Madison reveals experiences working at LMG

[Guest]

Just read the Madison tweets. Absolutely no way LMG can recover from this in my mind. Disgusting.

[jitteryzeitgeist]

Just now, Reclus said:

Abuse is when people get accused publicly and are left with 0 chance of defending themselves over Twitter posts. She needs to speak to the law if the law has been broken. If not then it's just pointless accusations that will cause more harm to her and others.

Yeah I already know about you, buddy.  I know why you're mad.

[Booch121]

Remember in Madisons statement how she talked about being sneaked up on and scared so much, people in her office got mirrors for there desks? Heres the proof of said mirrors existence! Right above the monitors on the left side of the picture.

[jitteryzeitgeist]

Just now, DakotaCx said:

Abuse reporting is statistically increasing year after year. I wouldn't let the internet experts guide your judgment on that. 

It's increased.

 

The amount of abuse victims still eclipses reports.

 

Nothing I said was wrong, you trying to rules-lawyer this point with moronic pedantry nonwithstanding.

[DakotaCx]

Just now, Booch121 said:

Remember in Madisons statement how she talked about being sneaked up on and scared so much, people in her office got mirrors for there desks? Heres the proof of said mirrors existence! Right above the monitors on the left side of the picture.

ok? 

I don't get the point. That's an example of the abuse? 

[AHPanda]

1 minute ago, Booch121 said:

Remember in Madisons statement how she talked about being sneaked up on and scared so much, people in her office got mirrors for there desks? Heres the proof of said mirrors existence! Right above the monitors on the left side of the picture.

Excellent catch!

[lostboy]

Just now, Booch121 said:

Remember in Madisons statement how she talked about being sneaked up on and scared so much, people in her office got mirrors for there desks? Heres the proof of said mirrors existence! Right above the monitors on the left side of the picture.
 

I work in an open concept office. Desk mirrors are extremely common, have been for 20+ years I've been working

[HesCalledTheStig]

Just now, Reclus said:

Abuse is when people get accused publicly and are left with 0 chance of defending themselves over Twitter posts. She needs to speak to the law if the law has been broken. If not then it's just pointless accusations that will cause more harm to her and others.

Thats my issue with this whole thing.  I dont doubt her story because I wasnt there.  But why post it to social media rather than even SEEKING legal help?  I guess I just dont understand the thinking behind it.  I'm not discrediting her claims, I just dont understand the thought process.

[AHPanda]

Just now, DakotaCx said:

ok? 

I don't get the point. That's an example of the abuse? 

Oh buddy...

[0catt]

1 minute ago, Reclus said:

Abuse is when people get accused publicly and are left with 0 chance of defending themselves over Twitter posts. She needs to speak to the law if the law has been broken. If not then it's just pointless accusations that will cause more harm to her and others.

Is it still abuse... Have you ever considered that maybe that "The Law" you mention has costs involved and not everyone has money to get into legal disputes?
It's pointless if it comes out as untrue. So far they retain their importance

[Booch121]

Just now, lostboy said:

I work in an open concept office. Desk mirrors are extremely common, have been for 20+ years I've been working

what's the point of a mirror above your desk specifically angled to be able to see behind you.

[the_real_ch3]

4 minutes ago, HesCalledTheStig said:

I dont know.  There is a chance that they have taken a legal approach given the seriousness of the accusations and were told it would be in their best interest to keep quiet.  

Staying quiet about the substance of the allegations is smart, but acknowledging you are aware of it and are looking into it is almost completely risk free (provided you follow through and look into it)

[William Isted]

5 minutes ago, Reclus said:

Yes. results in nothing.. That's why there was an entire era of "Me too's" and cancellations all over and quite a few people going to jail and quite a few people almost going to jail for stuff they have never done. Get a grip with reality.

Do you recall what lead the "me too" movement? It was that people didn't come forward before this time because authorities and other people either didn't believe them or ignored claims. That's what lead such an influx of allegations to be made once some people had actually been taken seriously.

 

Historically (and near historic at that) it is fair to say "results in nothing" is a pretty accurate issue up to this day for a lot of victims.

[DakotaCx]

Just now, jitteryzeitgeist said:

It's increased.

 

The amount of abuse victims still eclipses reports.

 

Nothing I said was wrong, you trying to rules-lawyer this point with moronic pedantry nonwithstanding.

I like your words.

I agree victims will always eclipse reports for a variety of different reasons. 

However, I wasn't trying to be confrontational with you. I was trying to show some optimism that reporting has improved, which demonstrates progress. 

[Reclus]

1 minute ago, LumpyCrumpet said:

It's quite funny seeing that guy completely failing to see the obvious difference between "posing for a photo while being hugged by someone" and "being groped against your will", and between "having an unprofessional, overly-sexual hostile workplace environment" and "making dirty jokes on your Twitter".

 

That obvious difference is consent. Madison can be as dirty or handsy as she damn well pleases on her time, if she and anyone else involved consents to it.

 

People wonder why sexual assault or workplace harassment victims don't come forward earlier, and then fail to see the connection between that and the "well she made a sex joke once so clearly she must not think it's that bad" or "a man touched her once, so clearly she can't be upset about being sexually assaulted!" Fucking incels, man.

Can you tell a difference between posting on Twitter allegations of abuse and reporting to the police allegations of abuse? One has legal repercussions and people involved are prosecuted. The other one causes nothing but drama and endless speculation. Figure it out on your own which one is which.

[AutumnVolume]

5 minutes ago, jitteryzeitgeist said:

Christ on a cracker what is this incel shit

Is it honestly all that surprising to find a bunch of incels on a tech forum?

[thebakerman]

22 minutes ago, DakotaCx said:

You missed the part where I clarified my rationale as OnlyFans is not just a porn site. Go to their homepage, it's covered with workout influencers, cooking creators, yoga, smoothies, etc. It's marketed toward creators. 

 

It does not matter. You asked someone to manage a profile designated as NSFW “as a joke”, without considering the obvious consequences of this action. Then, surprise surprise, people start sending you NSFW content that you, the coordinator, need to respond to. This is negligent enough as it is, and I feel like it should make the employer liable for some labour law violation.

 

But even if it does not, when you report that you’re uncomfortable and don’t want to be forced to filter through an influx of male genitalia and your concerns get ignored, that’s very comfortably in “hostile work environment” territory.

[Booch121]

1 minute ago, DakotaCx said:

ok? 

I don't get the point. That's an example of the abuse? 

Its proof that she did need a mirror to stop being jump scared, tho there's really no way to prove from this picture she didn't receive hers for months.

[jitteryzeitgeist]

Just now, DakotaCx said:

I like your words.

I agree victims will always eclipse reports for a variety of different reasons. 

However, I wasn't trying to be confrontational with you. I was trying to show some optimism that reporting has improved, which demonstrates progress. 

Sorry, friendo, this subject gets me on edge.  Apologies.

[lostboy]

Just now, AutumnVolume said:

Is it honestly all that surprising to find a bunch of incels on a tech forum?

Considering the only reason she got hired was the insane simping? the mindblowing whiteknighting for Madison was jaw dropping

Its a mistake they'll be paying for for years if they don't handle it. Their silence tells me they have lawyers on it, which they should.

[saintlouisbagels]

2 minutes ago, HesCalledTheStig said:

Thats my issue with this whole thing.  I dont doubt her story because I wasnt there.  But why post it to social media rather than even SEEKING legal help?  I guess I just dont understand the thinking behind it.  I'm not discrediting her claims, I just dont understand the thought process.

Because venting is therapeutic.

Everyone here seems to be American-as-fuck jumping straight to legal help.

 

What's legal going to do? What kind of evidence could you possibly gather for all of these verbal issues?

What kind of defense can Madison get compared to LMG's massive wallets. Not to mentioning re-living the trauma by having to go through the entire process of thoroughly going through everything. And of course the LMG fanboys are going to TORMENT her through the whole process. It's lose-lose-lose.

[jitteryzeitgeist]

Yeah, if there's one thing that's becoming clear it's that the LTT faithful remind me a whole lot of some other cult of personality.

 

They're just missing the red hats.

[starsmine]

2 minutes ago, Reclus said:

Abuse is when people get accused publicly and are left with 0 chance of defending themselves over Twitter posts. She needs to speak to the law if the law has been broken. If not then it's just pointless accusations that will cause more harm to her and others.

You have zero idea how the laws work around this. A toxic workplace enviroment is not illegal, and workplace harassment do not get a positive result in the judicial system. You also have to complications of this being international (she was on a work visa) 

Stop victim blaming, and start talking with, and listening to victims instead of pointing out solutions that are known to not have positive outcomes for them over 90% of the time. 

[jnmaster]

15 minutes ago, 0catt said:

Me "thinking" is fishy doesn't make them less true. We are forgetting that there is a victim here, that until someone on their side shows they are not guilty. 

This isn't about who said who, is about a person, who was mistreated. We don't automatically discard the victim. 

Being silent is still a answer

It’s been a couple hours.. what do you want LMG to say? They have to organize internally and get facts straight. Would you have preferred them saying “we didn’t do it” and leave it to that? Whatever they will do, people will find a way to criticize. They obviously need to contact lawyers, which takes more than a couple of hours.

[Reclus]

2 minutes ago, 0catt said:

Is it still abuse... Have you ever considered that maybe that "The Law" you mention has costs involved and not everyone has money to get into legal disputes?
It's pointless if it comes out as untrue. So far they retain their importance

Are you for real? Criminal reports have 0 cost. ZERO. After that the law investigates on their own - YOU PAY NOTHING!