Pentium G3258 or AMD FX 6300... Runs away...

[Dabombinable]

FX-6350 is just an overclocked 6300 isn't it?

Yep, $20 *more* for something that isn't worth $20 of time.

*Edit*

[Dabombinable]

That doesn't mean you should opt for the worse choice, just because you don't need more NOW. And this is a heavily multithreaded title, so the best-case scenario for AMD.

 

Worst case scenario, it's a little different;

http://pclab.pl/zdjecia/artykuly/chaostheory/2014/11/codaw/charts/codaw_cpu_a2.png

Wait, the FX 9590 down that low? *mind blown*

[miagisan]

Fx6300. Much better value than the pentium.

[Majestic]

Wait, the FX 9590 down that low? *mind blown*

 

AMD Drivers were shit for that game, nvidia runs a little better; http://pclab.pl/zdjecia/artykuly/chaostheory/2014/11/codaw/charts/codaw_cpu_n.png

Still only dual-threaded though. So the 220W behemoth gets beaten by a 54W dualcore. 

 

I did say it was worst case

[JustCallMeVlad]

Because it's double the price of the AMD and it's not unlocked.

I3 doesn't need to be unlocked. It already beats the 8350

[Scarymonkeys]

Why buy now. For all we know GTA V will have better multi-threaded or single-threaded performance. Wait until the game comes out.

[Majestic]

Why buy now. For all we know GTA V will have better multi-threaded or single-threaded performance. Wait until the game comes out.

 

Because Intel has both. 

[duriel]

g3258 + overclock it for her, if at any point in time she/you feels it's not enough just bump it to a midgrade i5.

 

gta5/sims doesn't need more than two cores and if anything doesn't the sims play poorly with low single threaded performance?

[Scarymonkeys]

Because Intel has both.

But what if it needs more cores?

[Majestic]

But what if it needs more cores?

 

I said both, didn't I? If it requires more than 4 threads, only a small portion of the market can play it. That would be very stupid from rockstar, and the last thing rockstar can be accused of, is stupidity.

[MrTiC]

I3 with an H97 board, if more cores are needed sell I3 get an I5-4460 ( verry impressive cpu for under 200 euro)

[othertomperson]

I'd go for the FX. The single threaded performance isn't as good, but I've seen videos of the G3258 stuttering horrendously. You could go up to a (still dual core) i3, but they are all more expensive than the 6300, so I'd still be tempted to go for that.

[Majestic]

I'd go for the FX. The single threaded performance isn't as good, but I've seen videos of the G3258 stuttering horrendously. You could go up to a (still dual core) i3, but they are all more expensive than the 6300, so I'd still be tempted to go for that.

 

6300 and a board that is worth the money isn't less expensive than an i3 + decent board. Plus the stock cooler is terrible and thus an aftermarket cooler is mandatory, Much more boards are made for 1150, so you have ample choice. AM3+ you can select between maybe a handful. 

[typographie]

Going by scan.co.uk prices, an i3-4160 is only £10 more than the FX-6300, and it's without a doubt the better way to go.

[Benjiman46]

I3 with an H97 board, if more cores are needed sell I3 get an I5-4460 ( verry impressive cpu for under 200 euro)

 

 

Better option? save monehs and get an i3 (or get an H81 mb with an i3 if your actual plan was B85/H97)

 

Also for the "dual core isn't enough" crap.

Lets imagine that someone launches a CPU with 5 cores which each core performs as a Pentium IV. Is it going to be better than an actual G3220? NOPE. Not even in MT performance, so the same can happen with future CPUs

 

Okay, I think I'm decided on an i3 4160 for best of both worlds, so what is the main difference between an H81 mobo and a H97? I've not done much research, I only researched the shit out of the Z97 that is in my build, but as we don't need to overclock, I know a Z series isn't needed. 

 

Cheers!

[Dabombinable]

Okay, I think I'm decided on an i3 4160 for best of both worlds, so what is the main difference between an H81 mobo and a H97? I've not done much research, I only researched the shit out of the Z97 that is in my build, but as we don't need to overclock, I know a Z series isn't needed. 

 

Cheers!

Pretty much the only difference between the 2 is features, and the fact that some H81 boards need a bios update to work with newer Haswell CPUs while H97 boards don't.

[Dabombinable]

*If it's an old batch

Hence the term 'some H81 boards'

[MrTiC]

Pretty much the only difference between the 2 is features, and the fact that some H81 boards need a bios update to work with newer Haswell CPUs while H97 boards don't.

This, i burned myself once on a newer cpu and older board ... never again!

[typographie]

Okay, I think I'm decided on an i3 4160 for best of both worlds, so what is the main difference between an H81 mobo and a H97? I've not done much research, I only researched the shit out of the Z97 that is in my build, but as we don't need to overclock, I know a Z series isn't needed. 

 

Cheers!

 

Intel's specs for both: H81 H97

 

Basically H97 has more USB ports and SATA ports. That's probably the most practically important difference, anyway. Which might actually be a huge deal if you intend to use several disks or USB devices.

[arnavvr]

You should also consider the X4 860K. I have a 4.2 Ghz A10-7700K and it beats @tmcclelland455 Pentium G3258, we have the same GPU BTW.

[flibberdipper]

You should also consider the X4 860K. I have a 4.2 Ghz A10-7700K and it beats @tmcclelland455 Pentium G3258, we have the same GPU BTW.

Yours has a slightly higher core clock, but yeah. You do edge me out. Even though you have twice as many cores.

[D3MON]

They're not similarly priced. Why this comparisson.

because that stops people from comparing the fx83xx with the 4690k?...

[Majestic]

because that stops people from comparing the fx83xx with the 4690k?...

 

The price difference between the 83xx and the 4690K isn't as big as between the G3258 and the 6300. A better comparison would be the 8350 vs. i3-4160. Because that is also ~1.5x less the price. And yes, I would deem that a stupid comparison. Nice strawman though, typical yet again of this community.

[D3MON]

The price difference between the 83xx and the 4690K isn't as big as between the G3258 and the 6300. A better comparison would be the 8350 vs. i3-4160. Because that is also ~1.5x less the price. And yes, I would deem that a stupid comparison. Nice strawman though, typical yet again of this community.

in the uk (and most of europe) a fx83xx is typically £106 a 4690k is £190 (£185 currently on my fav e-tailor)

185/106=double the performance of a g3258 for 262% more money

g3258=£51, fx6300=£76

76/51=amd is 49% more expensive. (and give you 75% of the performance of an fx8 for 72% of the price, go figure)

you're right the difference isnt the same...

 

[i_build_nanosuits]

in the uk (and most of europe) a fx83xx is typically £106 a 4690k is £190 (£185 currently on my fav e-tailor)

185/106=double the performance of a g3258 for 262% more money

g3258=£51, fx6300=£76

76/51=amd is 49% more expensive. (and give you 75% of the performance of an fx8 for 72% of the price, go figure)

you're right the difference isnt the same...

twisting the numbers...what if you factor in a proper motherboard for the FX-6300 AND a proper CPU cooling solution for it?! Wouldnt this be as expensive or even more expensive than a core i3-4150 and a cheap H series motherboard? or an i5-4440?