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46 minutes ago, IPD said:

As others noted, not blurry--just pixelated.  I'm one of those people who can see separate colors on colored LED's if I stare at them from an oblique angle (eg. I can see separate red and blue phosphor, not just purple).

 

I firmly maintain that until your PPI surpasses 200, there is room for improvement.  Thus there is an unmitigated need for 8k displays.  Even a 27" @2160p is only 163 ppi.

Ok thank you so now I know it's not blurry or grainy it's the pixels witch are to big that when you go near it you can see the pixels witch is what you said (pixilated) 

 

Also nice writing lol I could not understand half of what your wrote lol ( I am 14) 

 

Btw I am talking about a lcd monitor but it would be the same thing that (1080p is not blurry) just pixels when you go close you can see them easily witch makes it (pixilated). But you can fix this if you sit like 4-5 feet away from the screen

This is a subjective question because sken people think it is fine 

 

But does it look blurry? And how blurry

 

 

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its not blurry, its pixelated

The pixels are about 28 pixels are as long as one centimeter, meaning that they are quite large.

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At normal viewing distances for a computer monitor the pixel density of 1080p on a 32 inch monitor is pretty low, so the image just doesn't look very crisp. For me, 1080p is good up to about 24 inch screens. Above that I'd switch to 1440p. 32/34+ inch 16:9 I'd go 4k.

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12 minutes ago, Helpful Tech Wiard said:

its not blurry, its pixelated

The pixels are about 28 pixels are as long as one centimeter, meaning that they are quite large.

So the quality isn't blurry it's pixilated right?

 

And pixilated meaning like you can see the pixels when you are near the monitor?

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1080p at 32" is a very low PPI(69) which makes the individual pixels distinguishable if you are close to it, so for a TV you are sitting further away from the pixels would not be distinguishable.  but for a monitor you're sitting close to it would not look that sharp even with aggressive anti aliasing. Personally, I would not want anything less than 90+ PPI for a monitor.
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1080p at 24" would be the same PPI as 1440p at 32":

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2 minutes ago, Fredrikmikael said:

1080p at 32" is a very low PPI(69) which makes the individual pixels distinguishable if you are close to it, so for a TV you are sitting further away from the pixels would not be distinguishable.  but for a monitor you're sitting close to it would not look that sharp even with aggressive anti aliasing. Personally, I always strive for at least 90+ PPI for a monitor.
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1080p at 24" would be the same PPI as 1440p at 32":

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So the issue is not blurry ness it's the pixels being to big?

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4 minutes ago, coollincolnboi said:

So the issue is not blurry ness it's the pixels being to big?

Pretty much. I guess you could describe the picture as "blurry" as a result of the low pixel count, but generally blurriness is more a result of high pixel response times which is noticeable on moving objects on the screen.

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28 minutes ago, Fredrikmikael said:

Pretty much. I guess you could describe the picture as "blurry" as a result of the low pixel count, but generally blurriness is more a result of high pixel response times which is noticeable on moving objects on the screen.

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I don't think the picture gets blurry on a 32inch 1080p I think its the pixels you can see easily do you agree?

 

Because someone else commented it's not blurry it's the pixels are big

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That would be horrendous. I can't even use a 27" 1080p monitor without getting headaches.

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To me 1080p looks soft focus.

For 1080p I would go with TV technology. 1080p looks good on my LG OLED and IPS TV.  Even my 32" 1440p monitor looks pixilated compeered to the TVs.

 

My OLED scaled this 1080p screen to 4k and I put it beside the native 4k version and this is what I got. 

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9 minutes ago, jones177 said:

My OLED scaled this 1080p screen to 4k and I put it beside the native 4k version and this is what I got.

Not quite the same as native 1080p. When you upscale 1080p on a 4K screen it'll look blurry because the screen interpolates the pixels. If you want a better comparison, you need to upscale with the GPU and select integer scaling, so it doesn't interpolate and repeat pixels instead.

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2 hours ago, coollincolnboi said:

This is a subjective question because sken people think it is fine 

 

But does it look blurry? And how blurry

 

 

Really depends on the context. If it's from a normal computer monitor viewing distance, I can easily start making out the individual pixels even at 27" which is why 24" is my maximum for 1080P when used on a desk. At 27" you should really start looking into a 1440P display.

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2 hours ago, coollincolnboi said:

I don't think the picture gets blurry on a 32inch 1080p I think its the pixels you can see easily do you agree?

 

Because someone else commented it's not blurry it's the pixels are big

 

Correct, the individual pixels gets too big.

You are stretching the pixels out to fill the big screen space.

 

Exaggerating a but...

1440p on 32" vs 1080p on 32"

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I too recommend the 24" or under for 1080p

Anything above 24" go 1440p (or 4K if you really want).

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4 hours ago, coollincolnboi said:

So the issue is not blurry ness it's the pixels being to big?

Yep, feels a bit like looking at a mosaic, and while you have a big screen you don't have much "screen space" to put stuff next to each other so you'll mostly be looking at a single fullscreened window.

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5 hours ago, coollincolnboi said:

This is a subjective question because sken people think it is fine 

 

But does it look blurry? And how blurry

 

 

i used a 32inch 1080p tv as a 2ndary monitor about 10-12years ago, to this day i remember seeing the blocks of pixels, and once i saw it it's hard to unsee 😅

 

I don't exactly hate it, but i definitely remember what the grid looks like

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3 hours ago, -rascal- said:

 

Correct, the individual pixels gets too big.

You are stretching the pixels out to fill the big screen space.

 

Exaggerating a but...

1440p on 32" vs 1080p on 32"

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I too recommend the 24" or under for 1080p

Anything above 24" go 1440p (or 4K if you really want).

My friend has a 32 inch 1080p and it doesn't look blurry as that

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6 hours ago, Helpful Tech Wiard said:

its not blurry, its pixelated

The pixels are about 28 pixels are as long as one centimeter, meaning that they are quite large.

 

3 hours ago, -rascal- said:

 

Correct, the individual pixels gets too big.

You are stretching the pixels out to fill the big screen space.

 

Exaggerating a but...

1440p on 32" vs 1080p on 32"

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I too recommend the 24" or under for 1080p

Anything above 24" go 1440p (or 4K if you really want).

The top comment said it's not blurry lol I am going does anyone want to help me here lol 

 

I think the top comment is more accurate because when I went to my friends house he had a 32inch 1080p monitor and it did not look blurry just if you go really near it you can see pixels

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Bah, I hate 24" 1080p let alone higher size.

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7 hours ago, Eigenvektor said:

Not quite the same as native 1080p. When you upscale 1080p on a 4K screen it'll look blurry because the screen interpolates the pixels. If you want a better comparison, you need to upscale with the GPU and select integer scaling, so it doesn't interpolate and repeat pixels instead.

My point is that it looks better.

 

I only bench at 1080p and on my 1440p and 4k monitors it dose not look good but on the TVs it looks great even at 55".

 

I am also not far away from the screens. I use 55" OLEDs as gaming monitors on 30" deep tables.

 

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Very much depends on the use case.

 

If ur sitting at a desk looking at a 32" screen just like u would a 24" screen, then ur likely to notice the grainy image due to the pixel density.

 

however if ur sitting further away you may not notice it as much. For example a 42" 1080p TV from 4-5' away wont look bad due to the PPI, but would still look bad  (vs 4k) when rendering at 1080p due to the aliasing present.

 

That said, running games at 1080p at any screen size is going to look rather aliased without good quality AA (which is rarely implemented nowadays) or running a DSR/SuperSampling or otherwise downsampling from a higher resolution.

 

Blurriness of 1080p on a larger screen is usually attributed to Anti Aliasing or Upscaling techniques being used. Without either there shouldnt be any soft focus / blurriness, but rather crisp obvious jaggies (aliasing) from the rendering resolution and pixilation from the low PPI.

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11 hours ago, xg32 said:

i used a 32inch 1080p tv as a 2ndary monitor about 10-12years ago, to this day i remember seeing the blocks of pixels, and once i saw it it's hard to unsee 😅

 

I don't exactly hate it, but i definitely remember what the grid looks like

i have a 31.5 inch 1080p monitor i don't see any blurriness or graininess but i do see pixels when i got to close

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11 hours ago, coollincolnboi said:

 

The top comment said it's not blurry lol I am going does anyone want to help me here lol 

 

I think the top comment is more accurate because when I went to my friends house he had a 32inch 1080p monitor and it did not look blurry just if you go really near it you can see pixels

 

But that's the thing.

For TV's you are sitting on the couch or some distance away.

I have 1080p 46" Sony TV, and I sit 10 ~ 12 ft away...and it's not bad.

For a monitor, you are  typically 2 ~ 3 ft away.

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Just now, -rascal- said:

 

But that's the thing.

For TV's you are sitting on the couch or some distance away.

I have 1080p 46" Sony TV, and I sit 10 ~ 12 ft away...and it's not bad.

For a monitor, you are  typically 2 ~ 3 ft away.

oh

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I used a 32" monitor with 1440p resolution for three years and I could already see the pixels even at 93 PPI.

But 32" @ 1440p is usable, at least, it's not that annoying.

At 1080p it would look too much like everything was Minecraft.

 

Now I'm using 4K at 32" and tbh it feels like overkill. There's way too much pixel density, you have to scale up in many applications.

You probably need at least something between 34"-40" to reach an optimal viewing experience for 4K.

32" needs an in-between resolution, something like 3K.

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3 hours ago, TudorF said:

I used a 32" monitor with 1440p resolution for three years and I could already see the pixels even at 93 PPI.

But 32" @ 1440p is usable, at least, it's not that annoying.

At 1080p it would look too much like everything was Minecraft.

 

Now I'm using 4K at 32" and tbh it feels like overkill. There's way too much pixel density, you have to scale up in many applications.

You probably need at least something between 34"-40" to reach an optimal viewing experience for 4K.

32" needs an in-between resolution, something like 3K.

What do you mean it will look like Minecraft?

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