"Rumor says Apple invented USB Type-C"

[spwath]

GAHHH why does it keep having me follow this topic???
Im not pressing follow button!

[connorpiper]

How are they rare?

It is literally an Svideo cable, no different. Besides, http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR3.TRC2.A0.H0.XADB+cabl.TRS0&_nkw=ADB+cable&ghostText=&_sacat=0

 

Also, i have had no problems with ADB.

 

Typing this on my daily drive, a ADB apple adjustable keyboard, conected with ADB to USB adapter

 

I had an Apple Keyboard II and Apple II computer, and for whatever reason my mouse and keyboard were always a hassle to get working. (Random disconnects, and issues with amount of keys pressed) 

I had purchased a ADB to USB adapter also, and that worked most of the time. Then I realized that they Apple Keyboard II sucks. 

[patrickjp93]

Yea, because things are only official once they get shown at CES, right? 

 

Yes, that's how the electronics industry works. If it's not at a convention, it doesn't exist. That's why VIA doesn't exist.

[Misanthrope]

This seems like the complete opposite of what Apple does which is make minor changes and aggressively pursue patents. 

[TheSLSAMG]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thunderbolt_(interface)

Where I get all my information. Also, here

http://download.intel.com/pressroom/pdf/photonics/Intel_SiliconPhotonics50gLink_WhitePaper.pdf?iid=pr_smrelease_vPro_materials2

 

http://appleinsider.com/articles/11/05/20/thunderbolt_trademark_rights_will_be_transferred_from_apple_to_intel.html

 

http://appleinsider.com/articles/11/02/24/intel_details_thunderbolt_as_exclusive_to_apple_until_2012.html

 

http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/24/video-intels-light-peak-running-an-hd-display-while-transferri/

I don't know what Sony had to do, it seems like not much at all with the Thunderbolt we know today. 

It would seem this way. However, aside from interface and interface technologies, AFAIK it still serves the same purpose. That Mac still used Light Peak though, as opposed to the current-style mDP Thunderbolt connector. I'd wonder when they started publicly testing Thunderbolt over mDP.

 

 

Prototype:

 

 

Actual model:

 

 

 

 

 

They had 3 Displays, a GPU, and a Disk drive. Plus enough power for everything running over LightPeak. 

 

This definitely wasn't released though, was it?

 

What role did Sony serve in the partnership, and why were they pretty much booted at the end?

[kuddlesworth9419]

No one invented it. It's a standard that is shared with everyone. Therefore everyone invented it. That is how we should look at it otherwise Apple will sue everyone and take the USB standard as their own and we will be left with jack sh*t. Now I hope people will stop making up crap all the time because it will ruin this industry even more then it has done it itself already/ 

[Victorious Secret]

It would seem this way. However, aside from interface and interface technologies, AFAIK it still serves the same purpose.

 

This definitely wasn't released though, was it?

 

What role did Sony serve in the partnership, and why were they pretty much booted at the end?

 

Light Peak was solely optics, AFAIK. Thunderbolt started out that way, went to copper, but the spec still can sustain optical connections if they wanted to switch over to it. 

They figured that at the speeds they wanted, even at TB3s listed spec, copper would actually work well at a far lower cost so they went that direction. I'm sure once we get far enough down the line and need more, they'll go back to the optics and by that time the costs will be much lower. 

[Hans Christian | Teri]

Its not the first time. Thunderbolt was a Intel push but guess who assisted? Apple. Apple even had trademarks. Apple rolled it out across the board. Apple has been pushing (and successfully I might add) to get people to get on the wagon. 

 

But people need to act like Apple is satan, especially around here. 

 

That was my point with the capital "surprise".

[connorpiper]

It would seem this way. However, aside from interface and interface technologies, AFAIK it still serves the same purpose. That Mac still used Light Peak though, as opposed to the current-style mDP Thunderbolt connector. I'd wonder when they started publicly testing Thunderbolt over mDP.

 

This definitely wasn't released though, was it?

 

What role did Sony serve in the partnership, and why were they pretty much booted at the end?

 

They were the OEM manufacturer (They were going to make the first LighPeak devices, plus some other Dev stuff behind the curtain), but they were booted because LightPeak was very expensive, which is when Apple stepped in. 

 

It was released. 

 

The Sony VAIO Z series (2012 Edition) was sold for 1 year. It was the thinnest Quad-Core laptop, and had a better battery life than the MacBook pro.

Also, it had a 1080p display with 92% sRGB. It was the laptop pictured in black. (Also, I think it may have been the first laptop with an eGPU) 

 

Costed From $2,300-$6,000. Had every new technology (Such as RAID 0 PCIe SSDs). But was too expensive for its own good. 

[Memphaestus]

Don't you guys know? Apple doesn't invent things, they just modify other people's inventions slightly so that they are more friendly and appealing to the masses. ;-)

[LAwLz]

I call bullshit that Apple invented it and just handed it over to the USB-IF who just won't say anything about it.

That has, as far as I know, never ever happened with any of the dozen of connectors Apple has invented or been involved with.

 

Apple probably contributed to the type C specs, but like with all other USB releases it has been a collaboration of many other companies as well.

[The Benjamins]

LOL NO, usb 3.1 type c was alreayd shown off at ces and leaked in 2014

you mean "LOL NO, USB type c was alreayd shown off at ces and leaked in 2014 XD"

 

Type C is not USB 3.1 only

[AlexGoesHigh]

invented? no. that they were heavily involved, yes, the were second into contributing the biggest amount of engineers into the project, only intel provided more man power

[Ertman]

I like how everyone is getting on Apple's case about this, when it was some guy that claims someone else told him.

Hey, if they do come out and say it, then all the criticsm will be valid, but until then....

[patrickjp93]

No, clearly Martha Stewart invented this, just like she invented Micro USB and strong-armed the phone makers into using it as the universal charging and data cord.

[kpreg]

"standard bodies"

 

condescending anyone?

[MRL]

While i dont exactly like Apple, but I don't mind saying they are the one who initiate the whole thing. It does make sense when you take a look at the latest macbook, they are serious about it. I dont like the macbook, especially the one port but one thing Apple excel at is making one thing standard. Keep pushing it like this, it can be the standard. One thing that i really hoped for is that as mobile devices (phones and tablets) is changing to usb type c, the iPhone will use it to and we finally can have more accessories lineup, but probably won't happen that soon since lightning port is still young.

[That Norwegian Guy]

Makes a ton of sense, because Apple have been responsible for several 'failed' but objectively superior connector types to their competitors, such as FireWire and Lightning, and they also contributed heavily or even the majority to Thunderbolt.

 

Them changing their strategy now makes more sense than sticking to the same strategy as before.

 

"Doing the same thing multiple times and expecting different results is the definition of retardation".

[dalekphalm]

Contributing large amounts does not equal "inventing". If they came up with the whole damn thing, then sure they can claim invention.

 

HOWEVER, Apple doesn't claim a damn thing here. It's some analyst's opinion piece who's decided this "rumour" means that Apple "invented" USB C. Personally, I'm skeptical. I have no doubt that Apple contributed heavily to its development though - perhaps even as the largest single contributor.

[szomeret]

they joined the usb 3.1 committee relatively late in the process. Unless the committee reworked the entire design at the end of the process (they didn't), there is little way Apple "invented" the standard. They did have a lot of people contributing, the second most behind Intel, toward the end so they were probably quite useful in finishing the standard.

[dalekphalm]

they joined the usb 3.1 committee relatively late in the process. Unless the committee reworked the entire design at the end of the process (they didn't), there is little way Apple "invented" the standard. They did have a lot of people contributing, the second most behind Intel, toward the end so they were probably quite useful in finishing the standard.

 

To be clear, USB Type C and USB 3.1 are different standards. USB 3.1 will simply be using the USB Type C connector. They could in fact drop a USB 3 or USB 2.0 Type C connector no problem if they wanted.

 

However, I still agree with your general opinion.

[szomeret]

To be clear, USB Type C and USB 3.1 are different standards. USB 3.1 will simply be using the USB Type C connector. They could in fact drop a USB 3 or USB 2.0 Type C connector no problem if they wanted.

 

However, I still agree with your general opinion.

Yes, but the standard-C connector was still designed by that same committee. Apple joined after the announcement of the new connector, presumably because they saw the writing on the wall with the European legislation that would mandate USB power on mobile devices going forward.

[jaggysnake57]

LOL NO, usb 3.1 type c was alreayd shown off at ces and leaked in 2014

and apple didnt exsit before then?

 

Apple took the credit for Thunderbolt when really the first people working on the project were Sony and Intel. Apple just joined in later, around the time when LightPeak was being scrapped. 

 

just because they joined later on dosnt mean they couldn't invent it.....maybe they reworked the design

 

as far as this is concerned  John Gruber or daring fireball is a massive apple fan boy and runs an apple blog so in exactly the most neutral source......id say they played a big part but i doubt they invented it.

[Foxxer]

The comments are real !

[connorpiper]

and apple didnt exsit before then?

 

 

just because they joined later on dosnt mean they couldn't invent it.....maybe they reworked the design

 

as far as this is concerned  John Gruber or daring fireball is a massive apple fan boy and runs an apple blog so in exactly the most neutral source......id say they played a big part but i doubt they invented it.

 

They did rework it.

But they were far from coming up with the idea and design.