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Intel To Launch 10nm Cannonlake in 2017.

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Intel's Genral Manager of the Middle East and North Africa regions has stated that the company expects to introduce the first 10nm chips in 2017. Two years later than the original company roadmap.

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We have been consistently pursuing Moore’s Law and this has been the core of our innovation for the last 40 years. The 10nm chips are expected to be launched early 2017.
Said Taha Khalifa, general manager for Intel in the Middle East and North Africa region.
 

The first 10nm processors will be based on Intel's Cannonlake microarchitecture. Which is a die shrink of Skylake but with better graphics and improved interconnect capabilities.

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I'm not sure what or how I feel about this. Other than.. "Hm."

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I think they have that technology already. 

They are squeezing money from everything they can before next manufacturing process.

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Does that mean AMD may have 10nm chips before intel? Rumour has it they'll have them by 2016

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Does that mean AMD may have 10nm chips before intel? Rumour has it they'll have them by 2016

 

That would be great tbh , added competition on the cpu front is always a good thing.

 

I remember when i recommended amd cpus for builds back in the Phenom days.

 

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Not too shocking, as the fab gets smaller and smaller we are going to see more delays and more bad batches.

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Does that mean AMD may have 10nm chips before intel? Rumour has it they'll have them by 2016

 

God I hope so.

 

I mean, I know shrinks will come with performance gains, but I hope AMD has actual high-performance cores in the makes for this day and age, lol.

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I think they have that technology already.

They are squeezing money from everything they can before next manufacturing process.

No they don't. They're building a new fab plant in Israel, and construction just started. Not to mention they'd like ASML to get extreme ultra violet tech ready if possible because the only other path adds a lot of time to the manufacturing process and a lot of cost to each transistor(will be passed down to consumers). This other technique is multi-level patterning.

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Does that mean AMD may have 10nm chips before intel? Rumour has it they'll have them by 2016

Won't happen. The entire industry apart from Intel is still on 20nm ish, despite marketing names of the processes as 14/16nm. AMD may get a nose called 10nm, but that will just be true 14nm with 2nd Gen. FinFET.

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No doubt Intel has 10nm chips basically working. However, they likely have yields in the 1 in 1000 range for a celeron class chip, so no way is it anyway near ready for launch

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Fake! No really everyone is struggle with 14/16nm FinFets which have yet to see the daylight in mass production,and that guy announces 10nm mass production in less than 2 years? what?I dont think we get 10nm even if its intel earlier than mid 2018 - early 2019.We gonna be stuck with 14-16nm products for a while imo.

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10nm is said to be the last possible die shrink...

 

so im interested in everything <10nm xD

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10nm is said to be the last possible die shrink...

so im interested in everything <10nm xD

Everything seems impossible until its done ;) under 10mm might be undoable with the making process they use now. Surely they will figure it out later on.

I hope they don't sink with all these lakes....

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Does that mean AMD may have 10nm chips before intel? Rumour has it they'll have them by 2016

nope, thats 14nm

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Fake! No really everyone is struggle with 14/16nm FinFets which have yet to see the daylight in mass production,and that guy announces 10nm mass production in less than 2 years? what?I dont think we get 10nm even if its intel earlier than mid 2018 - early 2019.We gonna be stuck with 14-16nm products for a while imo.

Intel is mass-producing 14nm right now. The U-series is shipping and laptops are moving out. Unlocked Broadwell desktop (and I suspect the M & H-series mobile quad-cores) arrives in Q2, and locked Skylake desktop arrives in Q3 unlocked Skylake is pure speculation btw for those who will go back to that article).

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This still means they will release new CPU eveyr year, right?

Probably.

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Does that mean AMD may have 10nm chips before intel? Rumour has it they'll have them by 2016

I kinda doubt it atm. AMD has been at least a generation behind Intel for a while, not to mention Intel has more money to pour into designing new chips. 

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I think they have that technology already. 

They are squeezing money from everything they can before next manufacturing process.

 

yes they do have it, but they dont have the means to produce it effectively. thats why its not here yet. 

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I guess I'm waiting for Cannonlake then! :) I hope my Inspirion 1545 can hold out...

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I kinda doubt it atm. AMD has been at least a generation behind Intel for a while, not to mention Intel has more money to pour into designing new chips. 

 

That's true, but AMD hasn't been researching any new architectures for 3 years now, which would allow them to invest everything in their next big release.

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-Apple iPad Pro - [5/10]

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That's true, but AMD hasn't been researching any new architectures for 3 years now, which would allow them to invest everything in their next big release.

 

Doesn't matter how much you invest if you can't find anyone to make the nodes for you. Plus Intel probably invests more in a quarter than AMD did in those three years. It's been their problem for a while now... Intel is ahead and has such a massive budget it's hard to catch up.

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Does that mean AMD may have 10nm chips before intel? Rumour has it they'll have them by 2016

It's not possible for them to get ahead of Intel. Intel invests in their own fabs while AMD relies on Samsung or global foundries to build their chips. Right now Intel is selling 14nm chips while the other guys are still trying to get it to work.

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The difficulty in transistor shrinkage is to maintain no current to pass from source to drain when gate is off. This distance is the fab size. here as per article 10nm. So there is a limit to which this shrinkage can be done. So new methods can be done to make it closer. As the shrinkage goes by a new phenomena takes place called quantum tunneling. the power tunnels to source and drain in spite of anything we do. This is supposed to happen at 3 to 4 atom size. The radius of silicon atom is 117.6 pm; so the diameter is 235.2 pm. so 4 to 5 atom size so this will equate to 940.8 pm to 1.1nm. So that will be where the shrinkage hits a stop. Even if somehow the tunneling did not occur the limit will be 235.2 pm. People will say then quantum computing will give way to future. that is not exactly correct. quantum computer is good only for high parallel independent computation. which can be used for deep neural networks, fluid dynamics and other research application. the general processing and algorithm will be extremely slow compared to a classical processor. Intel has already showcased 10nm silicon before commercialization of 14nm @Linus @Slick

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