LTT Official Folding Month VI

[GOTSpectrum]

On 11/1/2023 at 1:47 AM, cbigfoot said:

@Gorgon DANG that's a bit fast lol... @GOTSpectrum do you need to create or can Gorgon?

I can do it 

[GOTSpectrum]

 @Gorgon

[GOTSpectrum]

I left the window open last night, finally got around to getting in here after being out all day and it's a frosty 14C... 

[GOTSpectrum]

1 minute ago, Schnoz said:

I'm sorry, fellow folding freaks. I didn't buy a new GPU.

 

I, uh, instead realized that X99 doesn't have an actual motherboard-enforced memory cap and ordered 512GB in RDIMMs.

 

So...

[podkall]

1 hour ago, Alex Atkin UK said:

If the WU was using more cores than the new value I believe it gets dumped, but it may be using less cores than your new value so can just carry on.

 

Although I'm sure I've had them dumped before when I tried increasing the value, so I wonder if it depends on the WU itself or is just a random glitch?

well it did "lose" some progress, then quickly "caught onto" it, it was like 3% but around 40%ish range

 

and I was looking in task manager at all threads, and they all seem to be no change in utilization, no new cores working, no old cores working more nothing

[will0hlep]

I started up my tablet to get a few more PPD and it was working fine, but After a few workloads it started only using 8 of my 20 threads (I’m guessing it is only using the e-cores). Any ideas how to force it back up to the full compliment?

[will0hlep]

Just now, Schnoz said:

F@H's v7 release is quite old and it significantly predates Alder Lake. Try using the v8 client, perhaps.

If I pause the current WUs and install V8, will the new client be able to continue where V7 left off?

[Alex Atkin UK]

2 minutes ago, will0hlep said:

If I pause the current WUs and install V8, will the new client be able to continue where V7 left off?

No.  But I don't think this is the issue anyway, some WUs just use a different number of threads than others.

[will0hlep]

5 minutes ago, Alex Atkin UK said:

No.  But I don't think this is the issue anyway, some WUs just use a different number of threads than others.

Well that limitation to 8 threads basically renders completing that WU impossible within the time limit.

 

It’s been running for a while now and currently thinks it needs another 6 days to complete. I have less than 5 to the deadline.

 

I think, I’ll give it another hour and a half (until the current GPU task is finished). If after that, the CPU WU still has an expected time that is too long, I’ll uninstall V7 and install V8.

[will0hlep]

Also, I've begun folding on my Primary PC (I didn't like that people were overtaking me ) and it is trying to fold on integrated graphics (slot 1) as well as my dedicated graphics (slot 2) and cpu cores (slot 0). Is that efficent or should I stop the igpu folding and let the CPU folding have another thread?

It seems to be getting more PPD than my CPU is getting per thread.

[AndrewHamOp]

Missed the signup period, but hey I'll still fold for the team anyways. Maybe this will be a good long-term stress test for my new system. Good luck to you all! 

[podkall]

7 minutes ago, will0hlep said:

Also, I've begun folding on my Primary PC

[AndrewHamOp]

Woah now there's some serious utilization, good thing we're going into winter here. I'm thinking about installing the FaH client on my Dad's PC since his GPU is much better than mine. It's been quite a long time since I folded for LTT, and last time I was running practical e-waste so it didn't contribute much. Question for all you veteran folders. Which is better for folding, CPU or GPU? If there's some FAQ doc that I missed please send it, I don't use the forum very often.

 

Edit: Ah also I know it's probably fine, but is that a safe temp for my 7800x3D? I read they can go up to 89C so I set my thermal limit to 85C in the BIOS. I'm running -30 In Curve Optimizer.

[Baha]

33 minutes ago, AndrewHamOp said:

Woah now there's some serious utilization, good thing we're going into winter here. I'm thinking about installing the FaH client on my Dad's PC since his GPU is much better than mine. It's been quite a long time since I folded for LTT, and last time I was running practical e-waste so it didn't contribute much. Question for all you veteran folders. Which is better for folding, CPU or GPU? If there's some FAQ doc that I missed please send it, I don't use the forum very often.

 

Edit: Ah also I know it's probably fine, but is that a safe temp for my 7800x3D? I read they can go up to 89C so I set my thermal limit to 85C in the BIOS. I'm running -30 In Curve Optimizer.

The temperatures here all look perfectly safe to me — they’re more than reasonable, your PC seems pretty well cooled.

Generally speaking, as far as CPU vs GPU goes for consumer hardware, you’re likely to see a better return both in terms of actual points per day and points per watt from a GPU.

[AndrewHamOp]

1 minute ago, Baha said:

The temperatures here all look perfectly safe to me — they’re more than reasonable, your PC seems pretty well cooled.

Generally speaking, as far as CPU vs GPU goes for consumer hardware, you’re likely to see a better return both in terms of actual PPD (Points Per Day) and PPD per watt from a GPU.

Yeah I figured my temps were ok, but it always helps to have a sanity check. I'm running an NH-U12A with a pretty aggressive fan curve.

 

When my Dad gets home from work today I'll ask him about running the FaH client on his PC as well, at least for a few days.

 

One other thing. I sometimes run a Minecraft server on my machine which only needs one or two cores when I've only got one or two people online. Obviously if I was to get on myself I would pause the FaH client but I figure my system can handle both if I tell FaH to only use 14 threads as per the FAQ which I found. However when I get my thread count to 14 it doesn't seem to stop using any threads. Is this normal or is something bugged? I'm using HWinfo64 and task manager to verify. 

[LoneStarr]

Any way to still get in the group? I just learned about this in the last WAN show VOD.

[AndrewHamOp]

5 minutes ago, LoneStarr said:

Any way to still get in the group? I just learned about this in the last WAN show VOD.

Same here, but sadly I don't think so.

[AndrewHamOp]

Time to start folding on my 2 overclocked Raspberry Pis! xD

[Baha]

18 minutes ago, AndrewHamOp said:

One other thing. I sometimes run a Minecraft server on my machine which only needs one or two cores when I've only got one or two people online. Obviously if I was to get on myself I would pause the FaH client but I figure my system can handle both if I tell FaH to only use 14 threads as per the FAQ which I found. However when I get my thread count to 14 it doesn't seem to stop using any threads. Is this normal or is something bugged? I'm using HWinfo64 and task manager to verify. 

Something I would check, in this instance, is to pause folding on specifically the GPU and see if those two threads go down in usage. The process that runs folding on a fast graphics card needs to keep the graphics card fed with information, and that will typically consume two threads.

[Lightwreather]

12 minutes ago, LoneStarr said:

Any way to still get in the group? I just learned about this in the last WAN show VOD.

Unfortunately no. However you are welcome to fold along with us.

And as GOT has previously stated, folding month is annual and you're welcome to join us next November, and/or for the folding sprint which will be something in spring/early summer. 

[AndrewHamOp]

5 minutes ago, Baha said:

Something I would check, in this instance, is to pause folding on specifically the GPU and see if those two threads go down in usage. The process that runs folding on a fast graphics card needs to keep the graphics card fed with information, and that will typically consume two threads.

Alright I just checked that. It seemed to make a bit of a difference but honestly I'll just keep folding at -1 until one of my friends starts complaining that the server tick speed is running slow...hahaha.

[LoneStarr]

5 minutes ago, Lightwreather JfromN said:

Unfortunately no. However you are welcome to fold along with us.

And as GOT has previously stated, folding month is annual and you're welcome to join us next November, and/or for the folding sprint which will be something in spring/early summer. 

That's too bad. Thanks for following up.

[GOTSpectrum]

23 minutes ago, LoneStarr said:

Any way to still get in the group? I just learned about this in the last WAN show VOD.

 

18 minutes ago, AndrewHamOp said:

Same here, but sadly I don't think so.

We did try to get WAN show shout-outs for the 4 weeks preceding the event, but due to one reason or another, we ended up with the shout-out going out at the very last min. We did extend the signup times to as late as we possibly could manage but in all honesty, I felt a little let down by LMG. 

[AndrewHamOp]

1 minute ago, GOTSpectrum said:

 

We did try to get WAN show shout-outs for the 4 weeks preceding the event, but due to one reason or another, we ended up with the shout-out going out at the very last min. We did extend the signup times to as late as we possibly could manage but in all honesty, I felt a little let down by LMG. 

Yeah I thought that was kind of strange. After seeing that last Wan Show VOD I remembered that you guys do this every year, so I'll make sure to remember for next time. In all honestly, the mission itself is enough motivation for me to lend my processing power. My sister had some health problems this past year so I kinda take the FaH mission personally now. I'm spooling up my 2 RPis right now, every little bit counts right? xD

[GOTSpectrum]

 

Too the moon!