[UPDATED with a working 60 FPS video] YouTube is getting 48 and 60 FPS support and a tip jar

[ZetZet]

Yeah, my parents laptop with an i3 3217U chokes on that video at 1080p 60. That's a bit sad.

[Hans Power]

Awesome - this will be a huge step towards convincing people that FPS isn't just a number!

 

Edit: Fraps only shows around 35FPS, though - does the framecounter just show the wrong value or is my Phenom II X4 965 just not capable of viewing the Videos in 60FPS?

[werto165]

Awesome - this will be a huge step towards convincing people that FPS isn't just a number!

 

Edit: Fraps only shows around 35FPS, though - does the framecounter just show the wrong value or is my Phenom II X4 965 just not capable of viewing the Videos in 60FPS?

I had a consistent 60 fps when watching it. thats with a med range gpu however.

[zacRupnow]

But we can't see over 24 fps look at movies

 

 

 

 

jk

Yes we can, Its the way light moves from source to lens, Eyes effectively work the same as a camera, but cameras capture in frames, the camera images have a blur from movement. The blur in an image is more or less based on shutter speed of the lens. Movies choose 24 fps because its on average the lowest speed where individual frames are not heavily noticeable. Using a lower framerate means a lower shutter speed and cameras with lower shutter speeds are less expensive, even if not by much it can still make a good difference with the final budget of the film. Distributing the DVD, BluRay, or Digital version of a film in a mass market is also cheaper at a lower framerate. However more and more modern films are are bringing in huge revenue meaning they can spend more; The Hobbit was filmed 60 fps in the final cut, BluRay only though, my sister bought it on iTunes, big mistake, terrible software, (Apple = great build quality, low end hardware, high end price, decent mobile hardware, TERRIBLE SOFTWARE mobile and desktop) anyways, the file was larger the fps was 24. Movies at 40-60 fps are best bought on BluRay and burned to your hard drive.

[zacRupnow]

Awesome - this will be a huge step towards convincing people that FPS isn't just a number!

 

Edit: Fraps only shows around 35FPS, though - does the framecounter just show the wrong value or is my Phenom II X4 965 just not capable of viewing the Videos in 60FPS?

I think that video was more of a prototype, by what I saw and what the article said I thought it to be 48 fps.

[Hans Power]

I had a consistent 60 fps when watching it. thats with a med range gpu however.

 

I have a GTX760 so I don't think it's on the GPU side of things.

Edit: Oh, I see - it's just not working with Firefox, yet. I just installed Chrome and with that it's constantly running at 60FPs.

[zacRupnow]

I just watched that gameplay video. Seems smooth, but boy ... what a mess gameplay wise. And still heavily compressed. I really didn't enjoy watching that.

A good trick is to upscale your videos to 4k, the compression is scaled differently, watching the actual resolution with the 4k upscale looks better. For example a 1080p video looks 'blocky' from compression, take the raw video and upscale to 4k then upload, still watching at 1080p it looks clean. It can still look better at 4k even on a 1080p monitor. The downside is that, at full screen or a large part of the screen, watching at 1440p or 4k on a 1440p or 4k monitor will look 'blocky' and compressed.

[Vitalius]

A good trick is to upscale your videos to 4k, the compression is scaled differently, watching the actual resolution with the 4k upscale looks better. For example a 1080p video looks 'blocky' from compression, take the raw video and upscale to 4k then upload, still watching at 1080p it looks clean. It can still look better at 4k even on a 1080p monitor. The downside is that, at full screen or a large part of the screen, watching at 1440p or 4k on a 1440p or 4k monitor will look 'blocky' and compressed.

Now I understand why Linus uploads his videos in 4K. 

[colonel_mortis]

That's great except that I turned on stats for nerds and although the videos are at 60FPS, my (not weak - see sig) PC was only displaying 30-40 FPS, with the rest being dropped. I am using Firefox and flash (youtube doesn't support 1080p html5 on firefox at the moment) which is probably the cause, but when almost half the frames are being dropped its not good. I look forward to these changes taking effect properly though,

[werto165]

I really don't like the 60fps video it makes me feel motion sick for some reason. However I play games at 60fps(battlefield) which is abit weird, maybe its just cos im not in control of the character.

[Vitalius]

I really don't like the 60fps video it makes me feel motion sick for some reason. However I play games at 60fps(battlefield) which is abit weird, maybe its just cos im not in control of the character.

Some people have strange ways of keeping balance. A friend of mine's wife's balance is tied to her vision, so if she's seeing something she is in control of going in all sorts of directions, she gets motion sickness/loses her balance.

Example: She can't play Bioshock Infinite because of the rail stuff. It just messes with her head. She can however watch her husband play it fine. So she's the opposite of you. 

Just saying, there are some weird things that affect humans.

[Askew]

That video is 30fps for me, it's dropping some.

 

EDIT, switched to chrome HTML5 and I can tell immediately without any stats for nerds needed that this is indeed 60fps.

 

I'm very happy about this because PC gamers now have an advantage not only on their own screens but now to be shown to the world on Youtube, console gameplay is now going to be even more second class.

 

30fps peasants to the dirt, 60fps is the new peng.

[Toxic Tom]

I hope you can disable it. There is no way my internet could handle all those frames.

[Robi_g]

WAN show at 60fps, it will be like sitting in the same room as linus and slick

[tharvey]

If only ubisoft could do that...

[Sauron]

Finally, why did they take so much time to make it happen ffs

[harrynowl]

Shame I don't have the bandwidth for 1080p 30FPS, let alone 60.

 

Maybe one day...

[Xorbot]

I hope you can disable it. There is no way my internet could handle all those frames.

 

 

Shame I don't have the bandwidth for 1080p 30FPS, let alone 60.

 

Maybe one day...

 

Video compression helps in this case.  Although the 60 FPS version will be larger, it won't be 2x the size.  When video gets compressed, it has largely to do with what the previous frame's contents were and how far it is from the last key frame.  So it may not be as bad as you think on your Internets.

[Nineshadow]

Guys,please admire the youtube comments :

[colonel_mortis]

Guys,please admire the youtube comments :

The worrying thing is that people '+1'd it. He's obviously a troll, but the people that +1'd it... It's just not possible to be proud to live on this planet

[Frankz]

Yea i recently noticed some changes when watching 4k vids aswell, before it was ALWAYS laggy with low fps but now its all buttersmooth as it should be

[Nineshadow]

Yea i recently noticed some changes when watching 4k vids aswell, before it was ALWAYS laggy with low fps but now its all buttersmooth as it should be

Uh...that has nothing to do with this.

[colonel_mortis]

Yea i recently noticed some changes when watching 4k vids aswell, before it was ALWAYS laggy with low fps but now its all buttersmooth as it should be

That's likely to be as a result of the switch to the HTML5 video player rather than flash (assuming you're on Chrome, I don't know whether other browsers have changed by default), but it's certainly not the higher frame rate of the video.

[LAwLz]

I hope you can disable it. There is no way my internet could handle all those frames.

Shame I don't have the bandwidth for 1080p 30FPS, let alone 60.

 

Maybe one day...

Youtube has started making some videos available in VP9. Couple that with what Xorbot said (doesn't require double the bandwidth for double the frames) and we might actually end up with 60FPS videos (in VP9) requiring less bandwidth than the current 30FPS videos (in VP8) does.

[Toxic Tom]

Youtube has started making some videos available in VP9. Couple that with what Xorbot said (doesn't require double the bandwidth for double the frames) and we might actually end up with 60FPS videos (in VP9) requiring less bandwidth than the current 30FPS videos (in VP8) does.

 

 

Video compression helps in this case.  Although the 60 FPS version will be larger, it won't be 2x the size.  When video gets compressed, it has largely to do with what the previous frame's contents were and how far it is from the last key frame.  So it may not be as bad as you think on your Internets.

 

Haha try 4mbps! I can't even watch at 1080p reliably.