27" or 32" Display 1440p

[OGKRG]

24" is out of the question, I really want to go 27" minimum, but this time around go 1440p not 1080p, even if I play a game in 1080p, I want to be able to have 1040p native. 144 or 165 refresh rate preferably. I did however see this gem LG 32GN600-B 31.5" QHD 2560 x 1440 (2K) 165 Hz HDMI, DisplayPort, Headphone Out FreeSync Premium (AMD Adaptive Sync) Gaming Monitor - Newegg.com and it looks interesting. I've played on a 32" TV before when I had to use it with my PC and didn't mind it at all, ya it's a little big, but I have bad eyes and tend to sit the monitor really close, so maybe having the monitor a little bigger and sitting back further might be better. I play highly competitive in games, but also like to enjoy a good experience. For example I'd rather feel really immersed in something like Battlefield 2042 on a 27"/32" than a tiny 24". It's like same perspective, I'd rather play racing games or something casual on my 70" 4K TV vs a 32" TV. What does everyone play on? But again I'm not going 24".

[dizmo]

Are you going 1440p to get better graphics? It's not going to happen at 32". You basically have the same pixel density of a 24" 1080p monitor at that point. I have an ultrawide and I'll never buy anything else.

 

[IPD]

There's a giant lie out there that anything over 32"-37" is "too big" for a monitor.  Those are old wives' tales propagated by know-nothings.

 

My eyes are about 24" from a 40" curved monitor, and everything I know from before switching to a 40"....is a lie.  Even when I play FPS's on it, my eyes are probably a max of 36" away.  (I sit a bit closer when I'm reading text/typing).

 

And this is why I refuse to go lower than 4k.  Pixel density would be abysmal.

[DigitalGoat]

22 minutes ago, OGKRG said:

24" is out of the question, I really want to go 27" minimum, but this time around go 1440p not 1080p, even if I play a game in 1080p, I want to be able to have 1040p native. 144 or 165 refresh rate preferably. I did however see this gem LG 32GN600-B 31.5" QHD 2560 x 1440 (2K) 165 Hz HDMI, DisplayPort, Headphone Out FreeSync Premium (AMD Adaptive Sync) Gaming Monitor - Newegg.com and it looks interesting. I've played on a 32" TV before when I had to use it with my PC and didn't mind it at all, ya it's a little big, but I have bad eyes and tend to sit the monitor really close, so maybe having the monitor a little bigger and sitting back further might be better. I play highly competitive in games, but also like to enjoy a good experience. For example I'd rather feel really immersed in something like Battlefield 2042 on a 27"/32" than a tiny 24". It's like same perspective, I'd rather play racing games or something casual on my 70" 4K TV vs a 32" TV. What does everyone play on? But again I'm not going 24".

I use the Gigabyte version of that LG panel, the G32QC, absolutely fine for someone who sits way too close to a screen, G-Sync works with it as well, I can't see pixels unless I get to within about 2". Text is pin sharp at Windows default size and at 100% Windows scaling, most games benefit from not needing to use sharpening or high anti aliasing in graphics options, would definitely recommend. Techtesters did a review of the Gigabyte display and were impressed with it overall, they have a lot of monitor reviews in great detail, worth checking the YouTube site before committing or give Rtings a look.  

[xg32]

32inch panels are in general worse than 27inch atm, i'd always go 27inch for 1440p.

 

The question then becomes 1440p vs 4k. gpu horsepower, pixel density, panel quality, budget for both the gpu and the monitor, dlss quality, console and movie resolution etc.

 

but, to each his own, i prioritize pixel density and color gamut, and i'd much rather have a m27q or 27gl83A for 300usd

[OGKRG]

Thanks everyone. 24" is just painful to look at, I had it on a moveable arm also, and had the screen pretty close to me, when I had my Sceptre 144Hz, but the size of the screen was to small still and my eyes tend to wanna look past the screen. Being a competitive gamer I understand moving eyes is quicker than moving head, but I still wanna feel like I am apart of the screen and not a person looking at a screen, I know that sounds weird, but when I had my 27" Acer, I felt so immersed and I felt like I was in the game and nothing around me existed, it was amazing. 

[xg32]

1 hour ago, OGKRG said:

Thanks everyone. 24" is just painful to look at, I had it on a moveable arm also, and had the screen pretty close to me, when I had my Sceptre 144Hz, but the size of the screen was to small still and my eyes tend to wanna look past the screen. Being a competitive gamer I understand moving eyes is quicker than moving head, but I still wanna feel like I am apart of the screen and not a person looking at a screen, I know that sounds weird, but when I had my 27" Acer, I felt so immersed and I felt like I was in the game and nothing around me existed, it was amazing. 

u'd be an ultrawide fan lol

[OGKRG]

3 minutes ago, xg32 said:

u'd be an ultrawide fan lol

Show me some examples! I don't think I've ever looked into ultra wide before

[OGKRG]

5 minutes ago, xg32 said:

u'd be an ultrawide fan lol

Oh crap this looks cool and it's only $360 but 4ms might mess with my placebo of response time lol 

 

SAMSUNG 34-Inch SJ55W Ultrawide Gaming Monitor (LS34J550WQNXZA) – 75Hz Refresh, WQHD Computer Monitor, 3440 x 1440p Resolution, 4ms Response, FreeSync, Split Screen, HDMI, Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07FBS36W2/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_fabc_7Q7K41QR4YHEST9D3GYK

[xg32]

10 minutes ago, OGKRG said:

Show me some examples! I don't think I've ever looked into ultra wide before

they are quite expensive so i'd recommend seeing them in person first, if you can test the monitor before buying it then look at the g7 for 650usd (quality control issues)

 

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1603051-REG/samsung_lc27g77tqsnxza_27_curved_hdr_wqhd.html/?ap=y&ap=y&smp=y&smp=y&lsft=BI%3A514&gclid=Cj0KCQjw_fiLBhDOARIsAF4khR11ko5RVb7HqVFRQm01ZqhKlunzVRcTt7uWiTLLflJm7MjTfwt6MoQaAktBEALw_wcB 

 

then for 1k there's the 34gn850b, ips curved

 

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1559233-REG/lg_34gn850_b_34_21_9_ultrawide_qhd.html

 

for 2k theres the pg35vq, true hdr uw, pretty close to a perfect monitor for some, ips with these specs probably isn't possible atm and would cost 5-8k

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1511615-REG/asus_pg35vq_35_rog_swift_ultra_wide.html

 

9 minutes ago, OGKRG said:

Oh crap this looks cool and it's only $360 but 4ms might mess with my placebo of response time lol 

 

SAMSUNG 34-Inch SJ55W Ultrawide Gaming Monitor (LS34J550WQNXZA) – 75Hz Refresh, WQHD Computer Monitor, 3440 x 1440p Resolution, 4ms Response, FreeSync, Split Screen, HDMI, Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07FBS36W2/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_fabc_7Q7K41QR4YHEST9D3GYK

it's an option, but you'd be giving up image quality for uw at that pricepoint.

[IPD]

Ultrawide says "I hate vertical display area. 

[Stahlmann]

On 10/31/2021 at 7:33 PM, xg32 said:

for 2k theres the pg35vq, true hdr uw, pretty close to a perfect monitor for some, ips with these specs probably isn't possible atm and would cost 5-8k

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1511615-REG/asus_pg35vq_35_rog_swift_ultra_wide.html

And IPS would likely be worse for what this monitor is meant to do. VA has repediately shown to hold up better combined with a FALD backlight. The higher native contrast helps a lot with blooming.

 

On 11/1/2021 at 12:01 AM, IPD said:

Ultrawide says "I hate vertical display area. 

Not really. 34" 3440x1440 ultrawides are basically just a 27" 2560x1440 with some extra pixels on the sides. It really helps with immersion and productivity without being overly hard to drive. When you get into 32:9 it gets ridiculous imo.

[OGKRG]

6 hours ago, Stahlmann said:

And IPS would likely be worse for what this monitor is meant to do. VA has repediately shown to hold up better combined with a FALD backlight. The higher native contrast helps a lot with blooming.

 

Not really. 34" 3440x1440 ultrawides are basically just a 27" 2560x1440 with some extra pixels on the sides. It really helps with immersion and productivity without being overly hard to drive. When you get into 32:9 it gets ridiculous imo.

You think this is a good deal? I really do like Acer's products for price for performance. I got to plat in Apex and Valorant on a 144hz 27" Acer so maybe I'm just placebo. 

 

He wants $200, brand new is $400-$500

32" 1440p 165hz definitely fits the criteria. I'ma see if I can snag it for $150-$180 tho. 

[Stahlmann]

9 minutes ago, OGKRG said:

You think this is a good deal? I really do like Acer's products for price for performance. I got to plat in Apex and Valorant on a 144hz 27" Acer so maybe I'm just placebo. 

 

He wants $200, brand new is $400-$500

32" 1440p 165hz definitely fits the criteria. I'ma see if I can snag it for $150-$180 tho. 

32" Acer Curved Gaming Monitor doesn't say much. Like everyone, Acer also has good and bad products. I'll need some more information before i can judge the display.

[OGKRG]

4 minutes ago, Stahlmann said:

32" Acer Curved Gaming Monitor doesn't say much. Like everyone, Acer also has good and bad products. I'll need some more information before i can judge the display.

Acer XZ322QU

Pbmiiphx

[Stahlmann]

2 hours ago, OGKRG said:

Acer XZ322QU

Pbmiiphx

Looks like your typical budget VA monitor. That's to say i'm not a fan.

 

I'm a strong believer or buying a good monitor now so it'll last longer. And since you play "highly competitive games" i'd rather take a bit more money and buy a decent IPS monitor. Then again, 32" monitors are generally slower, so going with a good 27" option would be my recommendation.

 

Something like the MSI MAG 274QRF-QD, or the Gigabyte M27Q as a more budget-ish option.

[OGKRG]

9 minutes ago, Stahlmann said:

Looks like your typical budget VA monitor. That's to say i'm not a fan.

 

I'm a strong believer or buying a good monitor now so it'll last longer. And since you play "highly competitive games" i'd rather take a bit more money and buy a decent IPS monitor. Then again, 32" monitors are generally slower, so going with a good 27" option would be my recommendation.

 

Something like the MSI MAG 274QRF-QD, or the Gigabyte M27Q as a more budget-ish option.

Thank you for the information. So I am definitely the odd ball out when it comes to gaming competitively, because all the pros play on 240Hz + 1080p 24" I play on 27", but I mean would I ever play on a 24"... Sure. I have never played a game in my life on 1440p and I do wanna see how it feels and what it looks like but for the sake of consistency I'll prob still play Apex, Valorant and Overwatch on 1080p. I'm trying to wrap my head around all of this and not try and be to overwhelming. If I never played on a 24" and 27" 144Hz this would be more confusing but I have that experience so I'm trying to decide where to go from there that makes sense for myself and also what I do. 

[ewitte]

On 10/30/2021 at 11:39 PM, IPD said:

There's a giant lie out there that anything over 32"-37" is "too big" for a monitor.  Those are old wives' tales propagated by know-nothings.

 

My eyes are about 24" from a 40" curved monitor, and everything I know from before switching to a 40"....is a lie.  Even when I play FPS's on it, my eyes are probably a max of 36" away.  (I sit a bit closer when I'm reading text/typing).

 

And this is why I refuse to go lower than 4k.  Pixel density would be abysmal.

It all depends on eyes and distance.  UW monitor size is a bit different then 16:9 screens as well.  Curved screens change things a bit too.

[IPD]

Curved changes everything, that's what many fail to understand.  Perhaps it's because they are using smaller size panels.  IDK.  As I point out to virtually everyone though--nobody has ever made a multiple-monitor setup and had all their screens perfectly parallel to each other.  That's because our eyeballs are curved and we (subconsciously) want everything on display to be equidistant.  A good curved display will look like a flat panel--so the r-value should change based on panel size, imho.

[Stahlmann]

10 hours ago, IPD said:

Curved changes everything, that's what many fail to understand.  Perhaps it's because they are using smaller size panels.  IDK.  As I point out to virtually everyone though--nobody has ever made a multiple-monitor setup and had all their screens perfectly parallel to each other.  That's because our eyeballs are curved and we (subconsciously) want everything on display to be equidistant.  A good curved display will look like a flat panel--so the r-value should change based on panel size, imho.

That is true for very wide setups, but any curve is too much on a single 16:9 monitor. Samsungs whole "same curveature as your eyeballs" is complete bullshit. I sat in front of a G7 and it just looked completely warped and ridiculous.

[Mihle]

Don't go any bigger than 27" for 1440p. (Or and 1440p ultrawide, not any taller).

 

I am not competitive, I have a 4k 60hz 32", and I like it, would personally have that over an ultrawide because the extra height. 

 

Next time I buy a monitor is probably going to be when a good 32" 4k 120/144hz monitor exists without costing a ton.

[IPD]

2 hours ago, Stahlmann said:

That is true for very wide setups, but any curve is too much on a single 16:9 monitor. Samsungs whole "same curveature as your eyeballs" is complete bullshit. I sat in front of a G7 and it just looked completely warped and ridiculous.

You need to try a monitor with a more gentle curve.  like a 3000r (my AOC).  or even a 2500r (Dell Ultrasharp U4021QW).  1000r is too curved for anything other than FPS gaming, imho.

[Stahlmann]

20 minutes ago, IPD said:

You need to try a monitor with a more gentle curve.  like a 3000r (my AOC).  or even a 2500r (Dell Ultrasharp U4021QW).  1000r is too curved for anything other than FPS gaming, imho.

I'm currently using a PG35VQ that has a 1800R curve. For my ultrawide i like the curve, but in my opinion a curve doesn't really offer any real benefits for standard 16:9 monitors. Even with my 55" OLED TV i'd hate if it would be curved. And i'm sitting pretty much right in front of it.

[IPD]

40", 3000r, 16:9.  Looks like a flat panel from a user perspective in front of it.  Perfect.