PlayStation just killed PC VR

[AlexTheGreatish]

On paper the Sony PlayStation VR2 has specs that exceed a top of the line PC VR headset.. for half the price.

 

 

 

[Melano]

Maybe we'll find a way to use it on PC.

[Andy that has problems]

Definitely.

[Gokul_P]

The comparison pc didnt have any rgb thats like 10% of perfomance gone right there. And no io sheild 

[dan3a]

Is the writing team/Linus aware of the BigScreen Beyond? Sounds like Linus' dream headset (minus the fov)

[themrsbusta]

A useless tech win from another useless tech, splendid.

 

Serious, who plays VR for real?

[ToboRobot]

8 minutes ago, dan3a said:

Is the writing team/Linus aware of the BigScreen Beyond? Sounds like Linus' dream headset (minus the fov)

Ships in
Q3 2023

[dan3a]

4 minutes ago, themrsbusta said:

A useless tech win from another useless tech, splendid.

 

Serious, who plays VR for real?

I do.

[themrsbusta]

8 minutes ago, dan3a said:

I do.

Sir, you are the exception of the exception...for 99% of the world is too heavy, too big, requires a big empty space, most of the time can't be used sit down, doesn't work with all games and is so expensive that you will look and think: Why should I buy this instead a better graphics card?

[dan3a]

13 minutes ago, themrsbusta said:

Sir, you are the exception of the exception...for 99% of the world is too heavy, too big, requires a big empty space, most of the time can't be used sit down, doesn't work with all games and is so expensive that you will look and think: Why should I buy this instead a better graphics card?

While the comfort isn't great on my headset, I can still easily pull a 10hr session, my playspace isn't that big (around 1.5m², and around half of it is limited by height), in VRChat I mostly sit, and the greatest thing : my headset was only 200€.

Sounds like a lot of preconceptions

[AndreiArgeanu]

10 minutes ago, themrsbusta said:

Sir, you are the exception of the exception...for 99% of the world is too heavy, too big, requires a big empty space, most of the time can't be used sit down, doesn't work with all games and is so expensive that you will look and think: Why should I buy this instead a better graphics card?

The original PSVR which was much worse than the PSVR2 sold 5 million units as of 31 December 2019, Meta has sold over 20 million units as of recently. Saying the VR is very niche is just plainly disingenous. It hasn't quite reached main stream appeal but it's definitely on it's way there. You also do not represent everyone.

[papajo]

I CAN'T TELL ALEX, I CAN'T TELL...   ][_, ([]) ][_,

[FezBoy]

What gpu did yall put in the VR pc? I've got a quest 1 i use over wifi and i need something more VR capable than my 1060 3gb

[papajo]

13 minutes ago, FezBoy said:

What gpu did yall put in the VR pc? I've got a quest 1 i use over wifi and i need something more VR capable than my 1060 3gb

It is easy to determine

The quest 1 has a resolution of 1400*1600 per eye so in total 2800*3200 that's a little bit higher than 4K 

and on top of that you need the GPU to be able to render at least at 75Hz at that resolution (cuz that's about the refreshrate of quest 1) 

So you need to see at game benchmarks and see which GPUs can play 4K at above ~85ish average FPS . 

BUT VR games are a lot less demanding than AAA 3D games set on high/ultra which is usually what the benchmarks are going to be set at so I suggest to look for a 2kliksphilip video on youtube testing out 4K with weaker settings cause I am sure he is going to have such things cause he is beautifully weird like that. 


Now me without being a VR player so without having tested out GPUs for that just as a gut feeling would say that with a nvidia 2070 or even  better an amd 6800 xt and above you should be fine, but there could be some weaker GPUs that still could run (again since the games on VR are less demanding than the AAA 3d games) just fine maybe a Vega 64 would be the bottom line if not that then a gtx 1080

[themrsbusta]

37 minutes ago, AndreiArgeanu said:

The original PSVR which was much worse than the PSVR2 sold 5 million units as of 31 December 2019, Meta has sold over 20 million units as of recently. Saying the VR is very niche is just plainly disingenous. It hasn't quite reached main stream appeal but it's definitely on it's way there. You also do not represent everyone.

WOW, 5 million!

This is almost 5% of the entire PS4 sales! Almost, because is around 4.2%...

 

No serious, tell me you are joking...

[themrsbusta]

45 minutes ago, dan3a said:

While the comfort isn't great on my headset, I can still easily pull a 10hr session, my playspace isn't that big (around 1.5m², and around half of it is limited by height), in VRChat I mostly sit, and the greatest thing : my headset was only 200€.

Sounds like a lot of preconceptions

"only 200€" you are telling me your headset price is the same difference between buying a 3060 and a 3080? "1.5m²" you know many people live in apartments right?

Exception of exception as I was saying...

[AndreiArgeanu]

5 minutes ago, themrsbusta said:

WOW, 5 million!

This is almost 5% of the entire PS4 sales! Almost, because is around 4.2%...

 

No serious, tell me you are joking...

Just completely ignoring everything else I said I see. That was over 3 years ago. And 5 million units sold isn't no one or niche. I have no idea what's the point you're trying to make. The only thing you're trying to do is project your own preferences and opinions on to other people.

[themrsbusta]

6 minutes ago, AndreiArgeanu said:

Just completely ignoring everything else I said I see. That was over 3 years ago. And 5 million units sold isn't no one or niche. I have no idea what's the point you're trying to make. The only thing you're trying to do is project your own preferences and opinions on to other people.

No, you are ignoring what I said, 5 million is absolutely nothing compared to the 117 million sales of the console, totally niche. So niche that probably Sony loses money every time they sold a VR headset.

The point is: You are hyped by this useless tech and probably in some years don't will even remember what this is, or don't you tell me you are using a 3D TV right now? Doesn't matter is it's good, bad, better than PC VR or worse, this tech is completely useless. Good maybe for simulation that needs a lot of screens, like airplane simulators, anything else is just hype.

[dan3a]

19 minutes ago, themrsbusta said:

"only 200€" you are telling me your headset price is the same difference between buying a 3060 and a 3080? "1.5m²" you know many people live in apartments right?

Exception of exception as I was saying...

Meanwhile people are spending over 200€ to get meaningless cosmetics in games, while I spent them to get a whole new gaming experience.

 

Also, if you think a bit about your floor space management, almost anyone can get at least 1m² freed, though I know some people who play with even less and still have a great experience. Space isn't an issue as long as you're not starting to run into walls like you can see in those viral videos

[dan3a]

15 minutes ago, themrsbusta said:

No, you are ignoring what I said, 5 million is absolutely nothing compared to the 117 million sales of the console, totally niche. So niche that probably Sony loses money every time they sold a VR headset.

The point is: You are hyped by this useless tech and probably in some years don't will even remember what this is, or don't you tell me you are using a 3D TV right now? Doesn't matter is it's good, bad, better than PC VR or worse, this tech is completely useless. Good maybe for simulation that needs a lot of screens, like airplane simulators, anything else is just hype.

VR is just a gimmick after all

[themrsbusta]

Just now, dan3a said:

Meanwhile people are spending over 200€ to get meaningless cosmetics in games, while I spent them to get a whole new gaming experience.

 

Also, if you think a bit about your floor space management, almost anyone can get at least 1m² freed, though I know some people who play with even less and still have a great experience. Space isn't an issue as long as you're not starting to run into walls like you can see in those viral videos

Great! It doesn't mean that 200€ isn't expensive for a accessory.

[dan3a]

5 minutes ago, themrsbusta said:

Great! It doesn't mean that 200€ isn't expensive for a accessory.

The issue is that you're considering it as an accessory, which by definition would just augment your experience, while VR gives a whole other experience, and is then not an accessory.

Unless you've only tried porn on a Google Cardboard, you can't tell me VR is an "accessory".

[themrsbusta]

1 minute ago, dan3a said:

The issue is that you're considering as an accessory, which by definition would just augment your experience, while VR gives a whole other experience, and is then not an accessory.

Unless you've only tried porn on a Google Cardboard, you can't tell me VR is an "accessory".

Oh really, and is essencial to use a computer or console? your PC doesn't even turn on without a VR?

Is an accessory and you are hyped.

[dan3a]

1 minute ago, themrsbusta said:

Oh really, and is essencial to use a computer or console? your PC doesn't even turn on without a VR?

Is an accessory and you are hyped.

You're comparing apples to oranges.

[themrsbusta]

Just now, dan3a said:

You're comparing apples to oranges.

Accessory is anything to "enhance" the normal experience, is not required and is not essential, is an accessory.

If it's not an accessory, sold your TV/Monitor and just uses the VR as it's not necessary anything else, right?