure, just give me a few million dollars and I WILL GIVE YOU USB. 

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At my school:

Teacher: *Talking about Storage devices and Storage software*

Me: *Wanting to know more about Raid Configurations* Hey, can you explain what the different Raid Configurations do?

Teacher: What is a Raid?

Me: *Thinking BRUUUH PLEASE You are supposed to be the teacher*

Another one:

Teacher: *Showing how to setup an IIS*

Teacher: Now do it yourself

Me: *Finishing in about 2 Minuts bc i have done it too many times*

Teacher: Hey, why are you not doing anything

Me: Bc, i'm done?

Teacher: I don't believe you.

Me: *Shows Teacher*

Teacher: Do it again, i don't believe you!

Me: *Does it again bc fuck life*

Teacher: You can't be that fast to do it

Me: I have done this so many times... I'm used to it

Teacher: Idc, i'm writing to your contact person saying your cheating. (apprenticeship)

 

 

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1 hour ago, MathiasVN said:

At my school:

Teacher: *Talking about Storage devices and Storage software*

Me: *Wanting to know more about Raid Configurations* Hey, can you explain what the different Raid Configurations do?

Teacher: What is a Raid?

Me: *Thinking BRUUUH PLEASE You are supposed to be the teacher*

Another one:

Teacher: *Showing how to setup an IIS*

Teacher: Now do it yourself

Me: *Finishing in about 2 Minuts bc i have done it too many times*

Teacher: Hey, why are you not doing anything

Me: Bc, i'm done?

Teacher: I don't believe you.

Me: *Shows Teacher*

Teacher: Do it again, i don't believe you!

Me: *Does it again bc fuck life*

Teacher: You can't be that fast to do it

Me: I have done this so many times... I'm used to it

Teacher: Idc, i'm writing to your contact person saying your cheating. (apprenticeship)

 

 

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the last one is just retarded, had basically the same experience when picking highschools. at one that i visited we were shown their shitty IT lab and were told to set up the internet conection. all the info like IP adress and subnet mask were on the whiteboard and on a paper we got. took me like 10 seconds to do and they were like "I DONT BELIVE YOU DID THIS SO FAST SO YOU MUST BE CHEATING!!!" yes its definatly not because i manage my own home network myself and every time something IT breaks at home i have to fix it(though restarting the router solved almost everything lol)

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7 hours ago, Bananasplit_00 said:

the last one is just retarded, had basically the same experience when picking highschools. at one that i visited we were shown their shitty IT lab and were told to set up the internet conection. all the info like IP adress and subnet mask were on the whiteboard and on a paper we got. took me like 10 seconds to do and they were like "I DONT BELIVE YOU DID THIS SO FAST SO YOU MUST BE CHEATING!!!" yes its definatly not because i manage my own home network myself and every time something IT breaks at home i have to fix it(though restarting the router solved almost everything lol)

It's interesting because in some aspects, I am an IT person at my workplace even though I work in Quality. The only time I can't help is when it goes beyond my account privileges, but otherwise, I know how the networking and software works. I normally fix my own problems rather than call down IT. 

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9 hours ago, DeezNoNos said:

YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT TRIGGERES ME?

THIS IS?

 

random person: Heeey, MAN, can you give me a USB.  

Me: Sure, just give me a few million dollars and I WILL GIVE YOU USB. 

usb is like an interface/technology you can't GIVE it

 

you can give a usb flash drive for example or a usb cable

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11 minutes ago, deXxterlab97 said:

usb is like an interface/technology you can't GIVE it

 

you can give a usb flash drive for example or a usb cable

We're normal people, USB = USB flash drive. 

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138 is a good number.

 

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22 minutes ago, Godlygamer23 said:

It's interesting because in some aspects, I am an IT person at my workplace even though I work in Quality. The only time I can't help is when it goes beyond my account privileges, but otherwise, I know how the networking and software works. I normally fix my own problems rather than call down IT. 

Lol yes. Though i am a fool at networking, but like i ahve this computer which i am sure is begging a TIM reappilcation and cleaning. I cant because it anit my centriuno windows vista laptop/ 

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apparently this means that all i want is chromeOS, and nothing else;

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apple discord stupidity :P 

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138 is a good number.

 

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Jesus I can't believe some people ... was in the classified section of a Canadian forum, saw a post for a Strix RX 470.

 

Somehow this guy thinks his 470 is worth $350 (Canadian pesos) because he found an ebay auction where people (over)bid that same card to $425 CAD.

 

W T F !?!??!

 

For $350 CAD I can buy a brand new 8GB RX 580, WHY, JUST WHHYYYYYY would I pay that much for a USED RX 470?????

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20 minutes ago, wkdpaul said:

Jesus I can't believe some people ... was in the classified section of a Canadian forum, saw a post for a Strix RX 470.

 

Somehow this guy thinks his 470 is worth $350 (Canadian pesos) because he found an ebay auction where people (over)bid that same card to $425 CAD.

 

W T F !?!??!

 

For $350 CAD I can buy a brand new 8GB RX 580, WHY, JUST WHHYYYYYY would I pay that much for a USED RX 470?????

Actually with all those mining stuff going on I would say that is a fair price

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2 hours ago, themctipers said:

We're normal people, USB = USB flash drive. 

eh saying

"Can you copy this porn to a usb for me" sounds weird, I always have to put usb drive for example

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50 minutes ago, wkdpaul said:

Jesus I can't believe some people ... was in the classified section of a Canadian forum, saw a post for a Strix RX 470.

 

Somehow this guy thinks his 470 is worth $350 (Canadian pesos) because he found an ebay auction where people (over)bid that same card to $425 CAD.

 

W T F !?!??!

 

For $350 CAD I can buy a brand new 8GB RX 580, WHY, JUST WHHYYYYYY would I pay that much for a USED RX 470?????

peopel from us buy it because cheap

 

 

also, nobody in canada mines and thats why you can buy a new RX 580.

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138 is a good number.

 

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1 hour ago, wkdpaul said:

Jesus I can't believe some people ... was in the classified section of a Canadian forum, saw a post for a Strix RX 470.

 

Somehow this guy thinks his 470 is worth $350 (Canadian pesos) because he found an ebay auction where people (over)bid that same card to $425 CAD.

 

W T F !?!??!

 

For $350 CAD I can buy a brand new 8GB RX 580, WHY, JUST WHHYYYYYY would I pay that much for a USED RX 470?????

 

Because when he bought it he probably paid 400 Canadian roebels for it so it should still be almost the same right? Right?!

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I hooked up two monitors to a bad school PC at my high school and at least three kids thought i was a wizard

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8 minutes ago, NovaMan01 said:

I hooked up two monitors to a bad school PC at my high school and at least three kids thought i was a wizard

Fucking gandalf that you are. 

Or Harry Potter since you are in highschool. 

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1 minute ago, NLD1st said:

Fucking gandalf that you are. 

Or Harry Potter since you are in highschool. 

truuuuueee. Their faces were the absolute best. I started talking about the interior of the pc and they looked at me like i was speaking a different language.

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1 hour ago, wkdpaul said:

Jesus I can't believe some people ... was in the classified section of a Canadian forum, saw a post for a Strix RX 470.

 

Somehow this guy thinks his 470 is worth $350 (Canadian pesos) because he found an ebay auction where people (over)bid that same card to $425 CAD.

 

W T F !?!??!

 

For $350 CAD I can buy a brand new 8GB RX 580, WHY, JUST WHHYYYYYY would I pay that much for a USED RX 470?????

Because idiots

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